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Every night my dogs were put up on the bed for examination. I start at the head and exam ears, eyes and throat. I look at the neck down to the paws and exam the toes. I ask for belly and check their underside, down to the rear and back paws (toes). This is a ritual I've maintained for over 45 years. It not only teach the dog to relax for their home examination but is a teaching exercise for visits to the vets. Home exam are part of your dogs OB.
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What kind of dremel do you guys use?
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Heidi's nails are done every 2 weeks. Tips trimmed is necessary & dremeled. Right now I still take her over to the groomer or our vet for this, however I plan to change over & begin doing this myself. No treats necessary, this has been a ritual since she's been a pup so she is very used to it.

The rest of her grooming is handled by your's truly. Bath every 2 weeks or so at home in our tub. I use a Brightning shampoo (Paul Mitchell Pet) and a little oatmeal conditioner spray. Rubber bath brush for a nice massage.
Ears are always done after the bath...cotton soaked with a little ear cleaning to loosen the dirt & then a careful swab in the tight spots.
She makes a game of getting in the tub which is part of her own little ritual, but once she surrenders, she's fine. She see's the shampoo come out of the cabinet & runs around the house. (Silly girl)

Teeth are brushed with a canine toothpaste with finger brush to clean her gums & regular type brush to get her back teeth. This I do after the bath. Her teeth stay rather clean from the marrow bones she gnaws on etc.

Between baths, not much....just a pet wipe if needed or a chamois cloth to shine up her coat if we're going somewhere and I want her lookin her best!

Kratty, I'd love to see a topic on trimmimg. Right now, she's only been trimmed up once by her other vet (who is a show breeder) I loved the clean look of the muzzle & my girl has some hairy ears. I'm curios if anyone else makes a habit of trimming whiskers, ear hair, etc.

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Topic #5 – Grooming rituals
  • How often do you trim your Doberman's nails and how do you do them? (nail clippers, Dremel tool) If you use the Dremel, how did you get them used to it? (treats, corner them, etc) Any particle attachment and tool speed you like to use? What kind of problems did you have if any? Do you use a grooming table?
  • How often really depends on the dog. I've had some that really needed to be done weekly and others that could be done once a month. For years I used a guillotine type clipper (like the Resco) but I got a puppy who had nails so dense and slow growing that the clippers pinched him painfully so I switched to a Dremel. All of my Dobes have come from show breeders and they have all had experience with having nails done either with clippers or Dremels by the time I got them--I didn't actually have to train them. I have, however, trained other dogs for their owners and usually it involves treats, starting with just a touch of the tool on one nail to doing one foot. I have a a grinder that has a rheostat and is hardly worth using but I can turn it down to almost no power--it's very quiet that way, almost no vibration and it's great for teaching dogs about Dremels. I use sanding bands--20 grit for dogs with dense, hard nails and 60 grit for dogs with softer nails or for smoothing. I haven't owned a grooming table in years--at home I do nails in the kitchen which has good light and several corners--I back the dog into a corner and do the nails there. I work at a vet clinic and if I remember I will do nails there on one of the lift tables. Much, much easier on the back.

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  • How often do you clean your Dobermans ears, if so, what do you use?
Always after bathing, in between if I see a bunch of dirt. After bathing I don't usually use anything except a cotton ball and Q-tips. If in between baths I use Epi-Otic (an ear cleaner I get from the clinic where I work). I have one dog that gets his ears cleaned weekly because they itch if dirty--no infections, just itchiness.

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  • How often do you clean your Dobermans teeth? What do you use and how do you do it?
  • Occasionally. I use a soft bristle tooth brush (either one for dogs or a very soft one for humans) sit them down in the kitchen and brush. Sometimes I'll scale a canine incisor or the big upper premolers because they have a bit of tarter at the gum line but the dogs get recreational bones to chew on and that keeps their teeth very clean.

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  • How often do you give them baths? How do you give the bath? What do you do between baths (i.e.: brush, wipe down, etc.)?
  • When I'm showing the dogs they get bathed before every show weekend. After that they get maybe two or three baths a year. If they turn up at the door covered in mud they get rinsed off with the hose (no matter what the temperature might be). In between I wipe them down almost on a daily basis with a damp terrycloth towel.

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    ... Rubber bath brush for a nice massage.
    I noticed in reading through this thread that a lot of people use the rubber curries during baths and in between. I have a word of caution on that. Dogs, like Dobermans, who have short, dense tight fitting hair coats should probably not have those types of rubber curries used on them--particularly on a wet coat. Brushing this sort of coat against the grain (the lay of the hair) can start up some pretty nasty bouts of folliculitis often with attendant staph infections. Using a sponge or a terry wash cloth in the direction the hair lays is usually better for bathing and wiping down with a damp terrycloth towel works very well in between. It removes not just the dust but loose hair as well.

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    Kratty, I'd love to see a topic on trimmimg. Right now, she's only been trimmed up once by her other vet (who is a show breeder) I loved the clean look of the muzzle & my girl has some hairy ears. I'm curios if anyone else makes a habit of trimming whiskers, ear hair, etc.
    I'm certainly not Kratty but on the topic of trimming: While my dogs are being shown in conformation they get trimmed. In Dobes that basically means that you remove anything that sticks out by way of hair. So they loose their whiskers, hair on the ears, feathers on the neck, at the skirt, end of the tail etc. My deal with the dogs is that once they are out of the conformation ring they never have to have their whiskers trimmed again. Depending on how furry they tend to be I may trim ears (clip the hair inside the ear, run the clippers up the ear edge) and maybe the end of the tail and the skirt a few times a year--usually just before Obedience, Rally or Agility trials but beyond that they get to keep whatever they've grown.
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    Jasmine gets a bath every two weeks. Unless she gets muddy, or dirty sooner.. She gets her nails clipped at the vet.. Because I can't seem to do them correctly..
    I use Glenhaven bathing products from the vet. I recenlty tried "Pet Head' which is by Tigi.. the makers of "Bed Head" I have one of the shampoos and a deodorizing spray for between baths
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    Nails once a week..

    never had a bath..

    never cleaned there teeth.

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    bath about every 3 months

    nails every 2 weeks

    teeth around 1 a week, i gave them a scale and polish LOL
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    It was really difficult at first to clean Dobbie's teeth. My vet suspected the toothpaste to be the reason so recommended Petrodex toothpaste. Since then, brushing Dobbie's teeth became a regular thing for him. I think the Petrodex has this delicious taste that Dobbie liked.
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    Grooming

    How often do you trim your Doberman's nails and how do you do them? (nail clippers, Dremel tool) If you use the Dremel, how did you get them used to it? (treats, corner them, etc) Any particle attachment and tool speed you like to use? What kind of problems did you have if any? Do you use a grooming table? No grooming table, just sitting on the floor with a Doberman between my legs. We have one of those 'pet groomer/nail rounder' things - like a Dremel but quieter. We've been using it 'forever' so Hugo knows what's coming. I always set some Broccoli on the table next to me for Hugo to eye. He knows that when it's ALL over he'll get the Broccoli. The quieter he is, the faster he gets the Broccoli!

    How often do you clean your Dobermans ears, if so, what do you use? Once a week at bath-time. Ear Cleanse and a face cloth.

    How often do you clean your Dobermans teeth? What do you use and how do you do it? Once a week at bath-time. Tooth brush and tartar control gel.

    How often do you give them baths? How do you give the bath? What do you do between baths (i.e.: brush, wipe down, etc.)? Hugo gets his bath, once a week, in my daugther's bathtub - she has a long sprayer attachment, so we bath both cats and dog weekly. Hugo stays pretty clean between baths, so... normally, there is no additional coat care. If he's been out playing a lot, then I'll wipe him down with an organic fabric softener or some almond or peppermint oil, and glycerin.

    RE: FEET = Hugo hates to have his feet messed with, so I wait until he's 'sacked out' at night before rubbing oil into his pads - otherwise he'll just lick it all off, and dry out his pads further
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    Topic #5 – Grooming rituals (I just felt like reviving this worthy topic.)

    How often do you trim your Doberman's nails and how do you do them? (nail clippers, Dremel tool) If you use the Dremel, how did you get them used to it? (treats, corner them, etc) Any particle attachment and tool speed you like to use? What kind of problems did you have if any? Do you use a grooming table?

    I use a grooming table and a Dremel. The grooming table makes everything easier and the dogs are so used to getting on it that they know they will get many treats for whatever is going to happen on the table. I use super high-value treats when I'm going to Dremel and I use a plug-in Dremmel with the powerful motor because everything goes so fast. If you use a less powerful tool and take forever grinding away on the nails the dogs will dread the job instead of looking forward to it as mine do. I started out years ago with a rechargeable Dremmel but Doberman nails are much too thick and hard for that tool. I Dremmel my dogs' nails about once a week. Well, to be totally honest Bella only gets it every two weeks because she has poly arthritis and I hate making her do anything that is the least bit uncomfortable for her.

    How often do you clean your Dobermans ears, if so, what do you use.
    I cleanout ears about once a week. I use a tiny little bit of coconut oil on a cotton ball and just keep refreshing with a new cotton ball until one comes out clean. Then I take a dry cotton ball and wipe out any oil film. I have found that using the dab of oil on the cotton ball really collects the dirt much better than a dry cotton ball or a cotton ball wet with just water. My dogs do a lot of digging so their ears are pretty much of a garden plot unless I keep the dirt cleaned out.

    How often do you clean your Dobermans teeth? What do you use and how do you do it?
    I never clean my dogs teeth. They are on a raw diet and their teeth are sparkling white.

    How often do you give them baths? How do you give the bath? What do you do between baths (i.e.: brush, wipe down, etc.)?
    My dogs probably get a bath more often than many. They run and play and dig in our fenced acreage. Sometimes they come to the door looking like a mud hound! If I can I just wipe it all off with a towel but that often is not enough. If they have been "swimming" in the Creek or in one of the muddy areas then they will need a bath. I use an extremely mild horse shampoo and use it at a very dilute level (not full strength!). I spend a lot of time rinsing all the soap out; if you don't do that the soap will produce dandruff. I use a splash of vinegar in a pitcher of water for the final rinse.

    I do use a rubber currycomb on my dogs for massage and stimulation of their coat. The currycomb I use has many soft little rubber fingers on the surface that touches the dogs' coats. They love it! I also brush them with a very soft human hairbrush to get off the dead hairs and I do that out on my deck - it prevents a lot of shedding in the house if I do it often enough. I never brush my dogs' fur against the direction in which the fur grows. That is just simple logic and simple kindness. ;-)


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    How often do you trim your Doberman's nails and how do you do them? (nail clippers, Dremel tool) If you use the Dremel, how did you get them used to it? (treats, corner them, etc) Any particle attachment and tool speed you like to use? What kind of problems did you have if any? Do you use a grooming table?

    I use clippers, scissor type. When he was little I would do only one paw at a time taking just the very tips off and a high value treat after each nail. Gradually going to two paws, then three, then 4 with treats for each paw. Lots of praise and making sure there is zero negative connection with the trimming.

    How often do you clean your Dobermans ears, if so, what do you use.
    I cleanout ears about once every two weeks. I used diluted organic acv. Making sure the cotton isn't sopping.

    How often do you clean your Dobermans teeth? What do you use and how do you do it?
    I never clean my dogs teeth. They are on a raw diet and their teeth are sparkling white.

    How often do you give them baths? How do you give the bath? What do you do between baths (i.e.: brush, wipe down, etc.)?
    In the warmer months, I bathe when needed. If we've been out in the woods and he finds a nice stinky pile of something nasty... He's getting a bath when we get home. I have a walk in shower with access to a hand held shower handle. I use whatever I have on hand baby shampoo, or equine. I never use anything oatmeal based. For dogs with grain intolerance it can create an issue. In between or if he's not super messy I just wipe with a damp cloth or baby wipes (no I don't have a baby, but I use a lot of this stuff grooming for horse shows so it is readily on hand for me)

    I also massage him almost every night any anomalies are immediately identified and examined. Problem areas are rubbed with coconut oil daily.

    I do have a rubber mitt and a goat hair brush I use on him every day or so.


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    I use guillotine nail clippers for most everything. I have the scissor but they "click" too much. I dremel everytime I clip. I do toenails once a week. I use a hydraulic grooming table and she's very used to it. When she first was being taught, I used a lot of treats. Now I just tell her we're doing nails and she hops up on the table. I don't use treats anymore, just a "Good Girl". But we are talking a min or two to do nails now.

    I clean ears once a month, but they are checked every week. (when I do nails) I use a cotton swab or a gauze sponge and I use Stazko's ear cleaner. It does a great job with dirty, greasy ears and it smells so good.

    At this point in time, I don't clean her teeth. If I remember, I will brush them when I bathe her. She doesn't get baths very often because her skin is so dry. I usually wipe down with a baby wipe. If she gets into cow poop or something dead, she gets a bath. I use Best shot shampoo. It's what I use on my clients dogs. And I condition with Coat Handler conditioner. It is mild enough to leave on and that saves me a step when I am professionally grooming.
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    I clean ears every day, otherwise my Dobe will hurt himself scratching. I do use a headlamp with a hinge that allows me to see most of the ear canal. I use Best Shot herbal ear cleaner because it dissolves wax really well, but I think it stings if there are any sensitive spots. In that case, I use a few drops of mineral oil, massage it in, and then stuff a cotton ball in the ear and allow him to shake his head. I have a bent eye dropper for the mineral oil.

    I'd like to clean teeth every other day, but the ears take up most of my time. I have descaling tools from the dental hygenist and an Oral B brush, plus little rubber puppy brushes. The toothpaste is C.E.T. Vanilla Mint the vet ordered for me because their chicken flavour would cause a reaction.

    For bathing I use a rectangular bucket with a vinegar solution and soak feet two at a time, sponging him off. I follow up with Best Shot herbal hotspot spray. I also use a boracic acid solution to clean any staf or yeast infected areas and follow up with Veterycin. Wild boar treats have made this job easier.

    Counting my blessings, so to speak, I'm glad my Dobe would never roll in carrion. He won't go near anything like that--gives me a, "Please don't make me go there!" look. ]:@{ He also doesn't like to get his toes muddy. And he hates being wet. I have to towel him dry very thoroughly, but he'll still race around after.

    For nails I use Millers Forge clippers and a big nail file from the pet store. I keep the nails a little longer if conditions are icy. He'll pretty much fall asleep while I do his nails. Bag Balm is for the paw pads.

    My diningroom table is covered in grooming supplies, so I eat standing at the kitchen counter!



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    Bath time? No, thank you.

    My 2 dobies come running every morning when they see me get a washcloth out of the drawer... all I have to say is "who want's their face washed?" They LOVE having their faces and ears washed with a warm washcloth. I have small fingers so I can use the washcloth to reach pretty deeply into their ear canals. However, neither are fond of baths, so we never use the word "bath" or "do you want a bath?" (we know the answer). But as dobies are so intelligent, we can't even spell the word B-A-T-H, they know that one too. It takes two of us to try to accomplish a bath, and we just quietly get the tub and supplies ready, and try leading them to the bathroom on a leash-- they KNOW what's up and it's always a battle. During the last bath, Jack got so freaked out that he started flying around the bathroom and ended up breaking my great grandmother's hurricane lamp and an antique mirror. I decided that was the last bath they would have at my house. We have a wonderful groomer that will give a great bath and nail clip for only $15. A fantastic bargain if you ask me. We have always used a rubber type bath mitt (with rubber bristles) during the bath along with the shampoo and conditioner and it really gets tons of dead fur out. Our dobies seem to have sensitive skin so we have always added an "Aveeno Oatmeal Bath" packet to the warm bath water as it is so soothing (there is a generic oatmeal bath available too). We use a rubber brush between baths to help eliminate some fur. Also, wiping them down with a dry dryer sheet occasionally between baths makes them smell wonderful and leaves a beautiful shine.

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    For dobies with sensitive ears

    One of my dobes has super-sensitive ears, and he can get into a scratching frenzy until he makes his ears bleed. This is what we have found to be very helpful: each day we wash/wipe his ears thoroughly with a warm wet washcloth (he LOVES this) and use a Q-tip just inside the inner ear creases (NOTE: NEVER stick a Q-tip down into the ear canal) I'm an RN and the Dr. I work for always tells his patients-- don't stick anything into your ear except your elbow... After thoroughly washing his ears, we use a dab of hydrocortisone cream (cheap- and available over the counter) and massage that into the inner ear and the outer ear (he LOVES this too). The hydrocortisone cream reduces itching. Also, keeping their claws clipped will help.
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