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I need help on walking Sheba. When i take her out on retractable leash she does good unless she sees another dog or cat she takes off pulling me. She does not listen to me, but when shes in the house she stays with me. what kind of collar, or halter do i need to have control of her when walking?
 

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How old is Sheba?

I personally never, ever recommend retractable leashes to people before their dog is properly trained to walk on a loose leash. I am not a big advocate of retractables at the best of times, but especially not before a puppy even knows how to walk politely. Retractable leashes pretty much always have some tension so the dog never understands that the leash should be completely relaxed. Buy a 4-6ft leather leash (easier on the hands than nylon once broken in - JJ dog supply has leashes that pretty much come soft)

She doesn't listen to you off your property because the outside world is more exciting. Most dogs go through this and it takes work to make them believe you're more exciting and worth listening to. I would start by getting her enrolled in an obedience class if you haven't done so already, but also work on loose leash walking in your yard and once you've obtained the behaviour you're looking for, gradually start going further. I taught mine to walk nicely on a martingale collar (not for training purposes, but so I didn't have to worry about the slipping out), a clicker, and loads of treats and praise. I also would quickly turn around and stop when they did pull and reward as soon as they get back to my side. Initially you aim for a couple of steps (click or mark with "yes" & treat) of puppy beside you and paying attention, and gradually increase distance. I did eventually use a prong collar on both of my dogs, but not until they were quite a bit older (around 10 months I believe) and by then they knew what was expected of them, but they liked to push buttons and now knew that they could easily out pull me. But like I said, that was after they knew what I expected of them. There are a million different ways to teach a dog, but my preference is for showing them and rewarding them positively first and then correct once they know something solidly but are blowing you off (and reward when they get it right again). Not everyone agrees with corrections at all and would never advocate the use of a prong collar, but my belief is that sometimes such training tools are needed depending on the dog (my toller was trained completely on a flat collar, but the dobes needed a little more for some things). But I would never suggest one to a dog that is under about 7-8 months old.

If you'd like also, there is something called a Premier Easy Walk harness that might assist you in teaching her to walk on a loose leash right now. That way she'd have less power to pull you over as the leash clips to the front and turns the dog around when they pull, rather than giving them leverage to pull further. I am not sure how well they work for real pullers, but I have two for my dogs that I use on long hikes/walks when I just want to relax and not remind them to keep a loose leash the whole time. They know how to walk on collars too, but the harnesses are easier for long distance on leash on me and them when I am walking everyone together. Head halters are not recommended for Dobermans, and to be honest, I don't really like them for any dog. Too much potential for neck injuries IMO.

Others will probably have differing opinions as everyone trains a little bit differently. But the point is that you need to show her what you expect first and reward heavily when she gets it right, and get the behaviour solid, before you can expect to take her for long walks while she politely walks with you. Loose leash walking can be one of the most time consuming behaviours to teach a dog. It definitely takes a lot of effort for most dogs.
 

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I use a retractable leash. I can see the issues that would come along with it. Since you can lock it at a certain length I wonder if the dog gets confused with how far it can walk, however, this shouldn't matter when you ask it to heel.

I use a gentle leader when Lexi decides she doesn't want to listen to me when I ask her to heel, and she heels 100% every time with it on (although she's not quite as happy using it). But, you still need to be careful when other dogs approach. If Lexi has the gentle leader on and someone elses dog comes around I will hold Lexi by her collar, incase she decides to forget what's on her head and try to pull, which could hurt her neck. If she tries to pull towards other dogs with her normal collar on I will simply hold onto her and ask her to sit, she will not be allowed to say hello until she has calmed down. This makes other people think that Lexi is aggressive. :)

I use a clicker, treats, and lots of praise. But it's still a work in progress. I should have started earlier, and been more consistent. Anyhow, I will correct her with a minor yank only when she gets to the end of her leash, yet continues to pull, or if I have to quickly get her away from eating something she shouldn't. Also, I change it up and will walk in the opposite direction as well, this ends up in zig-zag walking all over the place. You want to lead the walk, not the dog.

As Tollers-n-Dobes said, Making sure the dog is paying attention to you is definately key, and it's not something that you will teach it over night. Be patient and consistent.
 

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I use the Premier Easy Walk harness and it has worked the best for us, along with a 6' leash.

Someone did ask me though, if harnesses will cause any shoulder development issues? I'm hoping that once Duke learns to walk properly, the answer is no...but IS there any harm being done in the meantime during his growth?
 

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I would dump the retractable leash (forever) and put the pup in a martingale collar on a regular leash (5 or 6 feet in length - I prefer leather). Take a look at kikopup's videos on teaching loose leash walking with a clicker on her youtube channel: kikopup - YouTube
 
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I started using a harness, made by Sporn for Bella(18 weeks old) a few weeks ago, and it works very well for us. She has pretty much completely stopped pulling. Every now and then she'll forget, but then the harness tightens and she immediately stops. Now, if I could just get her to stop attacking my feet and pant legs I'd be ecstatic:D
The thing I like about it is that it has stretchy elastic that criss crosses her chest, as well as very soft covers over the straps in her "arm pit" area, so no skin irritation there.
Good luck :) I hope you find something that works well for you.
 

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I'm going to chime in with dump the retractable leash. I use a 6 ft leash and a sensation harness with puppies. It protects their necks better than a head collar (like a GL, etc.) and they still can't pull. They can however spin in circles to try pulling so you still need to train but it's a good tool for in between when you want to just walk and not train every single second. They can't practice pulling with it on.
 

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Thanks to all of you, i bought Sheba a new halter and leash and it so much easier to walk her. Now i need to teach her to come to me when i call. I let her run loose some but she doesnt listen when i call her.
 
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