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So, as Im sure you guessed I dont know the breeder I want to go with.

I think I have decided to stick with a show breeder and not get into the working lines. I want to be put on a waiting list in 1yr. Hopefuly purchase aroun 2yrs from now. Here is a list of breeders Im looking at. Please give your honest opinion, and if you think there is a breeder you know of in Canada or the US that you like as far as show lines please feel free to add it.

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http://www.phillmardobermans.com/index.html < I really like X-static. Mostly because he is by Lex Luther, who is Great, Great granpa of Jazz :)

http://www.cambriadobes.com/ <Produced the Westminister BOB Raisin. A little $$$ but I like some of their dogs

http://www.amondedobermans.com/ <Florida so probably $$$

http://www.foxfiredobermans.com
 

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JennSLK said:
So, as Im sure you guessed I dont know the breeder I want to go with.

I think I have decided to stick with a show breeder and not get into the working lines. I want to be put on a waiting list in 1yr. Hopefuly purchase aroun 2yrs from now. Here is a list of breeders Im looking at. Please give your honest opinion, and if you think there is a breeder you know of in Canada or the US that you like as far as show lines please feel free to add it.

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http://www.phillmardobermans.com/index.html < I really like X-static. Mostly because he is by Lex Luther, who is Great, Great granpa of Jazz :)

http://www.cambriadobes.com/ <Produced the Westminister BOB Raisin. A little $$$ but I like some of their dogs

http://www.amondedobermans.com/ <Florida so probably $$$

http://www.foxfiredobermans.com
Well...to be honest, I think you need to concentrate on the puppy you're about to get for awhile before you start worrying about what dog you're going to buy next.

The breeders you've listed are all well known and successful. Some of them have a more long term breeding program, with many, many generations of consistent quality. Some are newer breeders and might not be able to maintain consistent quality over many generations-only time will tell.

You've also got a list that involves a variety of different styles of doberman..and only you can decide what particular style you prefer.
 

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Im doing research for my next dog. Im not going to get one for 2years. But I want to know EXACTLY what I want befoere I get it.
 

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well, i think our point is, you dont even HAVE a doberman yet - you havent even gotten your puppy.

you really dont KNOW EXACTLY what you want, when you havent even had your first doberman yet.
 

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I'm somewhat familiar with Phillmar, Cambria, and Foxfire. Could you please explain the differences in style as you see them...thanks.
 

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jim said:
I'm somewhat familiar with Phillmar, Cambria, and Foxfire. Could you please explain the differences in style as you see them...thanks.
Probably the largest difference in style between these breeders is size..the Amonde and Phillmar dogs are HUGE, well over the recommended size range in the DPCA standard. X-static has to be 30", the other well known Phillmar dog is Thunderella..and I can tell you she's at least 29", she's taller than most of the males she's been in the ring with at the Nationals where she was shown. Really a shame with Thunderella, as she's quite beautiful and very showy.

Foxfire and Cambria dogs tend to be well within the standard size wise. They're also less extreme, better balanced.

There have been too many public and well documented situations where Lex Luthor and many of his get (one of them an Amonde dog) have exhibited really inappropriate and unprovoked aggression towards people and other dogs..so I personally think on the whole Foxfire and Cambria dogs tend to have far more correct and safe temperaments.
 

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Lex Luthor is out of Marienburg, right?
No. Lex Luthor was bred in South America, Nello's is the kennel name his breeder used. His pedigree has a lot of old Marienburg (the Sunhawk line) in it, but that's quite a ways back.

Mary Rodgers (Marienburg) bred to Lex, which is probably what you're thinking of.
 

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TracyJo said:
Lex Luthor is out of Marienburg, right?
You might be thinking of another dog that was from the Marienburg kennel:
CH Marienburg's Repo Man. Repo Man was a Lex son. Repo Man died last year at age 6. I believe he had liver issues. It is reported that Lex Luther is still alive.... but I'm not sure if he really is.
 

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marys love of lex luthor is in great detail in the newest DD :)


(can you tell im excited they FINALLY STARTED SENDING THE DARN THING!)

and MJ - your ad from dec looked great :)

i think BOWIE needs an ad... i wonder how much uproar that would cause :)
 

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Am I the only one completely lost? Jenn, you've started multiple topics about breeders for the puppy you want to get in two years, when if I understand it right you have yet to bring your first puppy home. What is it you're after? It seems to me that more than one member has tried to explain the problem with labeling Dobes as "show" v. "working"......the ideal show dog should be able to work, end of story. A Doberman is a total package. You choose one over the other and you're asking for problems. Anyhow, this has been worded 10 different ways and you seem to still be stuck on those labels.

You want a working dog? If you got a truly well-bred Doberman in this puppy you are getting, that this puppy should be able to do whatever it is you want it to do. You want a show dog? Ditto.

You list four breeders who produce four different types of dogs. Then you mention that some are expensive, relative to the others. Key word here being "relative". It's all relative. The right dog for you should not be contingent on the lowest price. If you can't afford the dog that's truly right for you, then you need to wait and save. A Doberman is not something you settle for....a Doberman is a dog you want to share your life with. Cost doesn't come into the picture. It's an afterthought when it comes to the RIGHT Doberman for you.

Flame suit zipped. I might be the only one who's seeing red flags....but I doubt it.
 

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my red flags already caught fire and sent up smoke signals...

i had to buy new, bigger red flags.
 

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TracyJo said:
I'm with you crxman, I've been in love with Cambria ever since I first saw a pic of Cambria's Cactus Cash :)
Eddie was a good dog, but he was an even better producer...he really made his mark as a stud dog.

He also was a prolific stud dog, and has had a major influence on the breed because of it. A lot of us have Eddie in their pedigrees..my Razzle has him twice, Blackdobe's dog, Cyrus, is an Eddie grandson, and I believe Velmadobe's girl, Louise, is also an Eddie granddaughter.

In general, Cambria dogs are consistently pretty darned nice, and have excellent temperaments. If I hadn't bought Razzle, there's a good chance I would have looked to Cambria for my next pup.
 
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