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Hi all,

I'm looking to find some good winter booties for Radar. I had bought some cheap ones at Fleet Farm while he was in his most recent growth spurt, but they are coming apart, and he has slowed down a bit. I have also noticed that his paw pads are getting kind of dry and cracked. I always wipe down his paws after going on walks (warm water on a clean rag), but not after pottying in the yard. I got some "paw balm", but he HATES it. I think its the smell, or maybe it stings, because usually he is just fine with me touching/messing with his feet, but if I get anywhere near him with the balm (while he's awake, I sneak it on while he's sleeping like a rock) he just tries to get away, and dober-slaps his way to freedom.

I've heard that Ruffwear makes good boots, but they have so many different kinds, I don't know which to choose (or how to size). Any help with that would be much appreciated (by both of us), or any other brands that you guys have had success with are welcome too.

We would mostly be using them for our quick walks around the neighborhood, and for a little bit of playing outside. Neither one of us like the cold, so we don't stay out long. Just looking for something durable, that will stay on his feet and keep the pads from cracking.

Thanks!
 
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Hey radar

IMO the best winter boots are made by Ruffwear. Polar Trex.

They are a company out of Bend OR.

Over the years, we have snow shoed and nordic skied with our guys. We live 50 miles from an 11,000 foot mountain that receives up to 500 inches of snowfall a year. These boots are incredible.

Here is a link: https://ruffwear.com/collections/boots

One caveat. They have pretty good info on how to size them. Still, my advice would be to find a store where you can actually try them on. They also sell them in pairs. I have, in the past found that my boys rear feet were better fit one size smaller than the front ones.

The boot are insulated and are high enough that they stay on. The last pair I bought actually had Vibram soles.

Check it out.

John
Portland OR

Oh.. Their winter coats are also really nice.
 

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Thanks John!

Curious, did you notice that your dogs' feet grew a lot as they matured? Radar already has what I would consider to be mammoth feet, and at $100 a pair I don't want to buy a really nice pair only to have them not fit next time he needs to wear them.
 
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GREAT -- Tread you started Radar ! - I was thinking about asking the same question ! Our weather has been nice for years here in Indiana - I don't think the kids mind the cold as much as there paws getting cold + when they get wet - I think it's sticking to the patio and hurting them - poor girl went out the other night and didn't go 5 feet and came up lame in her left rear leg - then when she came in - she was fine . BIG thanks to 4x4 for posting up the link and his Professional Advice !

Thanks and how is radar love doing : ))

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Hi, so no... after about 6-7 months, my youngest boy stayed in the same coats, booties and vests. At 3 + yo his feet are the same size as they were at 7-8 months. Outerwear is a different story. He has matured, Physically that the coat he was wearing at 2, barely fits him.

He only weighs 4-5 pounds more than he did at 2, but his overall musculature has increased dramatically. Oddly enough he looks leaner at 85 lb. than he did a year or so ago at 80.

Also, canine boots wear out. Not so much the winter style as the street to summer hiking ones. Also they are $100 for al four not a pair. I think that you can buy a pair for $50.

Having used Ruffwear boots for over a decade, I cannot recommend then highly enough.

We had a boy that had a CVI issue as a pup. It was congenital. He wore booties his first year, as he dragged paws. We found Ruffwear to be the best. Today, he is a healthy and happy senior, and his boots are still Ruffwear!

Hope this helps

John
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Also, canine boots wear out. Not so much the winter style as the street to summer hiking ones. Also they are $100 for al four not a pair. I think that you can buy a pair for $50.
Ah! That's what I meant, somehow I forgot that he has four legs...I was thinking in terms of "people" shoes. Oops. I will see if Radar's daycare/groomer/petstore carries any ruffwear that we could try on. Do you know of any chain stores that might have them?

Good to know that the coats last longer than I thought, the daycare I bring Radar to carries "chilly dog" coats, but I was apprehensive about buying one because I don't really know how big he is gonna get. I do know that he is beginning to outgrow his "xl" RealTree coat from Fleet Farm though, so I will have to do something soon, or he is gonna have a chilly butt!


Thanks and how is radar love doing : ))
Radar is doing well! He is getting better with manners, and we are working on solidifying his basic obedience. Some days are better than others, but I've learned that he is much calmer than many dobies, and for that I am super thankful. We spent new years weekend hiding out on the couch for the most part, as it was about -25 both days, and he was just happier than a clam to lay next to me and snuggle. I wish winter would hurry up and be done, because I really want to get his walking down to a science. We haven't been able to go longer than around the block in way too long, and sometimes it's just too cold, so we only go to the end of the block. He loses his mind when we get to the pet store, because all the girls want to love up on him and give him treats (he's a big ladies' man), so it is hard to get him focused enough to go for an "inside walk", or just to do OB in that setting. We are working on it, I'm trying to focus on the small victories. He has been absolutely phenomenal with kids, and I learned a nifty trick in leash walking class to keep him from jumping on them when he gets too excited.

We've been on a two week break from Level 1 OB, so we haven't done any really formal "learning", but we have been working on the basic commands, as well as boundary training ("back"), and targeting. I just found out that my training center added another level of OB that they are calling "1.5", focusing on impulse control. I think that Radar will be taking that class as soon as possible, before we progress onto level two. I am also thinking of adding another "fun" class to our routine, like tricks, or nose work, etc. I'm also getting on a waitlist at a club called "agile canines" in Minneapolis so we can get into a "sports foundation" class. I really think that Radar would love doing agility once he's old enough. It is nice to have more than one day a week in class, so Radar gets tired out and socialized like he should be.

Radar does the same thing when he is outside! Heavily favors one paw (the one I found that is a bit cracked) outside, but is just fine as soon as he walks inside. I need some ideas of other "stuff" I can put on his paws that maybe he won't hate as much. Thinking maybe Vaseline or something.
 

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I highly, highly, HIGHLY recommend the boots sold by Kondos Outfitters. They are a company up in Ely, MN, that makes dog boots for sled dogs. I use them and we've never lost a boot, my dogs both tolerate them REALLY well, and they stay on great, even in deep snow. Good traction, warm...my dogs' feet are warm and dry when I take them off. They are really reasonably priced, too. Best part, if you DO happen to lose a boot or need another, you can buy them singly. I really liked that since Richter's front feet and back feet were different sizes.

I use the Durapaw boots. http://kondosoutdoors.com/shop/dog-booties/
 
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@MeadowCat do you know if Vaseline or similar is safe to put on his feet, to help keep the pads moist/start them healing while I'm waiting on booties? They aren't too bad now, and I want to keep it that way. Don't want the little guy to get too cracked up and dry. The paw balm I got is "unacceptable" for him, even with his favorite treats on hand. I think it is the smell of it. I like it, but he definitely doesn't.


ETA: I checked out the Kondos website but I'm not seeing any size guide. Do you know how to measure for size?
 

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@MeadowCat do you know if Vaseline or similar is safe to put on his feet, to help keep the pads moist/start them healing while I'm waiting on booties? They aren't too bad now, and I want to keep it that way. Don't want the little guy to get too cracked up and dry. The paw balm I got is "unacceptable" for him, even with his favorite treats on hand. I think it is the smell of it. I like it, but he definitely doesn't.


ETA: I checked out the Kondos website but I'm not seeing any size guide. Do you know how to measure for size?
I'm not sure about Vaseline - I don't know if it's safe if they lick it. I use either Musher's Secret or Tuf Foot on my dog's feet. You could also try a very small amount of coconut oil, which would be safe to eat and is moisturizing.

The link to the size chart is on the bottom of the page - it's hard to see. It's here: Sizing Charts - Kondos Outdoors. I found the best way to measure is to have your dog stand on a piece of paper and trace his foot, then you can measure the tracing. I'd measure a back and front, just to be sure (like I said, Richter's front and back took different sizes). You might need to leash him and have someone hold the leash and just give him cookies to distract him so he stands still while you do a quick trace.
 

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@MeadowCat do you know if Vaseline or similar is safe to put on his feet, to help keep the pads moist/start them healing while I'm waiting on booties? They aren't too bad now, and I want to keep it that way. Don't want the little guy to get too cracked up and dry. The paw balm I got is "unacceptable" for him, even with his favorite treats on hand. I think it is the smell of it. I like it, but he definitely doesn't.


ETA: I checked out the Kondos website but I'm not seeing any size guide. Do you know how to measure for size?
We use a human product made by Burt's Bees. Miracle Salve. I use it on me and I use it on McCoy's feet and his "lick spots" when he suddenly decides to flank suckle. I also put it on his nose when he rubs some skin off from rooting.

Here is a link: https://www.burtsbees.com/product/miracle-salve/165-999.html

A small tin lasts ($6-$7) lasts forever. Oh.... And it doesn't smell. McCoy never even notices it when I put it on him.

Hope this helps

John
Portland OR

Edit to say: All the ingredients are considered human edibles.

Oh, I almost forgot they also make a product called Res-Q Ointment. Here is a review from someone who used it on their dog:

Reviews
5 out of 5
GREATEST PRODUCT EVER!
DECEMBER 6, 2017
JenRS
From:Myerstown, PA
Age: 45 - 54
My Skin Is: Oily
I first purchased this product after a vet suggested we find something more natural for healing wounds on our dog. The "chemical" products would make him sick if he licked the product off his wound. This was the miracle....it was a faster healer than that nasty stuff and and didn't make the dog sick if he licked it. Now we use it on everything from the dog, to zits, to cuts and scrapes. I have turned so many people onto this product I've lost count. My latest is a co-worker that had the same issues with a pet. He said this product (which I have affectionately coined "boo-boo juice") healed his dog's head wound in one day. I will give it as gifts again this Christmas because it's just that good!
 
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