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Okay... I would completely agree with all of you except for the fact that His Sires bloodline has been in my family for 10 generations and I have the best Male. The female came from Canada and was not Muellers bloodline. She made the deal. I am not looking to breed pet quality animals to sell to people. I just want one pup from my dog. Any ideas?
 
I have been trying to contact this woman for a year now. My Mother bought a female from her and made a deal on her first litter to give Judy two puppies of her choice. My Mother had the Sire that Judy wanted the bloodine from. My Mother held up on her end of the deal and gave her the two puppies- Which in turn one died from the ear cropping experience. The reason I am posting is she has ignored our phone calls and refused to give my Mother the papers on the Female She got from the breeder- I have a Male from these two and he is wonderful but I need the papers so I can breed him. I just want to keep his bloodline going... Is there anything I can do? Can anyone help?
Who's "bloodline"? Judy Muellers? SHE HAS NO BLOODLINE. Her dogs are a random mix of pedigrees from whomever she can get a dog from. MANY are actually doberman rottweiler mixes.

This woman is a complete shyster and puppy miller and has been screwing the public for at least 30 years that I know of.

She will give you "papers"......if you bug her enough but I bet money they are just random and don't actually belong to the dog she says they do.

Do all of us in Washington a favor and neuter your dog.
 
Another vote for neuter. If you want another lovable, beautiful Doberman in your life, why not adopt a 6-year-old black female I know who lost her home when her owner's house burned down? He hasn't been able to find a rental that will allow a Doberman and time is running out for this girl.

Doberman rescues in this area are full-to-bursting and no foster homes are available. This lovely, loving, protective DoberGirl may soon end up dead because unethical breeders are flooding the market with more mediocre-quality Dobes than there are responsible homes for.

I thank you in advance on behalf of all homeless Dobermans for spaying and neutering your Dobes.:wavey:
 
Okay... I would completely agree with all of you except for the fact that His Sires bloodline has been in my family for 10 generations and I have the best Male. The female came from Canada and was not Muellers bloodline. She made the deal. I am not looking to breed pet quality animals to sell to people. I just want one pup from my dog. Any ideas?
Neuter and try a new "bloodline". Some traditions are meant to be broken....

More than likely you'd get more than one puppy if you bred this guy. Then what would you do with the other puppies?

So many people on this forum have had dogs from different breeders (reputable breeders), rescues, etc. and have loved every single one of their dogs.

Don't support this woman, who has obviously screwed you and your family over along with other people! You don't want to support that, I'm sure.
 
Okay... I would completely agree with all of you except for the fact that His Sires bloodline has been in my family for 10 generations and I have the best Male. The female came from Canada and was not Muellers bloodline. She made the deal. I am not looking to breed pet quality animals to sell to people. I just want one pup from my dog. Any ideas?
LOL Sue her.

Good luck though.....my guess is even if you get a judgement she will dissapear OR you will find out the has no "papers" to begin with.

Many before you have tried and failed. Good luck.
 
If your breeding to have one pup from the litter what will be done with the other pups? Do you health test? What does your dog have to offer to the breed? Show? obedience? any working titles? Breeding a dog for one pup doesn't make sense, you say you don't want to breed for "pet" owners but what will become of the rest of the litter?
 
The bloodline did NOT come from Judy Mueller. She wanted it that is how this deal was made. Came from Germany. Nevermind.... Just disregard my post people.
I got that.

But I have to ask how you got involved with Judy in the first place. She always seems to sucker people and get new dogs....then the trouble starts.

Like I said good luck getting the papers. My bet is you won't.
 
The bloodline did NOT come from Judy Mueller. She wanted it that is how this deal was made. Came from Germany. Nevermind.... Just disregard my post people.
There are several long established reputable breeder’s already in the PNW with proven --titled and health tested--Euro lines as I‘ve owned a couple of wonderful Euro bred dogs from two of them. Those folks would be on the United Doberman Club list.

Just because they are Euro does not make them breed worthy in the least. Greatness in a dog doesn’t come from the country they originated in as there is good and bad from everywhere. Again, neuter your dog.
 
Wow such judgement with the limited information I submitted. Thank you everyone. Starlaine thanks for being nice about it. I will take all your opionions into consideration and don't worry I won't add to the "overpopulation of dobermans" with insuperior breeding. Geese!
 
I don't expect to actually change your views, but I'm still going to throw this out there for anyone might be reading.


I've met a lot of people with Dobermans who are so in love with their dogs, they feel like they're really lucky to get the most perfect dog for them- and they go to great lengths to get dogs from the same bloodline or even out of their own dog by breeding. Of course these people continue to get amazing dogs that are perfect for them, so they continue under the impression that only by going to that one breeder they'll get these perfect dogs... but it is Dobermans they're breeding, isn't it? THATS why the dogs they produce are perfect- not because of that magical bloodline!

What I'm saying is, this is an AMAZING breed! The whole breed, not just one bloodline! The joy you've found isn't of owning a dog from Altobello, Cambria, Black Shadow or wherever your dog could possibly be from! You've found the joy of owning a Doberman, and I think maybe you'd be surprised by how wonderful this whole breed is, regardless of bloodlines.
 
Wow such judgement with the limited information I submitted. Thank you everyone. Starlaine thanks for being nice about it. I will take all your opionions into consideration and don't worry I won't add to the "overpopulation of dobermans" with insuperior breeding. Geese!
Oy... I think the word you were looking for would be "inferior".
 
Wow such judgement with the limited information I submitted. Thank you everyone. Starlaine thanks for being nice about it. I will take all your opionions into consideration and don't worry I won't add to the "overpopulation of dobermans" with insuperior breeding. Geese!
Due respect, you're brand new here, and you come on first thing talking about an association and breeding arrangements with a very disreputable person.

At that point, the burden of proof is sort of naturally on you, to demonstrate that your male is a breeding-worthy animal.

Post his pedigree--maybe you will change folks' minds.

Post his titles and his health test results, while you're at it.

All that would go a long way to earning you some credibility.
 
Wow such judgement with the limited information I submitted. Thank you everyone. Starlaine thanks for being nice about it. I will take all your opionions into consideration and don't worry I won't add to the "overpopulation of dobermans" with insuperior breeding. Geese!
....another thing.....take a nice read again of the original gist of this thread from the OP, and you will understand some of the strong statements from everyone here.

If you have "10 generations" behind your dog, how did you get messed up with Judy Mueller? Her dogs are pretty bad looking these days mostly because from what I have seen they are rott/dobe crosses as I mentioned before.

I have been to arbitration to testify against her on two occasions in cases where buyers either wanted money back because they got a sick dog or they never got the papers they were promised.

She is despicable if you ask me.
 
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