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This is frustrating to post. Im new to the forum and found it when i bought my Dobie puppy. Anyways my dobie puppy has some behavior issues that are kinda frustrating for me but im sure they stem from me being 3 weeks away from having my own child and on edge from everything. So i thought about giving her up to someone who would be more fiting to her but id feel like a failure if i gave up on her when i know all this is just typical puppy.

So if i may ask for advice on how to help me and train her for these habits of hers to stop so that i dont feel the need to place her in a more dobie experianced home.

She is 10 weeks old. She is not having any of the puppy chewing habits and plays with her toys and all that.

The biggest issue im having with her is with listening. She does not want to come when called. Not even for treats. Basicly we have to chase her around in the house and the yard to catch her for anything. Like she does not want or crave human attention. So how do i make her listen and come well called and not make a chase game out of it?

Also when i leave the house and shes not even crated she just barks and barks for hours on end. I tried leaving her with family and they couldnt take her and dont want to baby sit cause she barked for 3 hours non stop and no matter what they did she would not stop barking or howling even with them being right there.

I have no experiance raising big puppies or having big dogs besides foster dogs from a rescue along time ago. I have never experianced these issues esp. not with a puppy. She just dont act like a normal puppy.

If someone has some advice id appreciate it because i have never given up on a dog or puppy and being so far pregnant it just frustrates me to play tag with a puppy and never once had a problem with a puppy just coming to people in general.
 

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This might not be the popular opinion but considering that your life is about to become double hell with a spitfire puppy and an infant I think you should look into doberman rescues. People want puppies... the younger she is the easier it will be to find her a home with somebody who definitely has more time. Doberman puppies aren't easy and usually stay crazy for a while, then they're sometimes angels for a month before the doberteens hit and they go back to the snarky puppy stage. That's difficult to deal with before taking into consideration that you're very pregnant/about to have an infant (and therefore will be getting almost no sleep, probably) and don't have experience with larger breed puppies.
 

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Whomever the breeder is in this scenario, they really should be shot. It's just crazy to place a 7-8 week old doberman puppy with someone who not only has no large breed puppy experience, but also is in the latter stages of pregnancy. Talk about setting a situation up for disaster!

I agree with PR, the best thing to do is probably talk to rescue about turning this puppy over to them. Life is only going to get more complicated once that baby comes..this puppy sounds like it's not particularly bonded to people-and while that can probably be dealt with, it's going to take time you're not going to have after delivery.

I don't think you can say you failed in a situation that would be insurmountable for just about anyone, a situation you should have *never* been put into if it wasn't for breeder irresponsibility.
 

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I'm sorry, but what posessed you to try to raise a puppy while gearing up for a new baby?? There is no way you could pay me enough money to try both. Since it is unlikely that you will give up your child when it is born (relax... just a joke), I vote for either bringing her back to her breeder or giving her to a Doberman rescue. As I cannot believe a reputable breeder sold a puppy to a family about to expand, my vote actually goes to rescue.
 

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I have not spoken to her breeder yet. Like i said ive been weighing out the options with everything coming up with my first child. I researched the breed and fostered ADULT dobermans many years ago and kinda fell for the breed so when i decided i wanted to get a puppy as a watch dog over the house and to raise with my child and smaller dog. With me being so miserable and almost due i probably didnt think everything through. Pretty much i did everything i shouldnt have done probably esp knowing what i do since i worked with rescues.

Im still not quite ready to give up because i feel i have failed and she isnt a bad puppy just alot of handle right now. I take her out in my yard and let her run and play and toss balls and toys. Her and my small dog run and run. She has her chew toys. Ive sat down with treats to teach her basic commands but i cant even seem to get her attention with treats. Shes doing great at house training since she seems to much rather be outside and be able to run. I know they have alot of energy and need that space and time to run and play and just be crazy which she gets.

I just dont quite understand why she barks like mad when we leave and barks like mad non stop for hours even if i leave her with family and shes right there in the same room uncrated. I could understand if she was crated to bark and whine because thats typical of puppies.

I just dont understand why she doesnt seem to want any human contact. Its not like she isnt social or shy or timid she just simply rather play with my other dog and be by herself then have anything to do with people and i thought maybe she wasnt socialized with people as much when she was younger with her breeder.

Someone who had dobie experiance i talked to asked me about her registration number and said she comes from the albino line due to the letters in her registration. Which i was just reading up on. I guess that line has alot of genetic problems and behavior problems due to the albino bloodline and interbreeding. Is this correct?
 

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It sounds like this puppy was raised outside, without a lot of human contact-her primary bond is with other dogs.

To overcome that, I'd really limit her interaction with the other dog in the home for awhile. I'd probably tether her to my body with a leash. Both solutions would force her into interaction with humans. This would also help with limiting having to chase her around in your condition.

But again..this is going to take a lot of time, and I really don't think you're going to have that time with your current situation.
 

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Sad to say, but take it as a learning lesson and get your pup in a more suitable home.
If you are having difficulty with a normal dobe pup at 10 weeks old, you will be in for a few more surprises, especially when the baby comes along.
You are far from a failure, as you are here. With your lack of experience, you will be a failure if you keep the pup and endure more heartache.
Thanks for reaching out and you have come to the right place and I and others hate being the bearer of bad newz.

As for your questions though, you will make a game out of it, if you chase her, that is what a 10 week old puppy wants.
Your puppy is most likely barking/crying because she wants to be with you and not be left alone.
Good luck with it.
 

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Thanks. I would like to try other possible solutions before just deciding to give her up is all. Its not like i dont have any dog experiance. I have fostered alot of different breeds and puppies and adults but never seen a puppy act like she does is all. It kinda threw me off and i didnt know if this behavior issue was a doberman puppy trait or just lack of socialization to humans early on. Thinking back on it when i first met her the breeder was holding her and every time i reached to touch her she would jerk away and try to jump out of the breeders arms. So probably just not the right socialization from early on.

Atleast its not just me i have my boyfriend who also helps work with her and do most of the chasing for me. We kinda went into this puppy idea knowing he would have to be a huge help in the process with a puppy and a baby.

She did have a bad habit of biting when i got he but she no longer has that problem. Its just all kisses when you finally catch her.
 

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Your 10 week pup, is probably just bored / mine has seperation anxiety, and can't be crated, without crying non-stop.
- when Amy was old enough (@ 4.5 months old) to be left alone on a leather love seat, she was fine
Puppies needs loads of stimulating play and socializaton (people, places, noises, etc.)
- they do take lots of fun work & attention, in the beginning / no way around it, invest quality puppy time now or find a rescue (??)
Its running around like a little devil, to just not be ignored....seeking much human attention / same for crying, for hours straight.

More puppy reading - follow my post #2: http://www.dobermantalk.com/puppy-corner/68447-first-dobie.html
 

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i just want to add i tell him NOT to chase her as like you said it will make a fun game out of it. I tell him to shut the door and leave her and she will eventually want back in lol. Which she does. Just kinda frustrating when she gets out the front door when we are trying to carry things in and out and then trying to get her in cause i cant very well leave her unattended out of a fence in yard and hope someone dont take her or she gets hit. Thats why its frustrating at that point.
 

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i just want to add i tell him NOT to chase her as like you said it will make a fun game out of it. I tell him to shut the door and leave her and she will eventually want back in lol. Which she does. Just kinda frustrating when she gets out the front door when we are trying to carry things in and out and then trying to get her in cause i cant very well leave her unattended out of a fence in yard and hope someone dont take her or she gets hit. Thats why its frustrating at that point.
You need to figure out a way to stop her from even getting out the front door. The longer you let that go on, the harder it will be to stop, and as you said, this is a safety risk on top of an irritation.

Leash her the minute you open the door. Leave her in a crate or another room when you're not at home, don't let her out until you've carried in everything you need. There are lots of different solutions, find the one that works for you.
 

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Someone who had dobie experiance i talked to asked me about her registration number and said she comes from the albino line due to the letters in her registration. Which i was just reading up on. I guess that line has alot of genetic problems and behavior problems due to the albino bloodline and interbreeding. Is this correct?
You dont have bloodline or behaviour problems, this sounds like a normal puppy.
Murreydobe hit it on the nail, when you mentioned you have another dog.
I think you have a lot on your plate and taking on this puppy, is going to cause alot of hard work on your part.
Nubis is my 3rd dobe and for myself, when they are pups, they take alot of work, if you want a well rounded Dobe.
 
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In the long term, I'm a firm believer in the idea that EVERY dog needs to be trained to respect doors. Door crashing, especially front doors, is just too dangerous to ever allow.

This is the kind of thing you need hands on help with, too hard to explain via internet. A puppy class would really be ideal for learning training concepts and skills. Even better would be a few sessions with a private trainer, to address the specific problems you're dealing with, as well as keep her away from other dogs until a human bond is established.
 

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Get a baby gate, you are going to need one soon anyways.
Nubis is 11 months and I still use one, grant it, I have shown him how to jump but he knows its their for a reason. LOL
 

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I personally wouldn't look at it as failure to rehome this pup, but rather, doing what's in the best interests of the puppy. You will be overwhelmed when the baby comes. It will be easy for a rescue to rehome her now, and the challenges of dealing with a puppy with her issues (stemming from poor breeding) with the high stress life of a new baby in the house are probably insurmountable. You'd be giving her the best possible chance to have a great life if you rehomed her now.
 

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I already have baby gates. I want to try to work on these small issues i have for just a bit before tossing in the towel. I know some of you dont think thats the responsible thing to do but most people throw away there dogs at first sight of problems and im just not one of those people. I will admit if i cant handle it then yes best thing is to place her elsewhere. I just need to lock my other dog up or send her to my fathers house for a couple hours each day and get some good 1 on 1 with her without my other dog.
 

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I already have baby gates. I want to try to work on these small issues i have for just a bit before tossing in the towel. I know some of you dont think thats the responsible thing to do but most people throw away there dogs at first sight of problems and im just not one of those people. I will admit if i cant handle it then yes best thing is to place her elsewhere. I just need to lock my other dog up or send her to my fathers house for a couple hours each day and get some good 1 on 1 with her without my other dog.
I'd keep this puppy away from other dogs for a lot longer than a couple of hours a day for awhile. I'd be looking at the exact reverse-if any interaction with other dogs occurs, it's limited to a short period of time per day.
 
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