velmadobe said:probably several do but most will never even know it. Most Dobermans who are affected are not clinically affected and it will never be a problem.
Velma is a carrier by vetgen
Louise is a clear by vetgen
No thank heavens,luckily the breeders i go to tend to produce unaffected dogs by selection.luvmyoakley said:Does anyone here have a pup w/ Von Willebrands?
People can be suspended if there's a conviction from their local court system for cruelty. Other than that, the only way someone can be suspended is if they fail to follow the AKC guidelines about recordkeeping. The AKC is a registry, nothing more.luvmyoakley said:is there aNYTHING someone can do about a person like this... who are breeding registered dogs with health problems? I would think the AKC could suspend registering pups from them or something?
The latest estimate I saw (from 2005) suggests around 26% of all dobermans are vWD affected. So it's certainly not uncommon. One of my dogs is affected..he's never had any kind of clotting difficulty, which is usually the case.luvmyoakley said:I was just wondering how many dobermans vwd affected... dont know a whole whole bunch about it..
Same here.brumwolf said:No thank heavens,luckily the breeders i go to tend to produce unaffected dogs by selection.
European dobermans appear to have a far lower rate of vWD than dogs from American lines, so it's certainly been easier to obtain a vWD clear doberman from this genepool. That's not uncommon with isolated genepools, and it works both ways..American dogs have a much lower rate of HD, and virtually NO issues with eyes.brumwolf said:No thank heavens,luckily the breeders i go to tend to produce unaffected dogs by selection.
I agree. I also think it's true with affected dogs who have never had any kind of clotting issue in the past. Over and over again we see vets getting owners all worked up and worried, and paying ridiculous prices for minor surgical procedures, just because the dog is genetically affected, but asymptomatic.dobebug said:Vets that refuse to do surgeries on carrier dogs and clear dogs without extraordinary measures like whole blood transfusions etc have not done their homework. What would make much more sense would be for them to do a clotting test (there are a couple of very common ones) the day of the surgery to make sure the dog is clotting normally on THAT day,.
It infuriates me to read about vets who charge enormous prices to neuter carrier males or spay clear bitches. Unfortunately I hear about it all too often.
Dobes have Type 1 vWD--a very mild form of the disorder. Scotties have Type 3 and for them Affected would be a virtual death sentence.
Dobes have been spayed and neutered, had their ears cropped, had their tails docked and dew claws removed, had holes in their hides stitched up in the past with very FEW incidences of bleed outs. That was before vWD was identified. For the record an older dog with any sort of liver problem is more likely to have bleeding issues than an older dog who is affected by gene test (but who does not have a history of being clinically affected.
GRRRR!!!!! Just makes me grit my teeth when I hear about someone paying $900 for a neuter on a clear male pup.
BTW, just wanted to mention that I've never shyed away from spending the big bucks on vet care for animals when it's *warranted*. For the last six months I've been doling out close to $700/mo for meds and bloodwork on a dog with a liver problem, no end to that in sight, either..this might go on the rest of his life, which I hope is a good long time. And just last year I spent close to $10,000 treating a mini donkey with a life threatening disease. So when the situation truly calls for exteme measures (and dollars), I'm there, without a word of complaint.Murreydobe said:But there was no way I was going to pay to have cryo flown in for a neuter on a dog that had no history of clotting problems and had a normal BMBT on the day of the surgery.
Well, everyone has to work within their own comfort levels.luvmyoakley said:I paid around $1100.00 for Oak's ears to be cropped and for her to be spayed (and I had her microchipped)... but that's because they charged me an arm and a leg for the plasma... the vet had just told me a story, right before Oaks surgery was scheduled, about a doberman pup they had just done who they almost lost due to VWD... I knew that I wanted to have the test done... that was very important to me.. but i dont know that i would have went about the surgery as i did... (plasma transfusion) etc. if he hadn't told me that story.. I trusted him and his decision because i wanted to make SURE my little girl was going to be ok... oh well, doesn't matter now because it's done and she's very healthy, however i might have done things a bit different after reading all of this... too bad I discovered you all a little too late but I VERY much appreciate all of the info!!!