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post #51 of 176 (permalink) Old 05-28-2006, 10:41 PM
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Max eats mostly kibble. He was on Solid Gold's Wolf King, but he is getting over weight so we just switched to Solid Gold's Barking At The Moon which is the lose weight food.

Once in a while we give him AFS Freeze Dried Meat Patties http://www.animalfood.com/d0005/index.htm
but they are kind of pricey.

He also gets glucosimine due to his leg we got surgery on.

The food we just put out in the morning, 2 & 1/2 cups & let him eat it when he wants. Sometimes he eats it all at once, but most of the time, he eats a few mouthfuls & then leaves it to eat more later.
HI WELL MY DUKANE EATS 2 CUPS IN THE MORNING AND 1 1/2 AT SUPPER TIME AND HE GET HIS TREATS DURNING THE DAY. HE ALWAYS WANTS TO EAT AND HE IS A BEGGER . I HAVE TO STOP GIVING HIM HIS TREATS OH YES DUKANE IS GETTING WAY TO FAT HE WEIGHS 96 LBS I KNOW MY VET WILL BE MAD AT ME I WALK HIM SOME TIMES ITS HARD FOR ME TO WALK HIM HE WALKS NICE FOR ME BUT I HAVE A BAD BACK. SO I JUST LET HIM RUN IN BACK YARD MY NEIGHBORS ARE SO SCARED OF HIM. I HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE WITH HIM OR HE WILL START BARKING BAD HE ALWAYS WANTS TO BE BY ME HE'S MOMMY BOY HE IS SO SMART WE ALL LOVE HIM.

MOMMIE ALWAYS MISS DUKANE

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HI WELL MY DUKANE EATS 2 CUPS IN THE MORNING AND 1 1/2 AT SUPPER TIME AND HE GET HIS TREATS DURNING THE DAY. HE ALWAYS WANTS TO EAT AND HE IS A BEGGER . I HAVE TO STOP GIVING HIM HIS TREATS OH YES DUKANE IS GETTING WAY TO FAT HE WEIGHS 96 LBS I KNOW MY VET WILL BE MAD AT ME I WALK HIM SOME TIMES ITS HARD FOR ME TO WALK HIM HE WALKS NICE FOR ME BUT I HAVE A BAD BACK. SO I JUST LET HIM RUN IN BACK YARD MY NEIGHBORS ARE SO SCARED OF HIM. I HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE WITH HIM OR HE WILL START BARKING BAD HE ALWAYS WANTS TO BE BY ME HE'S MOMMY BOY HE IS SO SMART WE ALL LOVE HIM.
I know what you mean. Max doesn't really beg, but he sits & looks at you the entire time you are eating. When we got him he was about 85 pounds. The vet said that was good, but he could stand to lose 5 pounds. Well instead of losing, he gained, so he is about 90 & every time we think he's losing, he is the same. That is why we switched food.

We take him for about a 1 hour walk every day, but the last few days it was very hot, so we cut it short. Max only barks at people who walk by if they have dogs. He likes people, but people are intimidated by him. Some people even ask if he's a rottweiler.
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lol..someone at the lake asked me if Sabot was a "chocolate" doberman...I cracked up

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I feed my 5 csj lamb & rice ( as chicken give bad wind ) 500grams a day as two meals mixed with raw tripe fresh from a farmer we know ,treats they have frolics and bonios . they all have garlic capsules for the fleas ,willow has propalin as has a bladder problem ,mitch has glusomine as is elderly .changed as a freind is an agent for csj and the price is good .
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What is the daily menu for your Doberman’s diet? (Kibble, wet food, raw, home cooking, etc) and what made you decide to feed this way? She gets kibble and sometimes wet. I decided to do it this way mainly because i didnt want my doberman use to eat human food and begging and also because if i got her use to not eating human food then when my room mates tried to give her human food i would know. Peanut Butter is the only exception.
Have you fed any other foods prior to your current menu?No
How many times a day do you feed them and how much?twice a day and she gets a 24 ounce scoop of kibble. If its wet food 1 big can per meal.
Do you give treats?Oh my word yes
If so, what kind?Training treats, raw hides, and biscuits
How many/often do they get treats each day?once or twice depends on the dogs mood. Example trinity is afraid of her cone collar so what i do is everytime i come home and take the collar off i give her a treat i also think its impaortant that if anyone helpped me put it on they must give her a treat as well.
Do you add any supplements to your Doberman’s diet?No
If so, which ones do you give?
What made you decide to add supplements?
If you feed a super-premium dog food, what made you decide to switch to it?I use to feed my dog something but i dont remember the name of it. I switched to it because my dog was getting sick to her stomach from the other kind
Where did you learn about the super-premium dog food? (word of mouth, internet, friends, vet, etc)Internet and Friends (aka Ya'll)

Unfortunately trinity isnt on that type of dog food anymore she just wouldnt eat it. So i switched her back to pedegree Adult small bites. I have even been getting complaments about her coat .

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My two get a wet food called naturediet. I feed this as its completely natural made with top quality ingredients and they absolutely love it. They are fed twice a day. They get treats every day , not too many though! I found a great company that do fish treats. Fish biscuits which are made of fish and rice, and crispy fish skins which they love! I also make liver cake which I cut up into small pieces. When we go to training on a Wednesday they get either liver, sausage or a small amount of cheese. Before bed they get a charcoal biscuit which helps settle their stomach.
Abbie has a joint supplement in her tea as she had started getting a bit stiff. I
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My Shiz tzu is on a homemade diet which consists of various meats, oatmeal, cottage cheese, veggies and supplements.
Jasmine is currently on a food called Foundations for puppies. Mixed in with that is Innova puppy. I think the next bag of food I will buy will be a food called Natural GO it is made by the same company that makes Foundations. She also gets cod liver oil from now until April, kelp, vit.C, vit.E a little homemade stew and some fruit twice a week. I feed her 3 times a day, approximately 3 cups a little more if she has been running around all day.
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Sasha gets Wellness Super 5 Puppy Food. Sometimes I mix in Wellness dry puppy with Wellness wet food such as the whitefish and sweet potato or chicken. Once in a while she gets peanut butter, cottage cheese etc. Today I gave her some beef rib bones for a treat. She loves those.
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My dogs eat Canidae dog food. I feed them twice a day. I also give them plain yogurt, cottage cheese, raw eggs occassionally. Sometimes they will get a home cooked meal like ground beef with potatoes, squash or cabbage, or some chicken. During the dry months I supplement with Grizzly Salmon Oil because their skin gets a little dry. For treats they get string cheese, apples, carrots, dog biscuits, plain rice cakes, hot dog, and they also like bully sticks.
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This is what FiFi is working on right now:



Here she is an hour into it:




Since she's a puppy she's fed 3xday, 2 raw meals and the evening meal Innova Large Puppy. Treats are freeze dried liver and venison, chicken feet, and some oter various training treats.
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Kibble 2 cups in the am and 2 cups in the pm

When I make a batch of "Satin Balls" or as we say at my house "Rudi Burgers" he will get one mixed with his kibble in the evening or every other evening. I usually squirt in some vegetable oil and 2 fish oil capsules once a day.

When I got him from the rescue he was on Iams Lamb and Rice.....I have since switched him over to Nutro Lamb and Rice.

I tried the raw diet....no sure if I was doing it right..........he wouldn't eat a thing..........not even the chicken legs let alone the veggies I prepared.

I will also give him meat scraps.....oatmeal.....scrambled egs on occasion....but, whatever people food I give him it goes directly in his bowl....never from my hand. I had a poodle growing up that was the BIGGEST, I MEAN, BIGGEST pest at the dinner table and I'm not going there ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I now can haz a sister?



If you are not fully health testing and titling your Dobermans, I'm not buying. I'm not a sucker for a greeder, back yard breeder or puppy miller. I've done my research......have you???
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Both dogs are fed raw - chicken, beef, fish, offal, bones, cottage cheese and eggs.

Fed twice a day.

Supplemented with Sasha's blend which is a blend of vitamins and minerals to assist active dogs joints (my GSD has hip dysplasia).

Treats are usually stuffed in kongs (dried fish, beef, chicken) with frozen gravy, otherwise they have them emptied in 30 seconds flat.
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Petey is officially on RAW. I have been reading about it since I got him 11 weeks ago....and have now switched him completely. He LOVES RAW MEAT! He puts his nose up at Kibble. I stocked my freezer full of ziploc baggies with all sorts of meats, meaty bones, and innards, I have on order at my Pet shop for Tripe and a a bucket of Preference Honest Kitchens mix for lazy days and others who have to feed my baby boy. I am really excited to see how he does on this diet...he is 5 months old and already 56 pounds of pure muscle. I want only the best for this baby...I just recently lost my two Weimarnaners, one to cancer and the other to epilepsy....I now wonder if better food choices could have bought them more life.

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•What is the daily menu for your Doberman’s diet? (Kibble, wet food, raw, home cooking, etc) and what made you decide to feed this way? Have you fed any other foods prior to your current menu?
Science Diet Large Breed Puppy dry and canned. He was on Nature's Recipe at the breeder's. I feed Science Diet because it's the brand I feed my cats and they've always done well on it. Also, it's convenient because I get a discount through my work.

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•How many times a day do you feed them and how much?
3 times a day:
Breakfast = 1 cup dry and 1 can (5.8oz)
Lunch = 1 cup dry
Dinner = 1 cup dry and 1 can (5.8oz)

I will continue feeding three times a day until he is around 6 months old.

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•Do you give treats? If so, what kind? How many/often do they get treats each day?
Yes, I give treats (his regular dog food kibble since he loves it so much), mainly for training purposes during walks, while practicing commands, etc.

I also use small chewy treats which are very high-value in his eyes for when he does something very well, like sitting for having his ears unposted/posted and cleaned, nails trimmed, teeth brushed, and for not chasing the cats when they walk by.

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•Do you add any supplements to your Doberman’s diet? If so, which ones do you give? What made you decide to add supplements?
No, I do not use supplements.

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•If you feed a super-premium dog food, what made you decide to switch to it? Where did you learn about the super-premium dog food? (word of mouth, internet, friends, vet, etc)
Define super-premium food - the definition could vary depending on who you talk to.



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I don't know if anyone posted this but this is a great site. You can get a review of all types of dog food. From kibble to canned. Also, see where your current dog food is ranked.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/
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Thanks for posting this Dobeguy. I had seen it before but didn't save it. Good info to have.
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Buddy gets Candaie now switching to Eagle Pack Chicken & Rice for something different.I add cooked hamburger,ground turkey,turkey sausage,liver or chicken livers thats just a little bit.Buddy gets 2 cups in the am and 2 & 1/4 cups in the evening. Patches gets Eagle Pack weight reduction food with some meat sprinkles about a teaspoon on her food she gets 1/4 cup in the am & 1/4 cup in the pm still over weight???.Treats Ivo biscuits.
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Check the ingredients, you won't find a "good" food at Walmart, I've looked at the Maximum for cats before just to check the label (yikes). You don't really want to see any corn and grains in the label. Along with labels that may say, meal or by-product. (as primary ingredients anyway.).
Chicken Meal is one of the main ingredients in many of the natura pet products (Innova, Calif. Natural, EVO). Natura has done AAFCO feed trial testing.
more info on www.naturapet.com
AND main ingredient in Canidae ALS www.canidae.com According to their bag and website they have not done AAFCO feed trial testing

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My dogs all eat twice a day kibble - and sometimes canned mixed in. They are all on different foods. My pup is on proplan, my old dog is on Purina JM w/ some canned EN or CV, my middle dog is on either proplan or dry EN (although they just changed the formula). My old girl (14 1/2 yr was on puppy chow/sci diet puppy as a pup, then for several years was on hills d/d and loved it, did great on it, then one day decided she wanted the EN that my boy was on - so she was on that for a while, then tried JM and heard good things about it - she likes it and is doing great for her age.
They also get various dog treats, some table scraps, and rawhides.
My old dog is on Dasuquin, Duralactin, 3v caps and Vit B (for medical cond.)
My middle dog is on 3v caps for mild skin allergies.
Pup - no supplements - was on vit c when younger

Thought about trying my middle dog (boy) on Calif Natural.... but one of the dietary risk factors (purdue study) for GDV was having animal fat in the first 4 ingredients, so that and given his age (7yr), decided against it.
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This is from Timberwolf dog food's website:

..."There are different grades (classifications) of meals however and are graded (classified) by protein content, ash content and price. Some are of very high quality. For example, our lamb meal is imported from New Zealand and is a special low ash high protein (8% ash, 70% protein) lamb meal that we have classified and most of the bone is filtered out (all lamb, chicken, beef meals contain a lot of bone because it’s made from what is left over from cutting away steaks or boneless chicken breast for example). It’s the most expensive and probably the best lamb meal in the country as it’s made from the organs and contains a lot of blood, which gives it a very complete amino acid profile."

Just because something contains meal doesn't make it a bad food. It's the quality of the meal that matters.

Foods that advertise a high "real meat" content have different issues:

"...First, only a handful of mills have the equipment to add meat. Some companies may list meat but actually use meal. Of those that actually can add meat it’s not quite what you would expect. It’s usually mechanically de boned and mixed with water to make a slurry that is pumped into the extruder. The most you can use in a formula is limited to about 30% but can be as little as 3%. What starts out as chicken with 78% moisture is now perhaps 90% moisture cooked down to 10%. That 30% you started out with is now about 3.3% or less dry matter. To get the protein up you must now add corn gluten meal or another protein source. Corn gluten meal is a good protein source, it’s high in the sulfur containing amino acids, but a lot of people (myself included) prefer an animal based protein which means you must add animal meals which means it is not 100% human grade."

Don't be misled into thinking that a food with lots of meal is good either though. The FDA will allow companies to list different meals in a poultry meal mix as long as they know exactly what species are in that mix. They can list "chicken meal, turkey meal" leading you to believe that there is a good quantity of chicken meal as well as turkey meal, when really it is just one amount of poultry meal. You are tricked into believing that the food is more meat-based than it really is.

"If someone tells you they use 1000 pounds of meat per ton that is equal to only 200 pounds of chicken meal or ten percent. "

I actually like meals listed in my foods because the food is generally higher in meat protein. JMHO.
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•What is the daily menu for your Doberman’s diet? (Kibble, wet food, raw, home cooking, etc) and what made you decide to feed this way? Have you fed any other foods prior to your current menu?

All 3 of our dogs get Canidae kibble with some sort of veggie. I started with that to reduce the GR's weight and stayed with it because everyone seems to like it so much. We fed timberwolf prior to this, but it was hard to find a balanced amount to feed because it was too rich for the puppies. I LOVED the food though, and so did the dogs.

I may eventually switch to raw, but living with my parents makes that difficult. When Wonder and I move out, we may reconsider it. We would switch to whole prey model.


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•How many times a day do you feed them and how much?

2 times a day:
Breakfast = 2 cup dry
Dinner = 2 cup dry and some amount of veggies. Whatever looks good that day, really.

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•Do you give treats? If so, what kind? How many/often do they get treats each day?

Wonder is food motivated but picky. Keeping his attention can be tough. I've tried string cheese, cucumbers (he LOVES them), liver, cooked chicken, gimborn liver treats, chunks of biljac, and even the crap treats, like snausages (eeeeeeeeewwwww) and peanut butter drops. He only gets a few daily when training or when I call the dogs in from outside. When we go to class on thursdays, he gets a whole bait bag of natural (somethinorother) lamb roll plus something "interesting."

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•Do you add any supplements to your Doberman’s diet? If so, which ones do you give? What made you decide to add supplements?

Yes. All of our dogs get Ifexx salmon oil (tested for its metal and impurity content) which seems to have really helped Wonder's staph. To balance that, they get 200IE vit E in each meal, as well as 500mg C (also helps with ear cartilage). Everyone also gets Bragg's apple cider vinegar. This has done everything from helping Wonder's staph, to helping our golden's bad breath, to helping with our boxer's UTIs. Our yard looks a ton better too.

Currently, Wonder is also on Durlactin for his hygroma and arnica to help reduce the swelling he gets there from smacking it around. It's working well so far.


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•If you feed a super-premium dog food, what made you decide to switch to it? Where did you learn about the super-premium dog food? (word of mouth, internet, friends, vet, etc)

I tried it upon the suggestion of one of my friends in vet school. After seeing the improvement in my parents' boxer, I was sold from there on.
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i give them complete home made food, i do give them fruits, veg, rice, curd, supplemetns, fish and fish liver oil, beef, lamb,

i do give it as dry as possible though not completely dry
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I posted in 2005 and have just changed to a raw diet. I found a couple who sell it and checked with my vet on their recipe he agreed it was good and have switched. I feed once a day with every so often a raw bone.
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I'm going to update Petey's diet....he has been on Raw for 7 months. He is doing fantastic! Huge muscled boy, full of energy, perfect white teeth, sweet smelling breath and coat. Very happy with the diet.

• What is the daily menu for your Doberman’s diet? Petey is fed Raw, Beef, lamb, pork, chicken, turkey, fish, venison, rabbit, organ meats, and extras like hearts, fresh pig ears, hoaves and what made you decide to feed this way? Tons of research after losing two dogs to cancer and epilepsy. Have you fed any other foods prior to your current menu? We tried 3 types of kibbles and Petey has IBS....he would have cronic loose poops and gas.
• How many times a day do you feed them and how much? Petey at one year old is down to eating a very tiny amount in the AM and his big meal at night...about 2-4 pounds a food a day.
• Do you give treats? Yes lots. If so, what kind? I use natural treats for training, no junk in them, hot dogs, jerkys, and tiny store bought biscuits and soft treats. He also gets snacks of fresh marrow bones, pigs ears and cow hooves. How many/often do they get treats each day? All day long.
• Do you add any supplements to your Doberman’s diet? Yes If so, which ones do you give? Fish oil and vitamin E. What made you decide to add supplements? Be sure he has enough oil to have a good coat.
• If you feed a super-premium dog food, what made you decide to switch to it? Where did you learn about the super-premium dog food? (word of mouth, internet, friends, vet, etc) I tried the top brands....nothing helped the boys IBS issues. His bowels only became normal after switching to raw.

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