What do you know about this name?? Or Marienburg's Born to Run?
Kim about hit it all. Mary seems to produce some nice dogs...but I'd hope that anyone who had been in the game as long as she has, and breeding as much as she does would. I found the article in Feb DD very interesting... and not all in a good way, but not all bad either. We are in different geographic areas, so I don't see much of her stuff around here. My Velma goes back to her import male.doberkim said:marienburg is mary rodgers, who is a very big name breeder and has been breeding for a long time. she has a full kennel of dobes (yes, she has a kennel). she does limited health testing (her own admission, see the most recent DD article).
She has been around a long time and has produced some very nice dogs. and some very not so nice ones. she has produced a lot though.
Right, I should have said the Doberman Digest. In every issue, they usually highlight 2 breeders. I really enjoy reading about them. Along with the article, there are usually a lot of ads placed by people with their dogs as they get a discount in that issue.... so in addition to the article about the breeder, you get to see a lot of pictures of what they have produced. Also, in the article itself, there are usually many pictures of their dogs from the past.... which is really nice when you are pretty new to the whole show scene. Louise's breeder was highlighted a couple of years ago and I can go back to that issue and see a lot of her relatives.Ann said:Doberman Digest. It has picture ad's and articles.
Mary lives in Montana now, but lived in California until that move..so we saw a lot of Marienburg dogs in the rings out here for many years.velmadobe said:We are in different geographic areas, so I don't see much of her stuff around here. My Velma goes back to her import male.
RP was a Lex Luthor son, out of a Dexter granddaughter. He died about a year ago from prostate cancer complicated by copper toxicosis (a liver disorder). I think he was 7.TwoDobieGirls said:So where does Repo Man fit into the picture? I heard about that dog before I even had Dobermans.
Marienburg's Repo Man was a Nello's Lex Luther son - Lex is a South American dog. On RP's dams side, she goes back to Dexter Vom Franckenhorst... Mary's Netherlands import. I never saw RP in person ....just photos. From what I understand, he was very extreme but hard to ignore and a lot of people bred to him. He died at age 6. His cause of death is: prostate cancer/copper toxicosis.... which I believe is a liver disorder. I've heard that liver problems are rampant in the sa lines.... can't swear to that. If you look at his pedigree on Dobequest, you can see that he is heavily South American and European. The issue with that is a very sharp temperament....not what most people want in a Doberman in this country IMHO.TwoDobieGirls said:So where does Repo Man fit into the picture? I heard about that dog before I even had Dobermans.
micdobe said:I don't know why the breeder of the male in question should be respected but not her followers? She doesn't health test either. I am sick and tired of the tiptoeing aroudn so-called reputable people who breed and/or own champions. I've talked to owners of champions whose breed knowledge would fit comfortably inside a thimble. Having enough money to buy a likely show prospect and enough money to pay to have it shown utnil it finishes is all it usually takes, or if that doesn't work, save up some more money and buy one that's already finished. Instant knowledge.
Raising Dobermans in kennels instead of as house dogs isn't conducive to well socialized dogs. I'm not sure how much is nature and how much is nurture because of this but I recently met a "Runner" son at show who acted like a spook.
I could be wrong, but I think Runner is co owned by Mary and the Kusumoto's.doberluv said:From my understanding, Mary is not "housing" Runner...he is in different homes with different breeders who tend to follow the theory of not having to health test.
I think more than anything, they're banking on puppy owners not knowing any better. I don't know that region has much to do with it...you don't see too many long term owners/breeders in this area flocking to buy puppies from these people or breeders like them, or even really from these lines. They know better-and they know better than to pay that kind of money for a pet quality puppy, no matter what the lines might be.doberluv said:they are charging these inflated prices because they can. I personally know of a Marienburg "follower" puppy who just sold for $3,800.00...as a PET...they are banking on the region they are in and the fact that a sucker is born every day.