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Calming a young boy!

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#1 ·
I have young male 11 months with very high energy drive. he is back to spending his days at work with me which gives him plenty stimulus and exercise. I am seeing a problem starting to develop when we get home. I have a female pit/mix 5yrs 30#that stays home. The young male has always showed great interest in her and she will have little interest in him and on occasion be playful but mostly tolerate his rough play. On our entry both dogs energy level goes up and i can calm the dobe but he is so focused on her and only wants to interact with the female. We are not having fights but he is so rough it really has to be checked. This is not a entry issue only, he does shadow her and can get pawsy. I am only making him stop and sit and getting him to focus on me. How do i get him to respect her space?
 
#2 ·
Sorry, my experience is that while you can stop the interaction only the other dog can get the younger dog to "respect her space". Most bitches do that by rolling their lip back to their eyebrows and threatening to kill the young dog--sometimes they back that threat up by poking a few holes in the offender.

I think at 30# she's too small to get much respect from an 11 month old exuberant male. But I've seen some very small dogs make it known that they do not want to play with a younger Dobe in the fashion that most Dobes choose to play (too rough for many breeds).

Sometimes separation is the only realistic choice.

Good luck!
 
#3 ·
To get him to respect her space, you need to keep him out of it. Obviously she is not willing to set the boundary, so it is up to you.

Our small mixed breed was much like your girl- she was tolerant (rarely) and pretty much just wanted to be left alone. So, my Dobe was taught from day 1 to "BACK OFF" (similar to "leave it", but specific to mean Stop pestering the cats or other dogs).

If she or the cats approached and instigated play it was allowed unless he got too excited and out of hand. If he approached them, it was NEVER okay and he was told to "back off". She passed away at 19 years of age, and had raised 4 puppies- all trained to leave her alone unless she wanted them to interact.

I used the same technique/command with my current Dobe and the cats. He has a VERY high drive, so it was absolutely essential. The cats adore him and will rub all over him now :)

Since you have allowed your boy to get away with it for so long I suspect you will need to start the training on a leash or long line, to ensure that you can get his attention immediately.
 
#6 ·
Another thing that rarely gets mentioned is to wear your dobe out. I tired dog is a good dog.

Like dobermama, I had to get my pup from terrorizing my three cats and exercising him until he was a panting and slobbering mess worked wonders. The idea is to get him tired enough so he won't bother your female.

Good luck.
 
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#9 ·
Another thing that rarely gets mentioned is to wear your dobe out. I tired dog is a good dog.
We should remember sometimes a too tired dog is a grumpy dog also :)

balance is the key
 
#7 ·
Remmy, my ten pound Shih Tzu x Maltese male, only has to growl at Kris who weighs about 70 lbs. and she is lying down and behaving herself. It has also made her respect my other little dogs but not to the same extent. I had to keep her separated from them a lot when she was younger but now at ten months they are together if I am there to supervise them.

I never ever interfered from the time that Kris was a puppy and Remmy went after her for being too rough with her front feet and smacking him as I knew he would not really hurt her even though a few times she would let out a yelp.
 
#8 ·
The only thing that successfully taught Stryker to show respect for other dogs is unfortunately a nice puncture wound to his side. He was the most obnoxious and rough puppy I had ever had until one of the older female Dobes at the breeders got tired of dealing with it and let him have it. He was boarding at the place I got him while we were out of town and when I got back, he had a nice puncture wound which turned into a hematoma. Although I was not happy about the bite and what resulted afterwards, I was amazed at how much more respectful he was around other dogs!


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#12 ·
sometimes i think i just do not know what to say or what command that i am comfortable with using over and over. i think i have a dog that will respond to what i ask , or is very capable of getting it i am finding out. I used "back off" this evening with good success i liked the phrase and it fit with what i wanted. We had a much better night!
 
#13 ·
"No" or "Stop" are the commands I use. No if he's doing something he should never do and Stop if he is being a bit overzealous.
 
#19 ·
It sounds like you are dealing with a pretty typical adolescent male! :lol2: We went through a similar thing with Rowan, he would get so wound up around other dogs that he absolutely would lose control of himself. What I did was work with him on "leave it" and also calling him out of play. At first I had to call him to me seriously every 20-30 seconds or so. "Come", (sit/down, etc.) Click, treat, repeat. After a while he started to learn how to listen to me while playing and it also taught him to learn some self control. It helps them recognize when they are past the limit of what is acceptable and in time (and with maturity ;)) they grow out of some of it.

As for the other dog, if she will stand up for herself and let him "have it", like others have said, that may be something they need to work out on their own. Rowan was a pretty bold, but soft puppy, so he would amp way up but if another dog told him off he would back down. I think it is just important to know your dogs and manage them accordingly to keep everyone safe and happy.
 
#26 ·
This guy is really hard to turn off , if i am moving he is moving and i am not one to sit still. He does not get long periods of rest while we are together. We get a few work-outs during the day, but for me to wear this guy out i may go out of business trying. My initial problem i think for me was the right command ..stop stop it , quit these words had no meaning to him so i would just garner his attention and have him sit and hold him for a period and release , i was getting no where. The word "back-off" works for both of us , he is responding...the female is not a submissive bitch a bit bi-polar maybe, as i have been able to cool his jets a bit she appears to trying egg him on more, it like she wants his attention until she get it.
 
#27 ·
I have to sprint my dog about 6 hours a week at a nearby field or he's bouncing of the walls and chasing the cats.

Good luck finding an outlet for him.

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#29 ·
Some dogs need to be taught how to settle. No amount of physical exercise can replace that.

Try more mental stimulation, training and thinking/puzzle games. This always settles my boy way more than running does.

Think of a wound up 6 year old kid... would you turn on music and ask him to jump around on the bed and dance if you wanted to settle him before bed?

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#39 ·
What Jazi means by too much is if it's forced exercise. Off leash run/play that isn't forced, as well as training are fine. An appropriate length walk for his age is also fine. But forced exercise like jogging/biking etc at a young age are not healthy. So it all depends on how he's getting his exercise. The only "forced" exercise my boy gets is a calm walk, and at a year old 45 mins of a calm walk are fine. Training isn't forced, and his off leash run/play times are on his terms, if he's tired he can stop, I'm not forcing him to keep up with me.

So yeah I can see how it could be confusing, it all depends on HOW you are exercising a young dog as to whether it's too much or not.
 
#40 · (Edited)
I would say that six to ten hours of running by your side is too much for a young dog. Notice in my post I went into further detail and said that I'm not concerned about energy, honestly my dobe had the energy to do that all day and get up to do the same the next day, but the pressure on his growing joints. While a young dog probably appreciates the activity, his joints will not. Free running and playing is different, because the dog can stop when he's tired. Most dogs will make the effort to keep up with you even when their joints and bones are telling them to stop- so if you are leashing him up to run for several hours straight yes, that's too much. Doing this on a young dog increases the chances for several bone and joint problems as he grows.

Most dogs need both the daily brisk walk plus free running and play plus some sort of training to be truly tired. Once his growth plates are done at 18-24 months the danger is passed and he'd probably appreciate the long runs very much plus some. Right now, not so much.

Also... you'll notice that sometimes people contradict each other in posts... that is because we are all separate people with our own experience and knowledge... this isn't a hive mind.