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I’m looking for opinions and thoughts of what I should do next. My little Lola’s health has seem to gone south in the last two months. First it started with throw up that involves small amounts of blood.

Took her to the vet to get tests ran, everything came out negative. She was prescribed Metronidazole and Sulcrafate. It did work, the constant throw up went away. But about a month later it transitioned to poop with diarrhea. Some days it’s normal stool, but the days she has diarrhea she finishes it with dark red jelly-like blood. It was on and off. Took her to the vet for it and she was prescribed Metronidazole again, Proviable Forte Nutramax, Tylan Powder, and some Omega 3.

We saw some improvement in the middle of her medicine trail as stool was coming out without any blood, until she started throwing up the medicine. Stopped the medicine for two days and now on Tylan Powder, not Nutramax. She’s also going to be on Hydrolyzed Protien from Royal Canin, recommended by vet.

In addition, it seems my dog is breaking out with something that looks like it might be a mites issue in the middle of her medication trail. We’re showering her every 3 days with antiparasitic/antiseborrheic soap and sulfur bar soap.

I know I should probably let the medication play out and continue showering her to fight her bumps on skin, but I’m worried because today is the first day she’s been on the calmer side. Before today she’s been active, runs, plays catch, eats and drinks water. Anyone who has gone through something like this or recommends any other ideas, I’d love to hear them please and thanks.

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she has tendencies to lick around her body a lot at night before bed. Her paws, legs, and etc. I took her two two vets and she tested negative for parasites. She had a false positive for parvo, the vet confirmed it was a false positive. Also I’m 22, college student, not the richest guy out here. Prepare me financially or give the best advice that won’t hurt me as hard financially. I know I made a decision getting my girl, but I’d love to try any remedies or tricks before going into the costlier things. Thanks and much love.


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Just my opinion here - But its way past time messing around with your Vet and I would get her to a pet hospital and see a internal medicine vet .

Stress can cause diarrhea - What is causing it ? First thing I think of when looking at the pictures is a Thyroid problem , there are in house tests which are not very reliable - I would have a full blood work done on her along with the thyroid panel and have it sent off to a lab .

Diarrhea can cause dehydration in dogs .

As far as cost ? You can't cut corners with any of this and it all depends on just what they find .

Keep us posted and good luck
 

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How old is she?

Blood in stool and vomit is an irritation of the stomach and the lining. What are you feeding her? I'd probably switch to some lean ground beef, rice and a tablespoon of real pumpkin. I'd also get her on a probiotic.

What we need to know is EXACTLY what tests were run.

The skin looks like a staph or some sort of infection. I wouldn't think those baths would work and every 3 days is too often and I've never heard a vet suggest that.

I think finding the issue to this is going to be expensive. She likely needs to see a specialist. Have you spoken to her breeder? Have they dealt with this issue or something similar?

As far as money goes you can apply for Care credit or you can think about releasing/rehoming her to a rescue to pay for her care.
 

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Poor baby. :( If there were no bloody stools or vomiting I would say it's a very nasty food allergy... Something that could help with the itch is quercetin (A safe dosing guideline for quercetin is 5-10 mg per pound /0,45Kg of body weight, which can be given twice a day). Try changing the food to a raw one with some type of protein that was not before in her food. I truly hope she will get better.
 

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How old is she?

Blood in stool and vomit is an irritation of the stomach and the lining. What are you feeding her? I'd probably switch to some lean ground beef, rice and a tablespoon of real pumpkin. I'd also get her on a probiotic.

What we need to know is EXACTLY what tests were run.

The skin looks like a staph or some sort of infection. I wouldn't think those baths would work and every 3 days is too often and I've never heard a vet suggest that.

I think finding the issue to this is going to be expensive. She likely needs to see a specialist. Have you spoken to her breeder? Have they dealt with this issue or something similar?

As far as money goes you can apply for Care credit or you can think about releasing/rehoming her to a rescue to pay for her care.
How old is she?

Blood in stool and vomit is an irritation of the stomach and the lining. What are you feeding her? I'd probably switch to some lean ground beef, rice and a tablespoon of real pumpkin. I'd also get her on a probiotic.

What we need to know is EXACTLY what tests were run.

The skin looks like a staph or some sort of infection. I wouldn't think those baths would work and every 3 days is too often and I've never heard a vet suggest that.

I think finding the issue to this is going to be expensive. She likely needs to see a specialist. Have you spoken to her breeder? Have they dealt with this issue or something similar?

As far as money goes you can apply for Care credit or you can think about releasing/rehoming her to a rescue to pay for her care.
I spent all last night looking up cases that might make sense, and I found a link between one Doberman and mine. Lola was originally eating Merrick Limited Ingredient diet, I switched her over to Kirkland Natures Domain Salmon recipe about two months ago. From what I’ve read you’re not suppose to switch foods quickly, that you have to slowly transition them into the new food other wise their body could react to it.

It seems to make the most sense because this all started two month ago, which is around when I switched the diet. If what Lola has on her skin it could probably be a staph infection that is usually caused by allergies. Same thing applies to the jelly-like blood from her stool in the pictures. Switching her food could have upset her stomach and GI, that’s where the stress would be at. It would make the most sense because like I said she’s been a active dog throughout this whole thing, still runs, plays with our neighbors German shepherd full out and still acts normal. I think the vet recommended Hydrolyzed Protein food will help.

what I am going to see is if I can get some medicine for her infection, but I think it really could be just a bad case of allergies. She’s only 1 year and 7 months old.
 

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I spent all last night looking up cases that might make sense, and I found a link between one Doberman and mine. Lola was originally eating Merrick Limited Ingredient diet, I switched her over to Kirkland Natures Domain Salmon recipe about two months ago. From what I’ve read you’re not suppose to switch foods quickly, that you have to slowly transition them into the new food other wise their body could react to it.

It seems to make the most sense because this all started two month ago, which is around when I switched the diet. If what Lola has on her skin it could probably be a staph infection that is usually caused by allergies. Same thing applies to the jelly-like blood from her stool in the pictures. Switching her food could have upset her stomach and GI, that’s where the stress would be at. It would make the most sense because like I said she’s been a active dog throughout this whole thing, still runs, plays with our neighbors German shepherd full out and still acts normal.

what I am going to see is if I can get some medicine for her infection, but I think it really could be just a bad case of allergies. She’s only 1 year and 7 months old.
and she got tested for all virals and parasites twice, to which she came out negative to.
 

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Id take her to an animal hospital as well and see whats going on at least continue to troubleshoot until you receive an answer as to what it may be.

The food switch always sounds promising but sometimes theres something else going on.

If you dont have pet insurance it may be a good time to put her on and incur the charges of troubleshooting and treatment. Im sure youll be ahead and wont have worries of treating her for a few hundred or less a month


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Some of what you describe sounds like it could be an allergy, but like Gretchen said--it looks severe. I think your next step is to go to a vet dermatologist/allergist. Bathing her is not likely to resolve the problem and may even be making her skin inflammation worse.

If you cannot find an allergist, you can try a vet school to help figure out what is going on. They sometimes can be cheaper (not always) but you will have access to specialists of all sorts. That might be useful in this case where you are not sure if it is an allergic condition or something else which is causing the symptoms.
Saving Money on Veterinary Care at a Vet School (vetinfo.com)

Once a specialist diagnoses and recommends a treatment, your general vet can sometimes continue the treatment with phone consults to the specialist as needed.
 

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Your going t hake your head at this one - But it there any chance she has fleas - they can lay larva in the skin Fleas are great at transmitting allergies or causing them - the blood , to me is coming from the upper GI - if I remember this right , the dark colored one comes for the lower GI , Allergies can upset her GI tract and what ever it is causing the skin problem is most likely causing the GI deal - I really don't think it can be the food at this time , but hey , I'm no Vet either , the blood is a big concern and I still would seek more advance help soon than later ( that means today ) good luck
 

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You've got it backwards, ECIN. Dark (blackish tarry) stools may come from bleeding in the upper GI (stomach, small intestines), the red more fresh looking blood is from lower GI bleeding (large intestines, colon). Additionally, if the vomit looks like coffee grains, there may be bleeding in the stomach.

Dogs can have fresh blood in their stool merely because they are eating a lot of junk like grass, grass seeds, garbage. etc, or from worms, infections, cancers (generally found in older dogs) as well as allergies. Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) is another possibility--once you have ruled out other causes, there are some more specialized tests (intestinal biopsy, endoscope exploration) that can be done to diagnose it.

Canine Colitis - An Inflammation of the Colon in Dogs (pethealthnetwork.com)

Just think of the blood being processed as it goes through the digestive tract--the less "processed" it is, the fresher it looks, hence the further along the GI tract it is originating.
 

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I'm afraid you simply can't "self-diagnose" using the internet. You really need a veterinarian's help. I would be pretty concerned at what you're seeing with your dog and would be looking for help. There are some low-cost vet options out there, or options like Care Credit, as Gretchen Red mentioned.
 

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One of the things I find concerning is the array of symptoms and all of the things that look like her immune system is kind of going belly up with things getting better briefly with changes in "treatment" and then getting worse again.

Before you start it you might as well bite the bullet and apply for care credit because if it was my dog I'd be either going to a vet school (mostly because as someone already said--they have lots of specialist and don't hesitate to bring in a specialist to see if who ever has been looking at your girl might be missing something. That will tend to be expensive. The alternate if there was a good one your regular vet might recommend would be an internest specialist.

I get pretty nervous about blood in the stool and it is bleeding from the colon that tends to be red--hasn't been around and through enough digestive processes to change the color a lot. Dark to black stuff showing up in stool is likely anywhere from the stomach down the GI tract.

IBD is certainly a possibility--my IBD cat had enough bright red slimey stuff with her stools that my regular vet did an endoscopy pretty immediately and that got us a diagnosis and something we could actually treat--although with IBS and IBD that tends to be a matter of rigid control rather than a treatment.

There are some immune mediated things that have this sort of array of symptoms and you really do need to involve a specialist I think.

I hope it's none of the above and you'll get someone checking her out and it'll turn out to be easily treatable--sometimes just geting a diagnosis is the biggest problem.

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Took her to hospital and doctor put her on Cephalexin 500mg and said he’s going to sedate her, run fungal and various other tests, but in a week.... wasn’t comfortable with waiting a week, but Doctor insisted the antibiotics would help bring her skin condition down until he brings her in for a biopsy.

Tried making an appointment for a dermatologist specialist, however next appointment they have open is May 12th and all locations around my county and surrounding counties under the same company, are also booked until first week of May.

She’s eating and drinking, and asking to play catch. Thanks for the responses everyone
 

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Great news that vet is investigating.
I played the guess games to many times and was so wrong!
Good idea to buy pet insurance.
 

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Hello, I have a 4 month pup called Rox. In the 1st 3 weeks of having him he had stools very similar to that - orangy runny with blood in it and I took him to the vets and they gave him some prebiotic (good bacteria) in a syringe type thingy) and it sorted him out almost instantly.. only used it for a week.. gross pic I know but just for reference.. a few of his stools were like explosive! I also took him off his raw diet which helped him also
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