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Time Limit for Tails?

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Didn't want to steal Hbwrights good news about her pup. My question is this I know the latest a dog can get his/her ears cropped. What is the time limit for the tail. I know if a tail gets broken they do surgery. Just wondering!
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Didn't want to steal Hbwrights good news about her pup. My question is this I know the latest a dog can get his/her ears cropped. What is the time limit for the tail. I know if a tail gets broken they do surgery. Just wondering!
I don't think you can say there's a time limit for tails in the same sense there is for ears-ears generally are done by a certain age to give them the best chance of standing.

Certainly the older a puppy/dog is, the more invasive tail docking is and the more discomfort is involved. Puppies are generally docked at 2-3 days, and at that time the tail is comprised of cartilege that hasn't hardened into bone yet. While I would never say there was no pain involved-the puppies I've seen docked at that age were more stressed out by being restrained than they were by the moment of docking or after.

I've docked rescue puppies at the same time they were cropped and it didn't slow them down for a minute-I'd never hesitate to do it again. It's not unusual for show puppies to be re-docked at this age in an effort to get the length right, or to try to mask a gay tail as much as possible.

I've known more than one older puppy (say 8-9 months) who was re-docked due to the tail being too long. Obviously this was far more extensive surgery-but they were given pain meds to deal with the discomfort it might cause. I probably wouldn't re-dock at this age or older for cosmetic reasons, but I wouldn't do any finger pointing at anyone who did.
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I agree with MurreyDobes post.

I know that in rescue we have placed all natural Dobermans but it can take a long time to find a home that is willing to take one. The ears are not such an issue.........but the tail can be a sticking point. We have had tails done during spay/neuters for rescues. It is not something that we like to do, but know that it gives a dog a better chance to find a good home quickly.

The latest I would do ears is 12 weeks.
I admit, I was nervous about the tail as far as my husband was concerned. The thoughts of the tail did bother him, not the ears at all though. We've had an uncropped dobe before. My only concern about the tail was mainly the tail lashings I could just imagine we'd get from Cleo had she had a tail. My vets is mainly injury from walls, chairs, etc. But, why would he have any more chance of tail injury then my other dog, Summer?

I have to say that I love Jordan's tail and so does he. I'm sure my husband will get used to it too. He is very much the velcro dobe we were needing. When I talked to my husband about it we both agreed. I love the loving, fun, attentive, velcro personalities and he loves the active, playful dog, with the feeling of protection for his family. The tail takes none of that away.

BTW---Thanks for my thunder. I'm loving every minute of it.
I admit, I was nervous about the tail as far as my husband was concerned. The thoughts of the tail did bother him, not the ears at all though. We've had an uncropped dobe before. My only concern about the tail was mainly the tail lashings I could just imagine we'd get from Cleo had she had a tail. My vets is mainly injury from walls, chairs, etc. But, why would he have any more chance of tail injury then my other dog, Summer?

I have to say that I love Jordan's tail and so does he. I'm sure my husband will get used to it too. He is very much the velcro dobe we were needing. When I talked to my husband about it we both agreed. I love the loving, fun, attentive, velcro personalities and he loves the active, playful dog, with the feeling of protection for his family. The tail takes none of that away.

BTW---Thanks for my thunder. I'm loving every minute of it.
A Doberman has no padding for their tail - single coated breed with a thin whippy long tail = more injuries. That does not mean it will ever be injured, just that there is a higher probability of it.
I think the reason alot of dogs with excessively long docked tails are redocked is because they develop hotspots, sores, or infections on the tail if it is a few inches (vertebrae) too long. I have seen a few litters be docked, and I can tell that the dewclaw removal is alot more painful on the pups. Litters are generally docked around 2-7 days before nerve endings and connective tissue are very strong. I doubt many vets will dock a tail after the pup is a few months old for cosmetic reasons, if the animal is in pain or develops an infection then there is justification.
Here in Holland we are used to tails, and I never seen injuries, here is cropping and docking not aloud anymore, and I don't see any problems at all.

And believe me, we are used to it, and its really nice!
That's good to hear elly. I was curious to know the reason they said they were more prone to injury. My neighbors across the street have an undocked dane and they said they were more prone too. I guess that would make sense now to hear the explanation.
That's good to hear elly. I was curious to know the reason they said they were more prone to injury. My neighbors across the street have an undocked dane and they said they were more prone too. I guess that would make sense now to hear the explanation.
if the dock is excessively long (but still docked) the dog will tend to sit on it or rub it against rough surfaces. it can really be be a mess.
The thing to understand is that past 2-3 days, the tail docking becomes a SURGERY - the animal must be anesthetized fully (general anesthesia) as opposed to puppies where they are given pain meds and that is typically it. So it is a different procedure - that being said, doing it at the same time as neuter/spay or cropping isn't a big deal. BackInBlack had Ziris docked when she had her ears done, and as many others said, its common to redock puppies at that time as well.
Ziris had her ears, tail, and dewclaws all done at 9 weeks when she arrived here. The vet did warn me that at her age it was considered an amputation. The tail didnt really seem to bother her. If anything (like someone already said) the dewclaws bugged her a bit. I think that was more from the bandages than anything though. She got the pain medication injection after her surgery and I requested a few days of take home pain meds for her just in case. But it really didnt seem to bother her that much, she surely didnt slow down any! haha
OMG I love all naturals as I call them! We have a few at our dog park and they are just lovely!!!! One day I would love to have an all natural!
We have a 10 week old in rescue here, who apparently was docked just before he got dumped at 8 weeks. I don't know his whole story but foster mom tells me that he doesn't want anyone touching his tail and it is bothering him.
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I had an all natural, my choice, as I did the tails, dobe/weim cross and loved the look. Now I prefer the all natural look and would take one over a cropped and docked, everything being the same.
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