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Okay... I would completely agree with all of you except for the fact that His Sires bloodline has been in my family for 10 generations and I have the best Male. The female came from Canada and was not Muellers bloodline. She made the deal. I am not looking to breed pet quality animals to sell to people. I just want one pup from my dog. Any ideas?
The bloodline did NOT come from Judy Mueller. She wanted it that is how this deal was made. Came from Germany. Nevermind.... Just disregard my post people.
Those bloodlines came from Germany 10 generations ago. The german bloodlines would be pretty watered down by now. Anything farther back the grandparents doesn't really count so much in the grand scheme of things when breeding or bragging anyway.

I have to wonder how many dobermans you are responsible for in Washington with just your 10 generations of breeding. Did you only breed the one litter for one to keep??? Somehow I don't think so...hope you tell me I am wrong.

FYI you will find no support for breeding a non titled doberman on this forum but I wish you would stay and read and find out why we are so adamant about our stand.

You could start here:
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I have never bred any dogs. I never claimed to be a breeder. And I am surely not bragging about anything. I did NOT do the deal with Judy Mueller, I just was asking if anyone knew the best way to get the papers I needed from her and at this point am certain that it will never happen... the deal that was made with her was over 7 years ago. I think she is a horrible breeder!! I did have the idea of wanting another puppy from my male eventually but stand corrected. And just to be clear it was my Grandfather who did the breeding who has passed. I do know they were not sold to the public and were working dogs. I am sorry if I mislead all of you in thinking I wanted to be a backyard breeder. I am glad to see how many people care so much about this wonderful breed. I grew up all my life with these dogs and they are amazing! I have several family members and friens that wanted a puppy- they would have been accounted for... But now I think I will have to send them to one you.
 
I have never bred any dogs. I never claimed to be a breeder. And I am surely not bragging about anything. I did NOT do the deal with Judy Mueller, I just was asking if anyone knew the best way to get the papers I needed from her and at this point am certain that it will never happen... the deal that was made with her was over 7 years ago. I think she is a horrible breeder!! I did have the idea of wanting another puppy from my male eventually but stand corrected. And just to be clear it was my Grandfather who did the breeding who has passed. I do know they were not sold to the public and were working dogs. I am sorry if I mislead all of you in thinking I wanted to be a backyard breeder. I am glad to see how many people care so much about this wonderful breed. I grew up all my life with these dogs and they are amazing! I have several family members and friens that wanted a puppy- they would have been accounted for... But now I think I will have to send them to one you.
Thank you for this explanation...there is nothing better than being wrong about someone's bybing background.
 
I don't usually chime in on threads like these but if you're in the Washington/Oregon part of the country, that area is like the doberman capital and many of the best come from there.

Why would anyone w/more than 1/2 a brain try for anything less when there are so many beautiful dogs from that part of the U.S.

You'd only be selling dogs to completely clueless people who didn't do their homework, and who wants homes like that for their puppies? Gah.
 
I have never bred any dogs. I never claimed to be a breeder. And I am surely not bragging about anything. I did NOT do the deal with Judy Mueller, I just was asking if anyone knew the best way to get the papers I needed from her and at this point am certain that it will never happen... the deal that was made with her was over 7 years ago. I think she is a horrible breeder!! I did have the idea of wanting another puppy from my male eventually but stand corrected. And just to be clear it was my Grandfather who did the breeding who has passed. I do know they were not sold to the public and were working dogs. I am sorry if I mislead all of you in thinking I wanted to be a backyard breeder. I am glad to see how many people care so much about this wonderful breed. I grew up all my life with these dogs and they are amazing! I have several family members and friens that wanted a puppy- they would have been accounted for... But now I think I will have to send them to one you.
I was not going to say anything, but I need to add that it is real refreshing to see someone take in what people are saying and take it to heart. It is a real rarity, many people would just tell people to F$#$ off. Send me a PM, I live in WA state and am into working dogs.
 
This whole post is unbelievable! Take the puppy to the member that offered to help you and have the dog neutered.

Crops should not be painful and pain meds are usually given just to make sure. They heal in about a week but aren't posted until then. Sticks from a tree....how cruel! We put them on cups so that there aren't infections. Just unreal this could even happen! Poor puppy.

I hate to say it but doing research before you buy is so important. When you don't, you encourage more of the same. Take the help that was offered and don't go there again. Paying them money is how this breeder continues and the reason they exist.
 
This person, in Puyallup, WA, is a horrible breeder of Dobermans and Rottweilers and is selling dogs on Craigslist.
As long as people buy, she will stay in business.

This thread is pretty old, BTW. Judy Mueller is old news as well. She has been in business for a very, very long time. Over 30 years, at least. That's a lot of dogs coming from her place.
 
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