They look blue to me vs fawn.
What color is this newborn?
My friend is a doberman breeder and her fawn doberman just had a litter of doberman puppies. I went over to visit her and took a look at her puppies and she said she had four black and 6 fawn. I thought the "fawn" puppies looked blue, especially next to the fawn mother. They had a silver look to them. I am sure she knows more than me, but am I right or is she?
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Ooops. That's what I get for trying to say two different things at the same time.
Anyway, to clarify, the genotype of a black pup produced by a fawn parent can be only black #4/BbDd. The genotype of a blue pup produced by a fawn parent can be only blue #6/Bbdd.
As for the rest of what I was driving at, I reconsidered it and decided it was probably too pedantic and hypothetical to be of interest. So, never mind!
I don't think I'd be so quick to make that judgement. If you've never seen a newborn fawn or blue Dobe puppy and you don't have a pretty clear understanding of how the genetic color heredity of a Dobe works you might not recognize blue from fawn if the litter didn't have at least one of each color.She doesn't even know the correct color of her puppies? Wow, just what our breed needs
If you've got both blues and fawns you can tell the difference immediately but if you only have one of the dilute colors and you've never seen it before on a newborn you might not.
I know a breeder who had nearly 30 years experience breeding and who was breeding some pretty nice dogs and who had been mentored by a couple of people who were very knowledgeable. She'd never had a dilute puppy born from any of her breeding. I got a call when the daughter of a dog I owned whelped a litter of red and black puppies and one dilute bitch. The breeder of my dog (who was also pretty knowledgeable couldn't decide if it was blue or fawn) had also never seen a newborn blue or fawn.
They called me and I told them the same thing that I said earlier on this thread--"fawns when dry and newborn are the color of a cardboard box--blues are distinctly blue and usually a light slate color."
It was a blue.
And it was only a fluke that the dilution, which was there in the form of a blue male nearly 10 generations back hadn't popped up before. But if you happen to be breeding your bitches who were carrying the dilution gene to dogs who didn't you can definitely figure you don't have dilution in your lines 'cause you've never seen it.
Now of course, if anyone is all that concerned about the possibility of getting dilute colors can gene test for color and avoid the possibility of dilution entirely.
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