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hi!ok so 8 mth dobi named bayley likes to run away! She comes back but still. I live in a sub division and there are other dogs and Idont want j her to meet up with a bad doh put date somebody or get ran over! She knows here commands like sit stay come..but if the kids leave the front door open just for a split sec she is gone!!! And doesn't listen to anyone! I've bought the invisable fence, that didny work...shes toooooo fast for the thing trip register so $350 gone! Then ive tryed newspapers, fly swatter,eater bottle,ummm time out putting her in the crate afterwards..nothing matters to her ..so lastnight I went to home depot and got the remote shock collar that also has the sound feature as well...ling story short....she took off and ran so fast away!i think my husband head it on to lose...so I caught up with her and danf carne rite to me..so I was training her and so far so good..i left the front door open for 20 mins and she wouldn't even go near the door...i can handle her occasionally chewing things up our having an accident in the house but I can't take much more of get running oft!i even take her to the park 2 times a week.pleas help!!!

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I agree with all of the above comments. It sounds like you're setting your dog up to fail and your kids need to be a little more vigilant. An obedience class would be a great thing and perhaps some heavy work on recall. Make sure that when you call her to you and she comes you praise her for a good long while and you praise her like she just saved your parents from a house fire. Never call her to you and then scold her for anything! A good strong recall is what you need.

Also, I don't know what exactly you use the newspaper and the fly swatter for but I hope you're not hitting your dog...
 

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Hey, if you had a swimming pool and a gate to restrict access, would you just leave the gate open all the time to see if your kids (let's say they are toddlers) would wander to the pool? NO, it's just plain stupid. So close the door.

Twice a week at a park is not adequate anything - your dog needs regular exercise and training on a daily basis. Don't use a shock collar because it is not made to be used the way you are using it. Train, train, train and don't swat her. Take a class and learn how to train your dog to listen to you...remember, one lesson doesn't do it and one set of lessons doesn't do it. It takes reinforcing those commands daily and make it fun, please.
 

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My kids are 4 and 5.almost 6 in jan.) And they domt leave leave it open..this is how it works..thryll try to go out the door and bayley jumps up and lounges thru the door which either causes them to be knocked down or hit there heads on the door...they try grabbing the collar but shes just to quick for them...a lady down the road told me to use the newspaper bc out doesn't hurt hey iy just scars her..same thing with the swatter..water bottle I came up with bc well.idk..lol thought since out works with cats Ir wud b worth a ive nevdr had a big dog before so im completely new...obedienve classes around here cost around $300 starting out...do thats why I joined here to see if I could get advice on what to do.but from the sounds of it most of yall have taken classes route...i work from 8-5, every day but my mom will come over and walk her and when I get home I walk her to she get exetdized but idk..thx.for all the sice! Ill.try.anything..
 

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Lock the door? That way no kids or dog playing in traffic. Short term fix.

Teach recall, start on a long line so you have control. Only real long term fix.
 

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Can you gate off the room the door enters into so she always has an extra barrier between her and the door? That way the kids have to go through one gate and close it, with her on the other side, before opening the front door.
 

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Maybe you need a double door system in your house for an added safety measure while you train the kids and the dog. Can you install a baby gate or an ex-pen somewhere in front of the real door? Teach the kids to make sure to close that gate or door before they ever open the real door to outside so that Bayley is safe. Not being a parent, but aren't there devices you can put high on the real door so that the kids can't open it?

If you don't get this under control and fast, you probably won't have to handle this for much longer as she probably will get hit by a car.
 

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New rule - put the dog up in a crate or behind another door before kids open door to go outside :)

Or like someone else posted, a double door system or even use a baby gate system.
 

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well don't have to worry about the shot caller anymore I was walking bailey anasara shocking her for no reason I'm returning it!
Samandmacksmom++ thx for the links! A couple of them were close! I'm meeting with a lady tomorrow night! Apperamtly its only $85 for 6 weeks not each week hehe..
 

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That's awesome you found a training club!

As for the kids and the front door- can you start a kid's reward program so they notify you when they want to go outside? This gives you time to make sure Bailey is in her crate and doesn't bolt out the door. The kids could be rewarded with special stickers or points they can save up to get a toy at the end of the week (from the Dollar Store). Just a thought...


well don't have to worry about the shot caller anymore I was walking bailey anasara shocking her for no reason I'm returning it!
Samandmacksmom++ thx for the links! A couple of them were close! I'm meeting with a lady tomorrow night! Apperamtly its only $85 for 6 weeks not each week hehe..
 

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My kids are 4 and 5.almost 6 in jan.) And they domt leave leave it open..this is how it works..thryll try to go out the door and bayley jumps up and lounges thru the door which either causes them to be knocked down or hit there heads on the door...they try grabbing the collar but shes just to quick for them...a lady down the road told me to use the newspaper bc out doesn't hurt hey iy just scars her..same thing with the swatter..water bottle I came up with bc well.idk..lol thought since out works with cats Ir wud b worth a ive nevdr had a big dog before so im completely new...obedienve classes around here cost around $300 starting out...do thats why I joined here to see if I could get advice on what to do.but from the sounds of it most of yall have taken classes route...i work from 8-5, every day but my mom will come over and walk her and when I get home I walk her to she get exetdized but idk..thx.for all the sice! Ill.try.anything..
So I would keep a better eye when the kids try to go out, you don't want one of them getting hurt.

I would say most here do training classes, even though many are very good trainers. I do all of my training at home, but literally all of my friends have dogs, both of my neighbors who I'm very close with have dogs, and we have lots of nieces and nephews and plenty of opportunity to socialize. If we didn't, even though I would have zero issue training a dog, I would still go for the socialization aspect. Great that you found a local club, I would go as often as you can. A well trained doberman (or dog in general) is a complete joy to be around... A not so trained dog, well.... lol... good luck!
 

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well don't have to worry about the shot caller anymore I was walking bailey anasara shocking her for no reason I'm returning it!

It's hard to read your posts due to the spelling errors, just saying. But if you're saying your kid was shocking the dog with the collar, what the hell is wrong with you? It's not a toy! Why would it even be in the kid's hand?
 

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It's hard to read your posts due to the spelling errors, just saying. But if you're saying your kid was shocking the dog with the collar, what the hell is wrong with you? It's not a toy! Why would it even be in the kid's hand?
Wow. I missed that (due to the insane spelling). If that is what it means, I get on board the "what the hell is wrong with you" bandwagon. That's an unimaginably stupid, irresponsible and abusive way to treat a dog. If I were him I'd make a break for it every chance I got too.
 

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no no no no no that is crazy I'm not stupid!! sorry about the spelling I'm typing from my phone and smartphones are so smart sometimes! when the kids go outside she will run to the door and knock them over I have another the door they can use but she hears them open it and she comes running! I was saying the shock collar was shocking her by itself I wasn't even pressing a button and it was shocking her so I immediately took it off of her!!!
 

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no no no no no that is crazy I'm not stupid!! sorry about the spelling I'm typing from my phone and smartphones are so smart sometimes! when the kids go outside she will run to the door and knock them over I have another the door they can use but she hears them open it and she comes running! I was saying the shock collar was shocking her by itself I wasn't even pressing a button and it was shocking her so I immediately took it off of her!!!
Whew! That's good to know.

E collars are tools, and used properly can be extremely useful. I would say 8 months was too young anyway. Most people who use them (I do not, so I am no expert) recommend at least a year, I believe. Also, like any tool you need to know how to properly use it. Anyone can pick up a surgeons scalpel, but would you want em to use it on you? (even if it came with an instructional DVD?) :)

There is awesome info on here, I would start with the basic stuff at home, like manners and NILF and get thee to Obedience school! Good luck, and everyone loves pictures
 

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Teach wait where she will learn not to go the door unless you give her permission.Keep a long line on her so you can step on it before she gets out the door. Use a baby gate the more times she gets out the more it will be in grained where she thinks it is normal to go out the door anytime she wants too.Good Luck at training classes you are going with her right never turn your dog over to anyone for them to train.Good Luck
 

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I totally sympathise!

I have a little escape artist too :)

I realised that she'd just get SO excited about the door being opened, so I had to desensitize her a little.

Try some little practice runs with a leash just so the door opening isnt this big exciting event. And always make being by u more fun than anything outside, so plenty of treats, fun and toys when she stays by ur side.

But definitely get some help on this. Experts make us see our dogs behaviour in a whole new light! Its enjoyable and really gives you an incite into your pup :)
 
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