Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums banner

1 - 20 of 51 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
731 Posts
Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
First part of the bloodwork is back.

Thyroid normal (full panel run, she is above the mid-point)

Only 1 thing came back out of range - Eosinophils, normal range is up to 1000, Pula's was 2800. She had the lab repeat the test to confirm.
She said that can be allergies (which we suspect in Pula, but not sure exactly what they are), intestinal parasites, and a few other things. We are looking at what else to do do differentiate this number. Allergies is my #1 guess so far, but I don't want to rule things out yet.

Her hormone level tests take 7 days I think, so they are not yet back.

We are still trying to find a pain source. She is on crate rest and leash only for now while I try to work this out and anti-inflammatories (not steroids). She is able to do nose work and basic training. I am working on massaging her myself and in general working on touching and trust. I feel bad for her.

So, nothing concrete at this time. I only got a voicemail. I will go look at the test results myself tomorrow and get my copy.

Lisa
 

·
kopfgeschlagen
Joined
·
2,671 Posts
I don't know if this will help at all, but I was talking to a work friend who has had lots of pain in her esophagus for a long time. They have recently diagnosed her with "eosinophilitis" or something like that which manifests in her with sores in the esophagus. Apparently there is new recognition of the damage that a high eosinophil count can do in the body and it is an emerging area of medicine. I don't know if that relates at all to what is happening with Pula or where her pain may be coming from, but I thought I'd mention it.

Hugs to you and your girl!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,895 Posts
Rocketdoc, I went back to look at your other threads on Pula. Pula had/has an issue with her spine and that's why she wasn't running or jumping. Massaging may or may not feel good depending on her pain and also the amount of pressure and if it is done correctly. If you have her on a leash, you might want to not hook it to a collar but to a front harness to avoid any pressure on her neck and I think limiting her interaction with other dogs is helpful, so that she doesn't do things that might delay her recovery.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
731 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
Thanks everyone. Interesting read, Darkevs.

Yes, poor me and Pula. I am not patient, really. I just want a specific answer so we can deal with it and move on. For a dog that is working on being confident and secure, having pain doesn't help. And not being able to train at the level she is used to is probably wearing on her. We are making up games and still doing easy training, but that is not her norm. I miss it too. We were really starting to get in to a rhythm and work better together.

I am going to ask about allergy tests, but I may just do a food trial. Hard part is there are not a lot of proteins that she has not had before, whether in a treat or food. We may also try 100% raw if need be, but that is not my preference. She gets some raw now (sardines, bones, occasional other things).

Thanks again.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
9,449 Posts
Has she seen a specialist - neuro or ortho? Has anyone suggested an MRI yet?
 
  • Like
Reactions: brw1982

·
Registered
Joined
·
731 Posts
Discussion Starter #12
Thanks.

Has she seen a specialist - neuro or ortho? Has anyone suggested an MRI yet?
Thanks. She has seen a chiropractic specialist already and the first time showed a lot of improvement from this adjustment/laser treatment. But not ortho or neuro. I am looking for referral to good ortho from people I train with. I have some calls in.

That is next up. I am the one suggesting an MRI (based on things I read here in DT for other dogs), since we haven't pinpointed the actual problem.

Lisa
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
731 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
Her first injury, back in September, was different we think. This one I am working with now seems to be in a different place.

She was cleared to go back into training, after her 10 weeks off. She may not have really been ready, although she sure acted like it. She was good for 2-3 weeks, then this new thing. The question is whether this is new or the same thing...

The Traumeel seems to be helping. I suspect I am being impatient due to the stress of not knowing EXACTLY what is wrong.

As with all things like this, she has poor timing. I am currently on layoff from my old job and am working to start a new company with a friend (no pay). Yikes. :)

Thanks for letting me vent my concerns and receive your advice.
 

·
joie de vivre
Joined
·
11,268 Posts
I hope you guys get this figured out soon. It's so frustrating to not have an answer. I understand being impatient. If you knew what was wrong for sure then you could at least form a plan of action to deal with it purposefully. You're both in my thoughts.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rocketdoc

·
Registered
Joined
·
731 Posts
Discussion Starter #15
Thanks.

Has she seen a specialist - neuro or ortho? Has anyone suggested an MRI yet?
Thanks. She has seen a chiropractic specialist already and the first time showed a lot of improvement from this adjustment/laser treatment. But not ortho or neuro. I am looking for referral to good ortho from people I train with. I have some calls in.

That is next up. I am the one suggesting an MRI (based on things I read here in DT for other dogs), since we haven't pinpointed the actual problem.

Lisa
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
21,867 Posts
Poor Pula. Give her a (gentle) hug from me. It's so hard because they can't tell us what's wrong. I'm sure she's as frustrated as you. I sure hope your vets can get it figured out soon.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rocketdoc

·
Registered
Joined
·
731 Posts
Discussion Starter #18
Yes. Want a plan.

I hope you guys get this figured out soon. It's so frustrating to not have an answer. I understand being impatient. If you knew what was wrong for sure then you could at least form a plan of action to deal with it purposefully. You're both in my thoughts.
Yes. I want to know what to do for her, so we can
1. make a plan to get her back up and running and
2. be sure she is ok to go back to activity
3. make sure there is not something underlying problem that is making this more likely

Lisa
 
  • Like
Reactions: brw1982

·
Registered
Joined
·
731 Posts
Discussion Starter #19
Pula is acting a little more lively. Which is good and bad - she is wanting to play now with the other dog, which she hasn't really wanted to do. So, harder to keep apart.

But, I was able to get into the ortho vet tomorrow. Yea! He was recommended by a friend who has not 1 but 2 ACL surgeries there with her dog.

I am hopeful for a diagnosis that is specific and then to rehab. The fact that she seems playful today and yesterday is good. She has not been that way for two weeks.

Merry Christmas and fingers crossed.
 

·
Owned by Dobes since 1975
Joined
·
30,675 Posts
glad she thinks she feels better! :)

here is another good read........ http://www.eiwc.org/pdf/Physiotherapy_for_dogs.pdf

i found another page with ifo. on a muscle 'tear' injury that just proceeded to get worse because of all the secondary issues that arose.......initial injury bled into surrounding muscle tissue which then set off inflammatory reaction that cause more pain, etc. ect. I will back track my googling and see if i can find it again.

Hugz to Pula!
 
1 - 20 of 51 Posts
Top