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WHy do you crop the ears?

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#1 ·
Why do you crop the beautiful silky soft ears?
 
#4 ·
I am not looking for a debate, Burns... I am looking for a reason.
As a new member I have some issues with navigation here (not easy). Maybe you can help to find an answer?
 
#9 ·
Well, as a new member, let me clue you in. It is difficult, at first, to search the forums. The trick is to select Search, and then select show posts and this will de-select, show threads, which is very confusing, then enter your research topic. We have had many, many, many lively discussions that include those that support it and those that don't, and all those in-between. Frankly, I can't think of another subject on DT that has been discussed more and discussions usually end.....abruptly, ergo Burns' very wise advice. Have fun looking around and welcome to DT :wavey:
 
#5 ·
Sure :) The search function is really useful for finding info on certain topics. You can search just titles of threads, or within the thread itself for keywords. The cropping debate (and other cropping-related information) has been well-covered on the forum, so I'm sure you will find something. Also, you should check out the Educational Archive for good threads on specific topics, including cropping. Good luck :)
 
#6 ·
Well, there are many different answers to your question.

These answers are strictly what I think.

1) The look of a professionally done crop job is worth the money and time, and looks really nice.
2) They are easier to clean (correct me if I'm wrong, LOL :redface:)
3) They just look nice lol

Kleo was natural eared and I loved her for her, not for her ears. I don't mind cropped or natural ears. I love both of them. And just as Kris said, "I will crop any future dog mostly because I absolutely love the look of a nicely cropped Dobe. They just look great." me too :D
I hope you find the answer you are looking for.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... we like what we used to.
I love silky, soft, friendly looking natural ears.

No problems to clean uncropped ears. Gino is my third Doberman.
We have never had any problems with ears infections, etc.

Any other reasons?
 
#23 · (Edited)
I think some minds are cropped and docked... not the breed. Otherwise, there would not be an issue to show/breed a dog with natural ears.

Do you release how many great strong healthy dogs are not shown/bred because their owners can not crop the ears considering it crule?

Sorry, after reading threads about ear cropping I am a bit disappointed.
 
#83 · (Edited)
so true, LOL!!! Took me almost 7 months with Morgan!

The breed was created by Dobermann and was docked/cropped and most German breeds were. Personally I think they look very regal with cropped ears. I've never had a natural ear dobe, but would still love it. You did mention you liked the "friendly" ear....cropped ears and not non-friendly IMO....just thought I'd add that

as mentioned above, no wild canines have floppy ears. Reasons include hearing better, less likey to get ear infections, etc....WE as humans genitically made most dog breeds to our liking (take bulldogs for example with the pushed in faces, most have to be born C-section because MAN bred them that way). They were all bred down from their wild ancestors and some now have floppy ears. That's un-natural to me. :D
 
#17 ·
I too have had both cropped and natural ears, I do prefer the look of the ears cropped though.

One thing I really notice with the natural ears- is that alot of people assume that they are some mix breed and don't take care on their approach with the dog. That is not a bad thing all the time but was a concern for me.

It was easier to clean the ears I thought when they were cropped-they didn't seem to have as much dirt accumulate. Just my opinion though.
 
#18 ·
Both of my dogs are cropped and docked. Personally I love the look. Uncropped is beautiful too, just not my cup of tea. However, if I had to choose between a bad crop and natural ears I would go natural. Nothing worse than a bad crop! (well, there are worse things, but you know what I mean :) )
 
#19 ·
I have had 5 dobermans since the 70's all males all cropped and docked, dew claws removed. All males, 3 reds 2 blacks, all family members and pets no shoing as of yet, maybe this current pup.

I just like the look of a doberman with cropped ears. I've seen them uncropped and they are beautiful too, but I prefer a cropped doberman.

Interesting point about people sometimes not thinking the uncropped dog is a doberman.

I find that big time with red and tan dobermans. Having had 3 reds and 2 blacks, it's amazing how many people aren't sure if a red is actually a doberman? This new guy is red and it's almost the 1st question I'm asked about him? is that a doberman? He looks like one but I've never seen one such a beautiful colour.........or will he turn black when he's an adult?

I think the ears more then anything have been cropped for decades and it looks more like a doberman to most with cropped ears.....so some is "monkey see, monkey do"

Then some just love the cropped look more then natural. I think when push comes to shove it's cosmetic personal preference of the owner.

I have to admit the worry, taping, worry, posting, worry, breate rites more worry is really a demanding process to have perfect cropped ears. I've had short, med and long in the last 3 pups and esp the med and tall half way through I'm questioning why didn't I leave them natural? The end result is just so beautiful to me I'm glad I cropped them in the end.
 
#27 ·
The only issue I see is someone trying to force their opinion on us. So, grrrreeeeaaat, PETA has a convert. whooopppeeee!
 
#31 ·
It's is how the breed is intended, if they take that away from me I will be *&$$@D. I have gotten very used to seeing a natural dobe thanks to this board and I really like them, however I fell in love with the breed they way they were developed. My dog has no ill effects of his crop.
 
#32 ·
One question,thirty one replies and NO answer to the original question..

The Dobermann Pinscher breed was developed as a guard/protection dog and cropping the ears is for both the traditional guard duty and effective sound localization.
Dogs use their ears for expression.Ears cropped and perked-up forward express the dogs alertness which helps them in their protection work.
 
#33 ·
Yes, 31 replies and only one right answer. Dobies don't need cropped ears anymore. Majority of them are not working dogs. The cropping is done for the show ring only.

A puppy from the litter I bought Gino from passed away during the ears cropping surgery.

His owner was not sure what to do with ears and came to the forum to look for advise... you may guess what happened after.

Isn't it CRUEL? You don't want to accept it because you like THE LOOK.
Think about... it may happen to your future puppy.
 
#36 ·
I'm so sorry about your boy's littermate...

What were the complications from the surgery? Was it actually during the surgery, or afterwards? Did he have a clotting problem or a reaction to the anesthesia? I must have missed that thread, sorry. If you don't want to discuss it again, can you send along a link to the thread?

The reason I ask how it happened is that I wonder if the issue that caused his death during his ear crop would have arisen later in life during another routine surgery, like a neuter.
 
#38 · (Edited)
This was my pup that she is referring to. From what I understand the pups O2 levels were low. He was bagged and in doing so they somehow collapsed his lung. 9 other pups were cropped without incident. This was a vet that was very experienced in show cropping as well.

These things can happen with any elective surgery and this has not made me anti-crop anymore than if it happened during a spay neuter would have made me anti-spay neuter.

The pup I ended up with was not cropped due to that fact that he had a heart murmur and the opinion was that surgery would be too risky. I wish that he was cropped, but I love him just the same.

DreamValley: I know you are very against cropping and that is ok, but I don't think you are going to change anyone's mind here, and especially not in the way you are going about it. There are lots of very knowledgeable people on here with good information about our dogs, and they are always willing to answer any questions.