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Oliver, my foster Dobe, is at the emergency vet undergoing surgery for a bowel obstruction.

I haven't dealt with this before. I know the vet will give me post-op instructions, but I would appreciate advice and tips from folks who have gone through this.

Thanks!
 

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I have experience here. The good part is that you got your dog in right away. Post surgical usually isn't too bad. Leash only for 7-10 days, keep them from licking the sutures, pain medication if they seem ouchy, watch incision for signs of infection (redness, swelling, oozing pus), small meals multiple times a day at first, and cage rest is best.

If you are not home with them, use a crate to keep them from ripping open their sutures. Best to stay home with them the first couple of days to watch for licking of surgical site. My boy was very good about this but some are not. They may send them home with an e-collar but I prefer the Kong Cloud inflatable or ProCollar Premium they don't take up so much room that they bump into things. For more information see:

Comfortable Dog Cone Alternatives - Whole Dog Journal Article

Hope all goes well for you, Tracy and Mariah
 

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No experience, but I hope things go well for Oliver.
 
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no experience dealing with bowell obstructions or surgery for it.

But I do know that Slippery elm bark powder will help calm, soothe and heal the intestinal tract.

hope all goes well.

Hugz to Oliver!
 

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Been there on more than one occasion.

Were they able to to remove the object through an incision in the intestine or was a part of the intestine removed?

Either way, once you get him home, your vet will advise you to feed very small meals every few hours. The intestines need time to get back into working order.

Keep a close eye on him for signs of fever. Infection after any sort of incision into the intestine could mean he's becoming septic.

If you feed kibble and your vet says he can go right back to eating kibble, I'd maybe hold off for another few days and stick with soft food. Sometimes the kibble is too difficult to digest after this surgery.

Add probiotics to his diet. I also kept pedialyte on hand because in the first few days I found my dog was too dopey from meds to really want to eat or drink much.

And it may take a few days for him to have a bowel movement. But when he does....prepare to do a happy dance :lol2:

Good luck! This is an extremely stressful time for you but I'm confident he'll recover in no time! :nicejob:
 

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I also like the comfy cone collar available at Petco. I just purchased my second one in a large.

Yes, good vibes and wishes to you. Maybe a good bottle of vino for you so you can relax.
 
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Been there. Our boy had a bland diet for about a week and a half. Chicken or turkey and rice. Then transition slowly back to his food he was eating. Also any time you give antibiotics, give plain yogurt and probotics. This will help build the good bacteria back up in his intestines. It took a couple of weeks to get his stools back to normal. Antibiotic and some pain meds. Watch the incision for a lot of redness. Keep him from licking it.
The hardest thing was the no running and jumping around for 3 weeks. Try telling that to a Dobe! NO Zoomies! Good vibes for a recovery.
Also like KCFilley said, a couple of bottles of wine will help you out to relax.
 

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Update: Oliver is home

I picked up Oliver from the e-vet this morning. I took him on a very short amble as soon as we walked out of the clinic, and then again as soon as we got home. He is crated in the bedroom now. I'll offer him some water and a little soft food around 2 pm. He's still a little anemic, but he's looking much much better than he did on Sunday morning.

Well, he ate a squeaker from a stuffie. He NEVER eats squeakers from stuffies! He guts the stuffie, then shreds the fabric. Of all the things he's eaten (and apparently passed with no problem), it was a thing I've never seen him chew on, much less eat, that laid him low.
I have experience here. The good part is that you got your dog in right away.{snip}
Unfortunately, we didn't get him in right away. I feel bad/guilty about that.
...I prefer the Kong Cloud inflatable or ProCollar Premium...
He's wearing a blue paper collar that folds back around his shoulders. It seems to work for him, but I'll be watching him like a hawk.
{snip}Were they able to to remove the object through an incision in the intestine or was a part of the intestine removed?
Intestine was removed. Luckily, only a small spot, about 0.83 inches/21 mm in diameter, was necrotic. It could have been much worse.
If you feed kibble and your vet says he can go right back to eating kibble, I'd maybe hold off for another few days and stick with soft food...Add probiotics to his diet. I also kept pedialyte on hand...
Vet said to feed small amounts frequently. I'm soaking his kibble in hot water to soften it. I'll be picking up some Forti-Flora (probiotics) from his regular vet tomorrow. (I'm not crazy about FF because it has "animal digest" [mystery meat!] in it, but oh, well, he needs it.)
What were the signs that your pup may have something "wrong" that ultimately lead to the diagnosis and then surgery?
Over an eight-day period: soft stool, progressing to soupy diarrhea, loss of appetite (and he's a chow hound!), greatly increased water consumption. Would not lie down on his side or curl up. Laid down only in a "sphinx" position. Hair on his back stood up. Pale gums. Loss of strength in back legs. Never had a fever, though.
Maybe a good bottle of vino for you so you can relax.
...like KCFilley said, a couple of bottles of wine will help you out to relax.
Oh, I really really could go for a fifth of tequila right now :D, but I have to stay sober in case I have to run him back to the vet. Not the best time of the year to be drinking and driving. :eek:

Thanks to everyone for the good vibes.:wavey:
 

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Oh, I feel for ya but at least he got in and was saved.

We went through this with Arkus when he was 5 months old. Swallowed a black sock and was lodged in his colon. He, too, had a portion of his intestines removed and he was recovered within 3-4 days. We still fed him a very bland diet and brought him back in for a check up.

Ironically, his dober-goat made an appearance this evening. Nothing like trying to throw down hydrogen peroxide down the throat of a 90lb doberman, by yourself.
 

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I'll be picking up some Forti-Flora (probiotics) from his regular vet tomorrow. (I'm not crazy about FF because it has "animal digest" [mystery meat!] in it, but oh, well, he needs it.)
Just FYI - I used to get FortiFlora for Koa, but now get a probiotic from my dog food place (luckily I mentioned it a couple of months ago when I was in and she showed me!), here is the website of the product. Doesn't help right this second, but in case you need it in the future.

Nature's Farmacy - Store - Product Details

Really glad to hear that the surgery went smoothly!
 

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Check out these Probiotics by Dr. Beckers site. Plus she has lots and lots of great info.
Glad he is doing better. Here is some info from her site.


But Wait... All Pet Probiotics Are NOT Created Equal
Since the number of available pet probiotics seems to grow every day, deciding which product is best for your pets can be very confusing.

If you're like most concerned pet owners, you have many questions of what to look for in a pet probiotic, including:

How many strains of beneficial bacteria does my pet need?
How many beneficial bacteria per gram are best?
Are the viability, potency and purity of a probiotic important to know? And if so, how do I assess these factors?
How many strains of beneficial bacteria does my pet need?

Probiotics are considered "beneficial" or "good" bacteria. There are many different kinds, or strains, of these bacteria. Each works to create a healthy balance in your pet's gastrointestinal system.

Individual strands are helpful for maintaining overall health as well as uniquely responding to the variety of daily stressors, both emotional and physiological, that your pet encounters.

Research shows that 10 or more strains are recommended for promoting optimal health.

So, if you find a pet probiotic product has 1-2 strains of bacteria – as is the case with many probiotics available today – that's fine. But, in my opinion, selecting a probiotic that has 10 or more beneficial strains is a much preferred option.

Why? The more beneficial strains you have in your probiotic, the better able they are to respond to the wide variety of stressors that can affect your pet's GI system. In a moment, I'll show you a probiotic that has 14 strains.

How many beneficial bacteria per serving are best?
The potency of your probiotic is very, very important. Knowing how many beneficial bacteria per serving it has will potentially tell you how effective it can be.

Let's take a quick look at a human example to make the point:

As you know, a multivitamin can contain numerous vitamins and minerals, right? But if any of these ingredients are not included in at least the daily recommended allotment, their value may be limited.


So you can see that, even if your probiotic contains numerous strands of beneficial bacteria, you need to make sure it also contains a sufficient number of bacteria per serving.

Many products today contain between 1 and 3 million beneficial bacteria per serving. This is okay. Any amount of probiotics can be helpful. However, in my opinion, if you really want to make sure you're promoting optimal health and wellbeing, you can do far better.

Ideally, I believe you'll want to find a probiotic formula with 20, 30, 40 million or more beneficial bacteria per serving. I'm about to introduce you to a probiotic that contains 58 billion active beneficial bacteria per serving. Yes, fifty-eight billion! (When used by the expiration date printed on the package)

Are the viability, potency and purity of a probiotic important to know? And if so, how do I assess these factors?
Another fabulous question. These factors are definitely important for you to know.

If you care about your pet, you have to know that you can trust exactly what's inside that probiotics bottle.

At best, you don't need to waste your time and money on products that don't have what your pet needs at the recommended potency. At worst, you cannot risk having "something" in there that is impure that could potentially be harmful.

Recent research has shown that many probiotics simply do not live up to their labels. In the over 20 types of probiotics tested in one study, researchers found numerous instances of products that:

Didn't contain at least 14 strains of bacteria
Were contaminated with such things as mold
Had misspellings of the bacteria included
Misidentified the bacteria included with outdated names and/or "nonexistent" strands
Had no live bacteria organisms – which are needed to be considered a probiotic at all – and/or did not include the number of live bacteria that could be expected to be contained based on the expiration date
So, how do you assess the viability, potency and purity of a probiotic?

In my opinion, the best way is to find a probiotic that is manufactured in a facility that has received the International certification for meeting or exceeding GMP Requirements.

GMP, or Good Manufacturing Practice, regulations require that a manufacturer take proactive steps to help ensure their product is safe, potent, and pure, and that their manufacturing process is technologically adequate to avoid contaminations or errors.

Having a GMP certification helps ensure that a product is sufficiently potent to be effective and safe.

But, how can you tell if a probiotic has a GMP certification?

Since you will often not find this information on the label, you need to do your homework to make sure your selected probiotic has received this certification to help protect your pet by one of the highest standards in dietary supplementation. In a moment, I'll make it easy for you by sharing a probiotic with you that has already received this certification...

To recap, as you look for the best in pet probiotics, you're looking for how many (strands) and how much (bacteria per gram), and a product that is produced in a GMP compliant facility, which can help assure viability, potency and purity.

Complete Probiotics for Pets, a Probiotic Powerhouse that Packs 58 Billion Good Bacteria into EVERY Serving
With my new Complete Probiotics for Pets, your pet will receive a minimum of 58 billion "good" bacteria in every serving when used by the expiration date on the package.

Compare that to the competition's offering of 1-3 million and you will realize there's no comparison.

But that's just the beginning of why I'm so happy to be able to offer you a complete pet probiotic that puts an end to your search and allows you to feel confident you've made the best choice for your pet.

The remarkable Complete Probiotics for Pets:

Brings together 14 of the most powerful strains of beneficial bacteria
Provides over 58 billion bacteria in every serving
Has earned the GMP Compliance Certification
Contains a special blend of the appropriate strains that are most effective for promoting optimal gastrointestinal health in your cats and dogs
Is a powerful way for you to help offer your pets a happy and healthy life

Let's take a look at just a few of the probiotics contained within Complete Probiotics for Pets, including the well-known Bifidobacterium lactis and Bifidobacterium animalis – species that are known to work together to maintain a balance of "good" bacteria along your pet's digestive tract.

Unlike other probiotics you may have seen, each and every serving of Complete Probiotics for Pets contains:

Bifidobacterium lactis: a friendly bacteria often found in yogurt that is known to help stimulate immune responses.
Bifidobacterium animalis: a unique bacteria that promotes optimal health and protection within the digestive tract.
Lactobacillus acidophilus: guards the health of your pet's entire digestive tract.
Bifidobacterium longum: keeps your pet's digestive system running smoothly, and helps enhance their immune system.
Bifidobacterium bifidum: helps promote a healthy balance of flora in your pet's intestine. What's more, this organism is especially helpful for enhancing immune response.
Lactobacillus casei: works with other helpful organisms, and helps to encourage the growth of other "good" bacteria.
Lactobacillus plantarum: helps to ensure that the nutrients in vitamins and supplements are getting to your pet's cells.
Add to this three more potent strains and you can see why I'm even more impressed with this concentrated pet probiotic formula.

Lactobacillus rhamnosus: assists your pet's elimination and occasional intestinal discomfort by working to stabilize their intestinal microflora.
Lactobacillus bulgarious: works with other Lactobacillus strains to provide your pet with a potential source of dietary antioxidants.
Bacillus coagulans: helps enhance your pet's intestinal health and provides back-up for sporadic intestinal discomfort.
The end result: You get fifty-eight billion bacterial "buddies" ready to help support your pet's digestive tract and promote a natural balance of bacteria to this all-important area of their body.

Can Any Other Probiotic Nourish and Support Good Bacteria like This?
As you know so well, there is nothing quite like a healthy pet.

Probiotics can put your pet on the path to better health... as long as you choose one that delivers all that it claims.

However, as I have shown you, not all pet probiotics on the market are created equal.

Probiotic bacteria found in today's products vary significantly in composition, biological activity, and portion. Plus, as you've learned, how a product is manufactured can make a huge impact on its potency and, therefore, effectiveness.

To help you make sense of all the different options available to you, I've put together a chart so you can compare Complete Probiotics for Pets to the other products out there.

After you check this out, I'm sure you'll see why Complete Probiotics for Pets is #1 on my list.

Benefits You Want Complete Probiotics for Pets Other Brands
Contains multiple strains of good bacteria? YES – This concentrated formula brings together 14 different "good" strains, so your pet's GI tract gets many varieties of helpful organisms in one dose. Many probiotics contain one or two strains that, on their own, may not be able to do enough. Other products also have competing strains that fight for the same resources, so you may not see the full benefit of the probiotics.
Delivers a potent formula? YES – A minimum of 58 billion beneficial bacteria are packed in every serving when used by the expiration date printed on the package. Some probiotic formulas may contain only a few billion beneficial bacteria.
Manufactured to deliver live, viable organisms? YES – This formula is manufactured to prevent heat, air and moisture from having an effect on the organisms. Many "bargain" products are manufactured without consideration of exposing delicate organisms to heat, air or moisture -- factors that can damage or destroy them.
GMP certified? YES – Complete Probiotics for Pets is certified to be in full compliance with GMP Requirements. Many products do not receive this certification, so you can never be sure if your pet is really getting what you think. At best, you're just wasting money on an ineffective product. At worst, potential harm can result.
Beneficial bacteria reach the small intestine? YES – When you give this concentrated formula to your pet with their meal, you're delivering helpful bacteria into a stomach with a more favorable pH. These strains are known to survive and reach the small intestine. Not all supplements include live organisms, or clearly explain the way to take them for best results. Some acidophilus-based products actually may not survive your pet's stomach acidity.
Easy to store YES – The product does NOT need refrigeration, making it convenient to store. Many require refrigeration, making them impractical or inconvenient to store where you feed your pets.
Meets the criteria for a beneficial probiotic:
Survives stomach acid
Has health-promoting features
Promotion of probiotic preservation through manufacturing and delivery process
YES – Since this product passes all of these criteria with flying colors, it can be considered a beneficial probiotic. Many probiotics aren't as beneficial in that they don't deliver on all of the criteria. Whether it's the strains they contain, the way they are manufactured, or the fact that some just don't survive the rigors of your pet's stomach acid, it's important for you to be aware -- so you know your pet is getting the "true" value of probiotic supplementation
 
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