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post #101 of 176 (permalink) Old 02-17-2008, 12:05 AM
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Julie, how come you feed the whippets only once daily? Just curious. We've met briefly at the WAE. Remember, I have a whippet too, one of the Truman x Jada kids.
It's easier to feed once a day without ever having to disrupt their feeding schedule for training/practice/conditioning/showing etc. Cher is the only one I feed twice a day because of the breeds propensity to bloat, so I have to time her exercise more carefully around her meals, and also bring her breakfast with me every Saturday so she can eat after she tracks.

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Then we are related I bred Jada's dad, and I also bred to Truman years ago.

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My black female Mia gets 2 cups in the morning of Natural Balance Duck and Potatoe (she has had food allergies) and then 2 @ night.
My red male Duke gets 2-3 cups of Eukanuba Premium Performance and then 2-3 at night as well.
Then I will throw in the treats like milk bones, bones, or a occasional pig ear. My female LOVES to eat so we have to make sure not to feed her too much at a time.
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• What is the daily menu for your Doberman’s diet? (Kibble, wet food, raw, home cooking, etc) and what made you decide to feed this way? Have you fed any other foods prior to your current menu?
Tucker gets 1 cup of Innova Large Breed Puppy food - a dry kibble. I chose this particular food for several reasons.
  1. The quality of the food and ingredients are excellent.
  2. The company uses stringent quality control procedures.
  3. They employ a noted board certified veterinary nutritionist full time.
  4. They are 100% forthcoming about quality control.

I know puppy food isn't popular, so let me explain something... Most choose not to feed puppy food because they feel that it can lead to orthopedic disorders. That is true...to a degree. Essentially, it relates to feeding too many calories, and causing a pup to grow too fast. Aditionally, large breed puppies have different calcium and phosphorus needs. So a puppy food formulated for a large breed dog (i.e. anything over 55# adult weight) has all those factors taken into account, including decreased calories and adjusted Ca/P ratios.

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• How many times a day do you feed them and how much?
I feed one cup at a time, three times per day. I would like him to stay on the leaner side. He's also not a chow hound. If he doesn't eat his food within 15 minutes, it is pulled, and then offered again at normal meal time.

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• Do you give treats? If so, what kind? How many/often do they get treats each day?
I use Butler Large Breed Lean Treats as training treats. They're soft, chewable low-calorie treats that can be easily cut up for training. I would say he gets three whole ones per day (about the size of a camera battery), plus one that is cut up in small pieces for training.

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• Do you add any supplements to your Doberman’s diet? If so, which ones do you give? What made you decide to add supplements?
Tucker gets a blend of essential fatty acids (Borage, Flax, Fish oils) and a Vitamin C/E capsule once daily. I'm giving him the EFAs because the weather here dried out his skin very quickly. The Vit C/E is just to support immune health. I'm not entirely convinced they work, but I am convinced that they can't really hurt.

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• If you feed a super-premium dog food, what made you decide to switch to it? Where did you learn about the super-premium dog food? (word of mouth, internet, friends, vet, etc)
'Super premium' is a moniker made up by elitist pet food brands. Most of those so-called super premium foods have terrible quality control, and don't even have a nutritionist working on formulations. But yes, the food I'm feeding falls into the 'super premium' category as far as Dog Food Analysis is concerned. Though their input is less than valuable to me... I chose the food for the reasons stated above.

I primarily chose Innova because they balance the qualities that I consider important - strong scientific basis, research, quality control, and wholesome ingredients. Most companies can't manage to get all of those. They're great with ingedients, but don't have the science. Or they've got amazing research and formulations, but don't use my favorite ingredients. Natura pet products were the only ones that really met all those standards for me.

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Morning: 2 cups of kibble
Lunch: roast beef or perhaps a little bit of my lunch
Dinner: 4 cups of kibble

I'll have to start adding some oil to her diet since she still looks a bit skinny and her coat is starting to look like an albino (dandruf).

treats: hotdogs. (don't use the hotdogs with cheese, they're messy!)
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• What is the daily menu for your Doberman’s diet? (Kibble, wet food, raw, home cooking, etc) and what made you decide to feed this way? Have you fed any other foods prior to your current menu? Annie gets fed a raw diet. I like to give her a veriety of things such as: beef heart, turkey(ground, necks, backs, and thighs), pork trim, beef, deer, fish, rabbit, tripe, ostrich(ground, nuckles, heads,and legs), chicken quarters,and her favorite lamb heads. Before raw she ate Evo mixed with Eagle pack.

• How many times a day do you feed them and how much? I feed 2 times a day unless she has a big meal. Annie gets feed about 2.5lbs a day.

• Do you give treats? If so, what kind? How many/often do they get treats each day? She gets a bit of what ever I am eating as a treat.

• Do you add any supplements to your Doberman’s diet? If so, which ones do you give? Annie get ACV, fish oil, vit E, vit C, kelp, and prozyme.
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Cleo must eat Canine ID (1 cup dry and 1/2 cup wet) twice a day. This is because when she was on Beneful Puppy food, she would have colon spasms and diarrhea all over the house. She can't help it. Now, she can't even have too many rawhide chews (more than three a week) because the bacteria will make her do it again. I learned it the hard way!
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I give Dax 2feedings per day...one cup in the morning and 1 cup in the evening(pro-plan salmon and rice) during the year but before competition when the training becomes more intense he gets pro-plan active for a month.
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I used to feed Karma that Blue Buffalo dog food, I thought it was great, I was really impressed with the ingredients... nothing was meal or by product or anything and it listed things that made me consider eating it!! But I have to satisfy Karma and the Italians... and the lil guys didnt like it. That and it did give Karma insane gas!!! Now I feed Avoderm Lamb Meal... not crazy about the meal part... but everybody likes it, seems safe for any possible allergies and theres no more gas and its a pretty good rated food for a good price. That and getting it is convenient at Petsmart!

I like the Missing Link Supplement, I have been giving it to her since I got her and it does great things for her coat I think. I recommend it to others people whose dogs coat are kind of flat colored and it has made a difference with their dogs as well.

As for treats, when I can make it to a "feed" store, I like to get their bisquits, they are big and are made from good ingredients. I also like the bag of bones from Sams Clubs... not to crazy about rawhide, but the hide is so thick, that Karma cant really get to far with them when she chews them. So they last forever and I dont really have to worry about her eating so much rawhide.

Table scraps!?!? Absolutely not.
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mine get bad gas with chicken ,but have changed to proplan complete and they said that my dogs would be able to eat the chicken as the way the food is made they were right so all three flavours are ok for them .all my dogs have table left overs but cut down on there kibble,and treats of biscuits and marrow bones from our local butcher which they all love.
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Wow! This has been a fascinating read. My admiration goes out to everyone for all of their efforts to find the right diet for our faithful companions. I free feed my now 17 month old Dobie sibs. They have shiny healthy coats, excellent energy, and have pleasant breath and no doggy odor.

They eat kibble. I have 2 food towers.
Variety. Variety.
Canadae All Life Stages is a staple for all 3 dogs (Shi-Tzu too.) 1 tower usually has this in it.
Innova Large Breed is in tower 2 right now. It might be Wolf King or Another premium brand, large breed.

My idea of a premium brand is to start by looking for a food that is wholly produced from ingredients from "human grade" processing facilities. I usually look to the website Evergreen Pet Supply. I go to a local store that carries a lot of the good stuff that evergreen reps. When you feed with less filler like the brands I've mentioned, you have less mass, and less messy poop to clean up. It's a great payoff for spending a bit more. The waste here goes into a Doggie Dooley so reduced quantity is
a welcome benefit.

In one month, my dogs consume together, approximately 75 lbs of kibble. A trip to the dog store means 2 bags of kibble and usually about 4 cans of canned food for really special treats. I like to choose from Merrick, Halo and Canadae but my dogs just say BRING IT ON!!! My bill is usually between $100 - $120.

They eat all fruits, lots of veggies, anything that's not on the no-no list. Treats are what my dogs live for! All healthy brands okay at home. Darford mini-cheese biscuits (from B.C.) are a fave. Jerky from Natural Dog Treats : : Healthy Dog Treats For Your Dog's Well Being : : DOGSWELL is a big tailwagger too. Treats from well meaning friends are never turned down.
If we have Salmon, they do too. Filet mignon. Same goes. They get a little piece each of the healthiest thing on our plates every meal in front of them. They know this and sit politely, trying so hard to look away until the last bite is taken.

They just pick and nibble on their kibble throughout the day and have never eaten beyond their fill since we started feeding this way at approx. 12 weeks old.

No picky eaters, lots of variety and food always available works for us.

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2 year old 70 lb. spayed bitch, high level of exercise:

Evo Ancestral Diet (kibble) 1.25 cups 2x/day
Evo Ancestral Diet (wet) 1 tblsp 2x/day
1 fish oil capsule 2x/day

Treats: Solid Gold jerky. Sea Jerky. Merrick Pig Hearts (discontinued, much to our disappointment).

We periodically change kibble and quantity depending on formula. Most recently she's eaten Orijins and Nature's Variety.
She is often on antibiotics for pyoderma issus, and when that happens we add non-fat yogurt to the diet.

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I should update this. Almost right after I posted in December we switched over to the Innova Evo and both dogs are doing great on it.

Our store started carrying the Merrick "BG" (before grain) and it sounded really promising, but within a few weeks of feeding it, I could see both of their gloss factors go way down, some flaky skin starting and loose stool, so that's totally disappointing. They're now back on the Evo and looking great again.

I've heard the "BG" has too many potatoes in it and that's why it's not doing very well in the reviews. Has anyone else ever tried it?

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I was feeding Roxy Canidae but they switched their formulas and I am no longer comfortable using that brand. I feed
Roxy 2X a day AM and PM Dry Kibble Orijen mixed with water 2 cups (1 cup per feeding) along with Evengers wet
1/3 cup per feeing. She gets whatever fruit I am eating at that time. All my Dobes loved fruit, apples, peaches, plums,
pears, oranges and especially watermelon. Sometimes I wonder who is eating more of the fruit her or me. When I am
cooking with carrots or peppers (red, orange) she gets some also. Celery is small doses as she likes this but only when
the mood stricks her.
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I have never given any of my Dobes supplements and their coats have always looked great along with their health.
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Theia eats a raw diet from chicken, turkey, beef, lamb and fish.
She gets two meals a day. One meal is about 1/4 pound of meat (muscle meat an organs), mostly with bones and 1/4 pound of vegetables, cottage cheese and oil. Sometimes an egg. Her diet varries from day to day.
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My Dobie and my Boxer have been on Solid Gold since Valentine's Day, They LOVE LOVE LOVE IT. (My Boxer is a VERY picky eater, and she also has some skin issues with certian food) When you open the bag, the food actually smells good! It doesn't smell like dog food yuck. I will for sure be ordering more of their food, and switching to their treats as well. I am really happy with the food so far, and their coats are looking prettier every day.
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We feed our boy Innova (Large Breed Puppy Food)....we initially had him on the EVO but I think it was a bit much for his system so we switched him over to the reg Innova and then figured due to his age (8 mnths) to due the Innova puppy....

We will eventually switch him over to either the reg Innova Adult food or maybe try to go back to the EVO maybe when he is a year or year in half not sure on exact age yet.

Feed him twice a day (morning / night) about 2 1/4 cups each meal....would like to do some natural diet as well but have not done so.....

Treats: usually just mother hubbard bones (all natural)...sometimes a pig ear / ham bone and most of all his favorite treat CHEESE

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I've rated a few things there, but boy they have quite the crowd.
Someone even took the liberty to leave me a sarcastic comment on my Evo review....
Innova EVO Dog Food - Reviews on RateItAll
Apparently I'm not being realistic by feeding that, so I should switch to something like Iams to save money.....

The poor Dobes are really getting slammed in the dog section too...

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• What is the daily menu for your Doberman’s diet?

2 cups Pro Plan Selects Salmon and Brown Rice, 1/2 Cup Selects Salmon Wet

and what made you decide to feed this way? Have you fed any other foods prior to your current menu?


just using the recommended amount listed on the bag. Fed Canidae ALS before the ingredient change.

• How many times a day do you feed them and how much?

2x a day, 2 1/2 cups per serving.

• Do you give treats? If so, what kind? How many/often do they get treats each day?

natural baked biscuits, liver treats, hot dogs for training. He loves ice cream, usually that's a once a month thing

• Do you add any supplements to your Doberman’s diet? If so, which ones do you give? What made you decide to add supplements?


K9 Show Stoppers, K9 Show Stopper by Animal Naturals, Fish Oil Capsules 2 per day. Started adding supplements after he was diagnosed with demodactic mange. The show stoppers has helped to really fill out his coat, after the antibiotics took care of the mange.
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• What is the daily menu for your Doberman’s diet?

Canidae ALS as main food. Once in a while he'll get a home cooked meal.

*and what made you decide to feed this way? Have you fed any other foods prior to your current menu?

After reading various ratings on dog food, this one seems to be consistently good with others. Fed from day one @ home.

• How many times a day do you feed them and how much?
3x a day, 1 1/2 cups per serving.

• Do you give treats? If so, what kind? How many/often do they get treats each day?

All natural Peanut butter, ice cubes, Zen doggy treats, chicken strips, turkey bacon, pig ears and bully strips.

• Do you add any supplements to your Doberman’s diet? If so, which ones do you give? What made you decide to add supplements?

Chlorophyll, fish oil 2 caps a day.
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my mixed breed(not dobe mix) was eating Pedigree. I wasn't very in tune with the pet food quality issues until I began volunteering with the local Dobe rescue. My dog, at the time, was 12, and not doing real good. Her hair was constantly falling out, bad skin, sluggish. The lady that runs the rescue suggested I switch her to Solid Gold. So, I did. I, also, added some seameal to her diet. I can honestly say that I don't think my girl would have made it as long as she did, without the change of food, to Solid Gold. About two weeks into the complete food change, her hair began growing back. Her skin cleared up, and she became a new girl. I was amazed. She lived until the first week of this past September, when I had her humanly put down. She was 16 years old. So, there is a lot to be said for good quality dog foods.

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Does anyone feed Bravo? It is raw and I am thinking about starting my two on it. It was described as being like Abady without the supplements. Currently we feed ProPlan Salmon as our girl has a sensitive stomach.
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Does anyone feed Bravo? It is raw and I am thinking about starting my two on it. It was described as being like Abady without the supplements. Currently we feed ProPlan Salmon as our girl has a sensitive stomach.
I used to feed my chihuahuas Bravo. I switched them to Nature's Variety Raw after awhile because it's a little less expensive. I also like to switch up my raw foods for variety.

Right now I've found a supplier (a farm) that sends me whole ground rabbit, goat, and duck. They also send me beef tripe, sometimes I also feed chicken hearts. Then for bones to chew on.. I throw in chicken necks and the occasional cornish hen or quail for them to keep their teeth clean.

Before raw, I fed Evo. But I've been feeding raw for a few years now and I won't go back to kibble.
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