Upon checking the photos I took on Christmas, I realize her hair was perfectly fine back then. I think it started after we bath her on new yrs Eve

 

from what you have mentioned in your post, and the pictures you have posted. It appears to me that your dog has what is called Demadex. it appears to only be localized to your Dobies back at the moment. If untreated it will continue till it becomes generalized.

Demodectic Mange in Dogs | petMD

I would go to your vet as soon as possible and get a skin scraping. I have worked with multiple dobermans that have had this problem. A lot of the times it is hereditary and is common in BYB dobermans and unpapered dobermans that are not health tested. Both my AKC dobermans never had puppy mange but a few people I know who have rescue dobies thier pups had it bad.

It is cause by a weakness in the dogs immune system not being able to fight off the mites. This problem can be treated at home using .01ml of ivermectin for every 10 pounds a 100lb doberman would get .1ml of ivermectin given orally once a week along with 250mg amoxicillin 2 twice a day if the demadex is generalized I have treated with the ivermectin every 3day closely monitoring the dog.

but like I said before consult with your vet and get a skin scraping of that area to be 100% sure. Ivermectin can also be used as a heartworm guard once a month

 

Thanks for the reply. From what you've mentioned and what's written in the site you posted, I really hoped it's not demadex. Mika is from a reputable doberman breeder here in Australia with good bloodline, and it seem that from the site you posted that only dogs with immune compromised system are more likely to get it... Mika is very healthy (or at least I hope so...)
Just now I use the phones flashlight and I manage to see it more clearly, I found that not only her back, actually her sides aswell, but those are just tiny dots of bald spot that are not visible without the flashlight and I think I've seen those before on her, like months before when I was checking a small bump on her body with the flashlight. She has no hair loss on her head area.

Anyways ill phone the vet tomorrow and see if I can bring her in... We just went yesterday for her ear infection but didn't ask about this as I just found out today...

Edit: !!! just remembered that I start giving her occasional mango pieces as treats which she never had before, starting just around new yr when dad brought home a box of mangoes... Not sure if she could be allergy to them?

 

You state you do not see it in red or black dob, but in blue, fawn and white dobes? Mika is a standard black & rust dob. But no matter what I'll bring her in for a vet check just to be sure.

Her vet isn't available on Thur so I'll bring her in on Fri or Sat. Will keep your guys updated! Thanks for the help!

 

let me correct myself it was a little early in the morning. Your doberman may be black/rust in color but his bloodlines, somewhere down the line one of his parents or grandparents or great grandparent was or could have been blue, fawn or white, they could also carry the recessive gene. They might not appear blue, white or fawn but they have the recessive genes meaning they have the ability to produce those color puppies in a litter, so in the past his great grand parent could have been part blue part fawn or part black or part blue. Also a black female could have bred with a blue to produce this litter or his parents litter you do not know unless the blood lines are documented. I have 8 generations back on my AKC dobermans. Somewhere in your dogs bloodline could be the recessive blue, fawn, or white gene causing the underlying issue.

 

My dog has thin hair down his spine, on his back legs, and variably on his ears, neck and chest. I did thyroid testing and depending on which doctor was doing the testing, he was or was not hypothyroid. Since I saw no difference with the medication, I stopped giving it. He also had skin scrapes which came back negative. The dermatologist I saw basically said even black Dobermans can have a crappy coat. It's not just the dilutes. Not CDA perhaps, but the same end result. I also did an elimination diet which did help the neck, chest and ears, (although he was also on an antibiotic for most of that time period) but it had no affect on the thin hair on the spine and back legs. Hopefully you'll have more success than I have.

 

What exactly are you feeding your girl, what proteins, supplements and vitamins? You only mentioned chicken.

Is she scratching at all?

What shampoo are you using and for how long have you I used it? Are you washing in cool water, not warm? Below is the correct way to properly bath a dog.

Bathing A Dog - DPCA Breeder/Exhibitor Education

When you rinse, do you rinse for about twice as long as you think you should? Also, doing a final rinse of one cup white vinegar in a gallon of water to the skin will remove any possible soap residue and make the skin inhospitable to yeast and bacteria.

Excellent bath, rinse, allergy, and shampoo information: http://healthypets.mercola.com/site...9/07/14/allergies-and-skin-problems-what-can-you-do-to-help-your-itchy-pet.aspx

How long before you apply frontline are you washing your girl. You don't want to apply frontline to perfectly clean skin as it needs some oil to work from my understanding. Read the directions as it should tell you or ask your vet.

If you have a good breeder, do you ever ask her for help. She should be your number one resource.

 

My Kip has allergies, and one of the first signs that they are flaring up again is thinning of his hair, especially along the ridge of his back and on his throat and chest. Then the hair on his sides starts to thin too. But the thinned areas are generalized, not patchy, so IDK…

Hope you get an answer soon. Skin trouble seems to be a lot of dobes middle name.

 

My Kip has allergies, and one of the first signs that they are flaring up again is thinning of his hair, especially along the ridge of his back. Then the hair on his sides starts to thin too. But the thinned areas are generalized, not patchy, so IDK…
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Good distinction to make. Ivan's isn't patchy.

 

You are showing exactly what Lana looked like in late November. She has allergies apparently.

I washed her with a medicated shampoo from the Vet 3 weekends in a row following the directions from Dobebug (and AKC Breeder Education) on how to wash a dobe (cool water, dilute shampoo, small areas at a time, rinse, rinse and rinse again).

I also ended up using Benadryl to take down the reaction, and Simplicef to deal with some foliculitis that ensued. I have since removed all grains from her diet (1 morning biscuit) including a small amount of soy in a bison treat she was getting. I switched from Fish Oil to Salmon Oil capsules and added a little VitA once a day.

I am currently watching the reaction to chicken very closely to see if she reacts within 24 hrs to a chicken meal - I feed prey model raw diet.

Your photos looked like Lana did (she is red) but you could see affected area by standing behind her when she bent her head down - very obvious. Also Lana has a shorter coat and any blemish is immediately noticeable.

But that was my experience and I definitely use my Vet.

I once had a well-bred black male in Sydney who would get covered in reactive bumps head, shoulders, back, legs (if it went on that long) and they would then get infected if left - after a year of treatment involving a lot of ab, I switched him over to a special brand of Salmon Oil and VitA capsules - that is the same brand I use to this day for Lana. For Trajan, it nailed the problem within about 2-3 weeks of starting the supplements (nailed might be a bit strong, we saw improvement that increased steadily over a further couple of months) and he never had anything like that again (he stayed on the supplements until he died).

 

Mika's raw diet is followed by breeders recommendation. Of course it doesn't only include chicken. I feed her a variety of meat eg kangaroo, lamb, veal, turkey, chicken, sardines and a daily raw egg. I also add this Vets all natural mix (info about it here, which was also what breeder feed her dogs) to her daily dinner together with meat mince and all the supplements (fish oil, omega blend oil, digestive aid, apple cider vinegar). It's the same diet she has been on all her life since at the breeder and she never shown any reaction towards it, I haven't changed her diet at all.

The only new food that I've introduced to her is mangoes... And if it is allergy reaction I'd say its because of the mangoes. As I gave her a bath on the 29th of Dec and didn't noticed any bald spots, and at approx the same time I start giving her mangoes which she never had before.

I apply frontline plus about a week after I give her a bath, and I use oatmeal shampoo and conditioner for dogs, it's the same shampoo and conditioner I've been using all the time. The way I give her a bath is I take her to my bathroom's shower, and use cool water and rubs her hair thoroughly with the shampoo, then wash them off with water. Then I use hair dryer made for dogs and dry her hair completely. But even with the oatmeal shampoo, she still tend to get lots of dandruffs few days after bath, not sure if dandruffs is related to this hair loss? The bald patches doses look flaky but no redness etc.

Made an appointment just now for Friday as her usual vet is off today, will let your guys know how it goes!

 

Bathing A Dog - DPCA Breeder/Exhibitor Education

 

All sounds good foosquare, except I don't see any vitamin E. Do you give extra E? Fish oil depletes the body of vitamin E so you need to supplement. Dosage is 200 iu vitamin E per 300 mgs combined EPA/DHA in the fish oil. That's usually the amount of EPA/DHA in 1000 mg fish oil pills here.

 

No I do not add any extra Vit E, do you just use the Vit E capsule for human? Because I've never fed her any human supplement, all the fish oil, omega blend oil and digestive aid that I use on Mika were made for pets.

 

Edit: sorry the fishy smell was actually due to the antibiotic cream I put on her for the bump, it's the cream vet prescribed before for the same type of bumps found before. Because there is one small bump on the thinning hair section, so I put the cream on. There isn't any smell on other area of thin hair.

 

Yes, just use the human vitamin E. About all you can get here anymore is 400 iu softgels. However since vitamin E is sotted in the fat you can give the fish oil twice a day and the E one. You can even just give the vitamin E twice a week as long as you give the 200 iu per 300 mgs EPA/DHA.

I give fish oil twice a day, IF I don't give sardines, and just give vitamin E after evening meal.

Sardines have the omega 3s, so I don't give fish oil when giving sardines. You also don't have to give vitamin E with sardines.

The vinegar smell goes away once they're dry. I let Parker drip dry, too. Moisture is okay for a dogs skin like it is for people and they shouldn't have any odor if you washed get well...gently. I don't USSR conditioner, but dobebug might.

That bump sounds like it might be staph. The vinegar will help with it, too, even if it's an insect bite. Parker has food and environmental allergies and in the summer I spray him down with a half white vinegar half water mix when he comes in from outside, wipe the vinegar mix kind of up and down the sides and rest of his body with a couple of paper towels once or twice a day, depending on how bad the pollen is. I don't dry him with the towels as they're soaked before it's over. You have to let the vinegar dry on the skin four it to be antibacterial. Never rub your girl against the grain of her hair. Go with the grain or kind of sideways as you're moving backwards. This prevents me from having to bath him twice a week for constant allergy breakouts of staph and yeast.

Allergies will also cause yeast infections in BOTH ears and between the toes. The feet have to be treated differently to cure them. Parkers allergies were obvious by seven months tho. One early symptom is recurrent puppy staph infections. It's possible for them to develop at a later age, also.

The diet you're feeding is a good one to help prevent food allergies from developing if she were inclined to have them.

 

Thanks, will go get some Vit E. I give her 1-2 piece of sardine everyday, that's why I only give her fish oil once per day with dinner. So you are saying after the white vinegar wash, I'll have to spray white vinegar water on her once or twice a week? Because what I use to get mosquitoes and insects away during summer is the Repel X, I'll spray them on her once a day before going outside, but even with it she still tend to get bitten by insects a lot, as she loves to roll on the grass, sun bathing etc. so if I use the white vinegar water spray twice a week, I can stop using the repel x?

She does tend to chew on her front two paws quite a lot before, vet say its allergy, but she didn't give any medication as she say she will only give if the paws are red or inflamed. And she has fungal infection in both ears at the moment due to weather and her floppy ears. Not sure if all these can contribute to the thinning of her hair at the back. At least I will know if it's mange or not by tomorrow!

P.s just another Q, does the vinegar water wash away her frontline plus that I put on for flea prevention? Or I don't have to use frontline if I use the vinegar water?

 

You use the vinegar rinse after a bath to remove the last little bit of soap that might remain and to make the skin inhospitable to bacteria, fungus and yeast. I think it helps to repel insects, but I've never really used it for that so don't know much about that aspect. I'll look on Dr Karen Becker's and see if I can find that.

I use the daily mix in the summers to wipe off the pollens and to make his skin resistant to staph, fungal and yeast infections that allergies cause. If your girl doesn't have food or environmental allergies, you don't need to do this step.

If your dog is licking her feet, they're irritated and there's no need for that. Plus, if she keeps between the toes wet, she will end up with foot yeast or bacterial problem eventually,I would think.

Thus is a good bit of advice: Irritated Pet Paws | How to Relieve Your Pet?s Irritated Paws

Now I'm off to look for the repellent information. I think she uses herbals, tho. Darkev is a good one to all about that, too.

Three articles popped up in my search about vinegar: http://search.mercola.com/search/pages/results.aspx?k=vinegar for insect repellent in dog

Couldn't find anything about using herbals in her articles.

 

Just got back from vet. She did a skin scraping on two locations on the back and didn't found any mites. So she say it's probably allergy to the grass and pollen due to the weather as she loves to belly roll on the grass everyday, but could also be due to her dry skin. She gave me this oatmeal conditioner that can be applied directly without the need to wash it off, and ask me to put that on her twice a week to keep her skin from drying. And also this cream to put on the thinned hair section. She say if the hair continues to fall, she will need to send the scraping to the lab and see if can culture anything.

 

Did she say anything about the purple bump...like what it looked like? Staph or no?

 

That was the same bump she had before since she was a puppy, she gets it often, especially in the warm seasons, she said it might be insect bite or puppy staph, either can be treated with the antibiotic cream she prescribed.

 

Hi OceanS,

I think LindaH answered most of your questions. But the very dilute vinegar rinse just removes any possible shampoo residue. It won't remove the Frontline Plus as long as you are applying it a few days after any recent bath (I believe you said you were applying I a week after a bath so it won't do a thing to the Frontline Plus.

The only dog I use a conditioner on is my fawn dog. The hair shaft is constructed a little differently in a fawn or blue--the shaft has (under a microscope you can see this quite plainly)plates that overlap--in all of my black dogs and the only red dog I've ever owned those plate are tight and the hair is very dense--the fawn dogs shaft is not as dense and the plates are looser. I use a leave in conditioner on him. I thin the conditioner down (it can be left in or applied and rinsed off) to about 1 part of conditioner to 20 or 25 parts of water. I bathe him wipe him down with a towel and spray him with the conditioner. Let him shake and spray him again. Then I wipe him down again and let him shake.

The moisture left in his coat will not harm the skin--it's not like coated dogs or dogs with heavy undercoats who may end up with nasty hot spots from wet coats that never get dried properly.

Vinegar water wouldn't diddly for flea protection. Keep using Frontline or Advantage. I've lived in some of the flea capital of the western world and have never found anything herbal that actually controlled fleas.

And for flying insects--I happen to be in an area where it's not so much of a problem for the Dobes but when I had my Aussie, for reasons that I never understood, biting flies (who never bothered the Dobes) would torment him and bite his ears if I didn't use one of the horse flying insect protectors. I tried various herbal mixtures for his ears and never saw that they controlled the miserable flies so I resorted to using something I knew worked.

I also give both fish oil and Vitamin E. I use stuff sold for humans as the fish oil for pets is much more expensive. I buy both at Costco and the Dobes get 1,000 mg capsules of fish oil with each meal and one Vitamin E with their dinner. One on my vets was the one who sent me to Costco for the fish oil and Vitamin E. When buying fish oil for the human market just remember to NOT buy the kind that has a coating on it so that it doesn't dissolve in the stomach (and give you fishy burps)--with the shorter GI tract on a dog you want the less expensive uncoated capsules. The coated ones will usually just go through the dog not stopping to be processed.

Hope all of this helps. And if the vet thinks she might be loosing hair because of her rolling in grass etc--I know that for dogs owned by friend just wiping the down as they come in from outside, with a dampened terry cloth towel will remove dust, pollen etc and if anything is going on that is acting as an allergine it will help control it.

If her skin is that dry adding the Vitamin E and cutting out the hair drying should help that too.

 

Thanks dobebug and Lindah, and everyone else for all the useful replies. I'll def try the suggestions and hopefully her coat will grow back soon!

 

Update: I've starting to see more hair thinning patch on her, and it's mostly on the side of her body, close to her shoulder and front armpits. I've seen her scratch that area with her back legs, so I think the part she want to scratch should be the big patch on her back, but she can't reach it. So she scratched the side instead and caused the side to lose hair too. She's also losing hair on her back leg knees(where she bend when she sit), but just a small patch.

I'm really starting to think it might be pollen or grass allergy, as the grass in our backyard is pretty dry due to the summer heat, sun and lack of rain, and thus quite pointy, and she loves to lay on it. We hardly water the backyard as she plays there a lot, and if the grass is wet she won't step a foot on it. But since 3 days ago I've started to water the backyard when she's sleeping and green grass has started to grow again.
Hopefully this will all go back to normal once autumn come.

P.s I asked my vet about the vinegar wash, she say she never heard of it but guess I could try. I'm not sure if I should give her a bath now with the vinegar, or shall I wait till the hair grow back? Currently I'm just putting on the leave-on oatmeal + aloe Vera conditioner on her twice a week as there's quite a lot of dandruff, especially after we applied the medical cream on her patches. And the conditioner seem to work to reduce her dandruff a lot.

 

Update: I've starting to see more hair thinning patch on her, and it's mostly on the side of her body, close to her shoulder and front armpits. I've seen her scratch that area with her back legs, so I think the part she want to scratch should be the big patch on her back, but she can't reach it. So she scratched the side instead and caused the side to lose hair too. She's also losing hair on her back leg knees(where she bend when she sit), but just a small patch.

I'm really starting to think it might be pollen or grass allergy, as the grass in our backyard is pretty dry due to the summer heat, sun and lack of rain, and thus quite pointy, and she loves to lay on it. We hardly water the backyard as she plays there a lot, and if the grass is wet she won't step a foot on it. But since 3 days ago I've started to water the backyard when she's sleeping and green grass has started to grow again.
Hopefully this will all go back to normal once autumn come.

P.s I asked my vet about the vinegar wash, she say she never heard of it but guess I could try. I'm not sure if I should give her a bath now with the vinegar, or shall I wait till the hair grow back? Currently I'm just putting on the leave-on oatmeal + aloe Vera conditioner on her twice a week as there's quite a lot of dandruff, especially after we applied the medical cream on her patches. And the conditioner seem to work to reduce her dandruff a lot.

Have you tried feeding her coconut oil. From what I've read, it's really good for all of the symptoms that your pup is going through. I just started today with my pup. He has some thinning of the coat along his butt. A lady at the pet store who is also a breeder, told me to try fish oil. After reading about coconut oil, I chose that option.

 

I'm not sure if I can add coconut oil when she's currently on fish oil?

 

Yes, you can give both as the same time. Coconut oil has different fats than the omega 3s contained in the fish oil. Coconut oil is very good for dogs and people alike.

It's not a vinegar bath, it's a vinegar rinse after the bath or, as I use it, a half water half white vinegar spray and rubdown to remove the pollen after your dog comes in from outside and to make the skin inhospitable to fungus, yeast and bacteria. After the first heavy spray and rub, then I just do a quick rubdown everytime he comes back inside from outside during heavy pollen times. I do that and I don't have to bath him for itchy skin. The vinegar smell goes away after it dries and it deodorizes your dog.

Do not get the vinegar rinse or spray in the eyes or genital areas.

 

Here's an excellent Dog Aware article explaining about fat supplements. This site is loaded with all kinds of excellent information about dog health and other dog "stuff".

DogAware.com Articles: Oil Supplements

I buy white vinegar by the gallon. It's miracle stuff for Parker! I've not had to take him to the vet for skin issues since I started using it like I recommended (washing off pollens). Before I started using it I was having to bath Parker twice a week with medicated shampoo. Last summer never had to give him a bath, but I also quit making him spend a couple hours outside a day...want to make that cleat, too. I can tell when he starts to get itchy as he gives body shakes and half hearted stomach scratches with his back leg. Gotta watch under those front armpits, too, as they are a hotspot for yeast from allergies.

It has also cleared up a couple of actual hotspots and various little breakouts. If he gets a bump or bare spot,I spray it with the half vinegar half water a couple of times a day for four or five days and they go away. Best stuff ever and it's dirt cheap!!!

 

Thanks! Mika is also scratching her front armpit with her back legs recently too. And it has caused the skin around the front arm to start falling and I'm starting to see thin patches of hair around there too. I'll start the vinegar tomorrow after giving her a bath.
I remember you stated to mix a cup of white vinegar with a gallon of water, do you mean by the actual 'cup' measurement we use when baking food etc? Cos one cup of white vinegar sounds a lot and it's only mixed with one gallon of water, won't that be too acidic for the skin? Or shall I just do the vinegar spray for now instead of a bath since she's still losing hair.

 

Yes,I mean an actual cup of vinegar to one gallon of water. Honesty,I had trouble getting the rinse down to the skin by pouring it on the dog. It just wanted to roll off the dog without getting to the skin. Using a good spray bottle is much, much easier. I use an old Spray and Wash bottle and soak Parker down with it. Once you get her sprayed down to the skin, you can wipe her off some, but don't dry her off or rinse the vinegar off. Let her drip dry.

The vinegar will not bother her skin. It won't burn or string unless you get in the eyes, vulva or anus or if she has a raw place. It has such good antibacterial qualities that I will spay little sores and such with it even if it's going to sting some. Parker will let me do anything with him, tho, so if you question your dog possibly taking offense, keep in mind the area of the spot. IOW, don't spray down a huge raw spot with it cause it's gonna sting a little.

I use a much stronger mix of half and half, but you could go ahead and use the rinse mix and see if that will help her spots before trying a stronger mix. If you do decide to use a stronger mix on down the road, don't let her lick it because half and half is too strong for her to be swallowing it. That might cause some throat irritation or upset stomach.

Please read this as it has some excellent information you need to know about allergies, baths and rinses. It's not that long either.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/site...9/07/14/allergies-and-skin-problems-what-can-you-do-to-help-your-itchy-pet.aspx

 

maybe do some research on seborrhea (dry), skin issues in dogs.

the ear infection, skin issues, etc. could be related to a sensitivity to something in the diet..............or a low functioning thyroid.

Hugz to Mika!

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2111&aid=421

 

maybe do some research on seborrhea (dry), skin issues in dogs.

the ear infection, skin issues, etc. could be related to a sensitivity to something in the diet..............or a low functioning thyroid.

Hugz to Mika!

Causes of Hair Loss (Alopecia) in Dogs

Talk about sensitivity in her diet, I haven't changed anything. It was the same ingredients etc that I use to feed her before, but I guess it's also possible for her to develop sensitivity to the diet while growing up, hopefully this isn't the case... Will the vet be able to check for her thyroid function levels with blood test? If so I might aswell ask the vet to do a test next time we go for a revisit.

I did ask if the vet if the ear infection is related to her hair falling, she say since the ear infection is caused by fungus (she say they are everywhere, especially in the grass in current summer season), if her hair starts falling more, she will do another scrape of her skin and send to the lab and see if she can culture anything related to fungal.

Just gave her a bath and the final rinse with the vinegar water, and let her drip dry. I'll do the daily vinegar water spray aswell and see if this work. I think the hair on her back has started to grow back, but more is falling on her side and a few small patches on her back legs aswell.

P.s I really have no idea what type of grass is growing in the backyard, as I'm not really a "garden" person if you know what I mean lol, we don't have a single plant in or outside the house except the lawn

 

She gets 1-2 fresh sardines everyday. Just yesterday she starts this sneezing episodes, like she will sneeze about 20-30 times a day. But she doesn't sneeze when sleeping or playing though. So I'm thinking if it could be allergy symptoms aswell. She does has infection in both ears for quite a while, but I'm suspecting atopy allergy more than food allergy as most of her symptoms fits that of an atopy allergy.
P.s her diet doesn't consist of any soy, wheat or corn.

 

LindaH, would Mika benefit from an antihistamine?

 

They helped Parker. I don't have to give them anymore since I started feeding the sardines and using the vinegar water. Before that, the vet had me giving medicated baths twice a week, a months supply of antibiotics and a couple of steroid shots to stop the horrendous itching. Of course once you run out of antibiotics and the steroid wears off, the yeast and staph come back with a vengeance because the steroids shut down the immune system. That's all a regular vet knows to do, but it's about the worst treatment for your dog.

A person really needs to go to a holistic veterinarian or dermatologist. You really have to build the dogs immune system up and avoid exposure as much as one can.

I'm wondering if I should bring her to an animal dermatologist? There's one in sydney that's pretty popular, it's about an hour drive away from my place: SASH | 24 hour emergency vet sydney | Vet and Small Specialist Animal Hospital
Because my vet just doesn't seem very specialized in this area in my opinion, I can ask her for a referral letter to this clinic. Maybe a dermatologist can better diagnose her condition?

As was said before, you need to have her thyroid tested to rule that out first. You have to have a full panel done. Don't let your vet say he can do what you need inhouse, because he cannot!!! Her blood has to be sent off. If her thyroid checks out okay, then go to the dermatologist if that's what you want to do. A dermatologist will certainly be much better than your regular vet.

 

I'm wondering if I should bring her to an animal dermatologist? There's one in sydney that's pretty popular, it's about an hour drive away from my place: SASH | 24 hour emergency vet sydney | Vet and Small Specialist Animal Hospital
Because my vet just doesn't seem very specialized in this area in my opinion, I can ask her for a referral letter to this clinic. Maybe a dermatologist can better diagnose her condition?

 

Hi Oceans, I am also in Sydney. In December 2012 we noticed same symptoms with Blitz and went to vet had skin scrape etc and she had antibiotics which sort of helped. She also rolls in grass lots. Of the dogs she plays with several others had same symptoms and vets advice varied from anti allergy meds to coconut oil. In about march all dogs symptoms cleared. Last year December 2013 Blitz and another doberman started same symptoms again. Blitz was not so bad as I have been giving her coconut and salmon oil and rubbing her with coconut oil on her zoom groom brush. I also spray with diluted neem oil and use scream direct onto any spots called skin eze herbal ointment from greenpet.com.au if we go through this routine of neem oils spray every day she is almost symptom free. I also wash her collars in wool mix as the grass seems to get under her collar making her neck most itchy. Hope this helps and I think it will go away when it rains!!!!


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I'm just wondering if the coconut oil you use for rubbing are those made for cooking (8 saw this 100% raw virgin coconut oil in Costco for cooking)? Or those coconut oil lotions that pharmacy sell to rub on her body?