[OliviaB]

Okay, so after thinking about everything, I'm not leaving. The training thread got out of control and I was really shocked at how rude and honestly mean some people were. The majority of you were incredibly supportive though and I do value all opinions...even those that were against sending him to training. If you took the time to write out an honest opinion that was NOT meant to be rude or sarcastic, THANK YOU. We've decided to go with private lessons, and the strong opinions of those of you against boarding/training weighed heavily into that decision.
The issues I had were with those who implied that I shouldn't have gotten him to begin with (off topic and not part of the question), the person who felt the need to post my trainer's personal info after I specifically said I didn't want it posted publicly, and then of course the rude question of if I intend to send my children off to boarding school too.
I welcome and value all opinions, but a lot of what was said was extremely hurtful, and I still find it very pathetic that someone actually took the time to look up the trainer's info and post it...that still blows me away. I challenge that person to post their personal info on here for everyone to know since they think it's so funny
Anyways, overall this forum has been very supportive and fun to be a part of. I'm not going to let a few rude comments ruin it for me. I need this forum because it is best for Gunner for me to have access to the huge amount of knowledge here. Again, to those who took the time to write out well meaning opinions, THANK YOU. Gunner will not be sent away and if I have to be outside at 2 AM in the morning working on training, so be it. I love this dog and I will do anything for him.

 

[Toby'shuman]

My old mum used to say, "Good manners cost you nothing but they enrich those around, so spend, spend, spend."
I am so :emo11: some folk were rude to you, there really is no need, just because they do not agree with something you say is no reason to be unpleasant.
Good luck with your dog and his training. :kiss:

 

[Beaumont67]

Welcome back OliviaB...you have made the best decision, for your fun loving Gunner.
- private lessons can be a most rewarding experience, for you and your boys
- the training tools & extra dog skills, you absorb now...will be useful your entire life & then free

Cure "avatar" picture...in the spirit of hallowe'en (dobe & pumpkin)
Boo - "don't be scared"...lol

 

[SoCalGirl]

Good luck with the lessons. Let us know how he is coming along!

 

[StarlightDobe]

Im glad that you have made a decision based on what YOU feel is right. And what works best for you and Gunner. I am sorry that someone felt the need to do something specifically against what you wished and had to make public something you wished to be private, but I guess some people just feel the need to be rude and cruel. I hope that your trainer does not suffer any cruelty from the harsh and cruel actions of one spiteful person.
I am also glad you decided to rise above the pettiness of others and stick it out.

 

[ZeldaRules]

Thank you for not dumping your Dobe at a shelter when the going gets tough, so many would have taken the easy way out. I know you really care about your dog and want to honor your commitment to being his protector for life.

 

[Sinister]

glad to hear.

 

[aut_lyn]

Thanks for changing your mind and coming back! I enjoy reading your posts about your family and Gunner and was bummed when I saw your were leaving because of negative responses. So welcome back and doing private sessions will be worth it. When Barrett sees me get his treat pouch and training collar out he gets excited, the nub starts wagging and starts heeling and watching. They enjoy it and you will too, it's a great time to bond. It would also be awesome if you could eventually get your older boy to help out and learn to train too!

:cheesygrin:

 

[TheStig]

Wait...you threatened to leave (the site?) because you asked for honest opinions and you got them?

How old are you again?

I get 'honest' opinions all the time, who cares, really.

I'm glad that people disagree with me and say harsh things...well, some of the harsh things are a bit unwarranted, but nonetheless, I welcome diversity.

Think about how sucky and boring and crappy everyones life would be if nothing but yes men and women roamed about.

There would be no more real housewives show, no more jersey shore, no more rachel zoe project...see what I'm getting at...you girls wouldn't have anything left to watch on t.v. The stupid real housewives, who argue about arguing, then argue some more and think really hard before they go to sleep, so they can dream about arguing...who would watch the show if they got along?

People probably don't want to admit it, but I believe many actually enjoy a good little competition or a chance to 'prove' someone wrong or correct an errant post, etc.

It's just human nature.

I think you just need to sack up a little bit and stop being a drama queen.

And I don't mean that in a bad way.

 

[ZeldaRules]

There would be no more real housewives show, no more jersey shore, no more rachel zoe project...

Where is this utopian society? I want the first ticket there. My generation makes me sick.

 

[Ninabug]

Wait...you threatened to leave (the site?) because you asked for honest opinions and you got them?

How old are you again?

I get 'honest' opinions all the time, who cares, really.

I'm glad that people disagree with me and say harsh things...well, some of the harsh things are a bit unwarranted, but nonetheless, I welcome diversity.

Think about how sucky and boring and crappy everyones life would be if nothing but yes men and women roamed about.

There would be no more real housewives show, no more jersey shore, no more rachel zoe project...see what I'm getting at...you girls wouldn't have anything left to watch on t.v. The stupid real housewives, who argue about arguing, then argue some more and think really hard before they go to sleep, so they can dream about arguing...who would watch the show if they got along?

People probably don't want to admit it, but I believe many actually enjoy a good little competition or a chance to 'prove' someone wrong or correct an errant post, etc.

It's just human nature.

I think you just need to sack up a little bit and stop being a drama queen.

And I don't mean that in a bad way.

Being constructive in giving your advice, and being an a$$hole are two different things. She welcomed constructive advice, and actually chose against the route the she was considering because of that exact advice. She's not upset at the people who were saying no, she was upset at the person (s) that were distasteful and rude about it.

I'm sure that you couldn't be bothered to see what she was referencing though, since you're too busy stirring the pot in just about every other thread.

 

[misha422]

Roflmao, could you be any more desperate for attention? between gunner preventing forest fires, your constant boo hoo about how tough life is, your "Im taking my ball and going home" act yesterday and now your '' I'm back " (like nobody saw that coming) its like somebody wasn't hugged enough as a child. I agree with Stig, grow up and quit being such a drama queen.

 

[melbrod]

Just one big happy family, that's us here at DT!

Dysfunctional, maybe, but still kin. :smileystooges:

 

[Sinister]

Wait...you threatened to leave (the site?) because you asked for honest opinions and you got them?

How old are you again?

I get 'honest' opinions all the time, who cares, really.

I'm glad that people disagree with me and say harsh things...well, some of the harsh things are a bit unwarranted, but nonetheless, I welcome diversity.

Think about how sucky and boring and crappy everyones life would be if nothing but yes men and women roamed about.

There would be no more real housewives show, no more jersey shore, no more rachel zoe project...see what I'm getting at...you girls wouldn't have anything left to watch on t.v. The stupid real housewives, who argue about arguing, then argue some more and think really hard before they go to sleep, so they can dream about arguing...who would watch the show if they got along?

People probably don't want to admit it, but I believe many actually enjoy a good little competition or a chance to 'prove' someone wrong or correct an errant post, etc.

It's just human nature.

I think you just need to sack up a little bit and stop being a drama queen.

And I don't mean that in a bad way.

You need to stop acting like a 15 year old boy, "bro". Some of your posts sound like the jerks in my freshman class.

Roflmao, could you be any more desperate for attention? between gunner preventing forest fires, your constant boo hoo about how tough life is, your "Im taking my ball and going home" act yesterday and now your '' I'm back " (like nobody saw that coming) its like somebody wasn't hugged enough as a child. I agree with Stig, grow up and quit being such a drama queen.

Why don't you stop getting on DT drunk and posting rude things.

 

[Tater927]

Roflmao, could you be any more desperate for attention? between gunner preventing forest fires, your constant boo hoo about how tough life is, your "Im taking my ball and going home" act yesterday and now your '' I'm back " (like nobody saw that coming) its like somebody wasn't hugged enough as a child. I agree with Stig, grow up and quit being such a drama queen.

Nina it was finally because of this person, being an A$$hole. Oh and it's ok to use that term for them because that's how they referred to themselves in their very own post

Thank you, Misha, for coming here and showing us all how to not be childish. This is far more mature than not thanking the right people for posts or taking your ball and going home when someone upsets you. I don't know about everyone else, but if someone basically said to me "I'm going to be an A$$ to you", I would think the mature thing would be to walk away or at least think about it. Maybe Olivia overreacted to want to completely leave because of 1 or 2 people, but she did have people that didn't want her to and told her not to let people like you get under her skin. I wonder how many people would give a darn if you or Stig (don't know what they said as I have them blocked) disappeared from posting.

 

[RedFawnRising]

My comments in blue.

You need to stop acting like a 15 year old boy, "bro". Some of your posts sound like the jerks in my freshman class.

Since the quotes within quotes don't show up, I'll note you directed this to Stig--yup, agreed. Not worth it in that poster's case, as demonstrated over and over and over.



Why don't you stop getting on DT drunk and posting rude things.

And you directed the above to...um, I forgot their username, sorry. Somebody I don't know, but I gotta tell you, calling someone drunk on a public forum is poor form indeed, unless you have some real-life knowledge that's an actual fact.

And here's the thing--I gotta agree with their assessment, if not their delivery of the message.

Olivia, I'm glad you chose to be gracious, at this point, and give consideration and thanks to those folks giving the advice you asked for.

I'm also VERY glad you're committed to your dog, and sincerely hope you can make it all work, in everyone's best interest.

But, I'll admit that the impression you sometimes give is...fairly dramatic. I end up skipping most of your threads, frankly, and I'm so not saying that to be mean, I'm really not. I'm just overwhelmed myself right now and it's not my own personal style to spill all of it in a public venue, so it just doesn't appeal to me.

I know that it's somewhat of a generational thing, and I know people who post on FB when they are going to take a pee or they stubbed their pinky toe--and that's FINE, if other folks want to read it--I'm just too busy and it doesn't appeal to me--again not a criticism, just a set-up for what I'm about to say:

I can see how some folks got the impression of chaos and melodrama, and then got sort of sick of it, last straw and all, when you pulled the silly cloak-and-dagger stuff about your trainer's name.

So, instead of interpreting it all the way some have--I interpreted it as: "Oh c'mon, grow up--the trainer has a public site and tons of people know who she is, and it would only be azzholes who would contact her to bash her."

Now, if I'm wrong in my interpretation, the person who posted that can correct me.

Just pointing out another view of how things may stand--and as we all know, it's all about perception, but I still hate flouncing, and it's disappointing to see flouncers humored and handheld.

Pffft, apologies for the long ramble. I do sincerely wish you and the kiddos and fam and Gunner well.

 

[OliviaB]

Roflmao, could you be any more desperate for attention? between gunner preventing forest fires, your constant boo hoo about how tough life is, your "Im taking my ball and going home" act yesterday and now your '' I'm back " (like nobody saw that coming) its like somebody wasn't hugged enough as a child. I agree with Stig, grow up and quit being such a drama queen.

What's funny is that you actually took the time to look up my trainer's personal information and post it. And you're telling me to grow up?? I'm still waiting for your personal information to be posted here since you think it's so hilarious. And you can be assured that I will pass that personal information on to her so that if she is harrassed, she knows who is responsible. Of course you won't post it because you're nothing but a coward who has nothing else to do all day but sit behind a computer and put other people down. And I'm the one who wasn't hugged enough?? Look in the mirror

To everyone else, thanks. Overall this is a great forum with a ton of supportive people. As the saying goes...there's always one (or two) in every crowd.

 

[OliviaB]

My comments in blue.



And you directed the above to...um, I forgot their username, sorry. Somebody I don't know, but I gotta tell you, calling someone drunk on a public forum is poor form indeed, unless you have some real-life knowledge that's an actual fact.

And here's the thing--I gotta agree with their assessment, if not their delivery of the message.

Olivia, I'm glad you chose to be gracious, at this point, and give consideration and thanks to those folks giving the advice you asked for.

I'm also VERY glad you're committed to your dog, and sincerely hope you can make it all work, in everyone's best interest.

But, I'll admit that the impression you sometimes give is...fairly dramatic. I end up skipping most of your threads, frankly, and I'm so not saying that to be mean, I'm really not. I'm just overwhelmed myself right now and it's not my own personal style to spill all of it in a public venue, so it just doesn't appeal to me.

I know that it's somewhat of a generational thing, and I know people who post on FB when they are going to take a pee or they stubbed their pinky toe--and that's FINE, if other folks want to read it--I'm just too busy and it doesn't appeal to me--again not a criticism, just a set-up for what I'm about to say:

I can see how some folks got the impression of chaos and melodrama, and then got sort of sick of it, last straw and all, when you pulled the silly cloak-and-dagger stuff about your trainer's name.

So, instead of interpreting it all the way some have--I interpreted it as: "Oh c'mon, grow up--the trainer has a public site and tons of people know who she is, and it would only be azzholes who would contact her to bash her."

Now, if I'm wrong in my interpretation, the person who posted that can correct me.

Just pointing out another view of how things may stand--and as we all know, it's all about perception, but I still hate flouncing, and it's disappointing to see flouncers humored and handheld.

Pffft, apologies for the long ramble. I do sincerely wish you and the kiddos and fam and Gunner well.

Thank you for the well wishes. Honestly, I don't really care who reads my stuff. I don't post it for anyone in particular. If I have an honest question or if I'm proud of my dog, I'm going to post it. Read it or don't...it really doesn't matter to me. This is a forum. It's an open place to discuss things and that's what I try to do. If you judge me as being "dramatic" then so be it. I'd rather be judged as dramatic than a rude jerk any day of the week. I am who I am, and I'm okay with that.

 

[Tater927]

I can see how some folks got the impression of chaos and melodrama, and then got sort of sick of it, last straw and all, when you pulled the silly cloak-and-dagger stuff about your trainer's name.

So, instead of interpreting it all the way some have--I interpreted it as: "Oh c'mon, grow up--the trainer has a public site and tons of people know who she is, and it would only be azzholes who would contact her to bash her."

Now, if I'm wrong in my interpretation, the person who posted that can correct me.

Just pointing out another view of how things may stand--and as we all know, it's all about perception, but I still hate flouncing, and it's disappointing to see flouncers humored and handheld.

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I think this is a fantastic other viewpoint and could often be the case. However, given some of Misha's other posts, I would venture to guess that they were indeed just trying to stir things up and be an azzhole.

Just a few snippets of their other comments. I don't know how to quote from other threads directly. These are just from looking at the posts made by them listed in their profile. Oh and the drunk comment Sinister made isn't completely out there as you can see. Drunk or alcohol influenced posts are not only something this person does, but advertises.

"Sigh.... my gf told me just to keep my mouth shut but I'm drunk so here it goes... I understand you love your pup and he's the smartest pup on the planet (we all feel the same about our own) but realistically at 15 weeks your pup doesn't know the difference between his a** from his elbow and chances are his barking was more because he wanted out of his crate, as convincing as it may have sounded... Oh and the spatula... it would've just keep melting not burn you and your belongings to the ground..(been there) but hey great story and Gunner shows alot of potential in bomb sniffing!
your's truly,
DT's drunken a**hole"

"For someone with so many posts and titles I was hoping you'd offer more knowledgeable information.... Misha is doing amazing on 38% Orijen and my vet agrees."

"F that, I attack... I go after their character, their fat a** lab they have and even the car they drive. Maybe next time they'll think twice about giving their unwanted and uneducated opinion.
Disclaimer: all opinions stated are under the influence of a 10 year old bottle of cabernet."

 

[Sinister]

And you directed the above to...um, I forgot their username, sorry. Somebody I don't know, but I gotta tell you, calling someone drunk on a public forum is poor form indeed, unless you have some real-life knowledge that's an actual fact.

I honestly thought that poster had a thread started that went a long the lines of "I'm drunk and posting this, my girlfriend told me not to but I'm going to anyways!" It may have been removed, or I have the wrong poster.

I looked for it and could not find it. With the lack of evidence, I am sorry Misha422.