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I would love some ideas if anyone has ever experienced anything like this before. We spent 3 hours at the vet last night running tests and the vet isnt sure what to try next. She suggested perhaps this may be the start of a pyo, or potentially another infection in that region, or a neuro issue, anatomical issue, the differential list is really all over the board.

My kiddo has been stiff/limping in the back end on and off over the past week. it is worse when she first gets up from sleeping. Sometimes it looks like she is weak and struggling to use the back end. I took her to the vet but couldnt get her to show symptoms, of course. She appeared to have slightly decreased reflexes in the back end, but nothing terrible.

Anyway in addition to limping she has these symptoms:

She needs to urinate every 1-2 hours or she will lose control and the urine just comes pouring out of her.

in addition she has minor dripping in-between bathroom breaks

Ultra sound of abdomen is normal

X-rays of spine (did not x-ray the neck), hips and abdomen look normal with the exception of a small egg shaped foggy area right about where her uterus would be.

Urine culture clear

UA shows no bacteria, RBC, minor WBC and very minor crystals.

We ran an NSAID panel and kidney and liver look normal

She has a marked personality change and is super fearful (she is well socialized and has always welcomed strangers and oddities)

Slight exercise intolerance- she gets hot and worn out really fast.

She started her first heat cycle on Jaunary 10th of this year and will be 11 months old, next week.

I posted a bad video of her acting strange with her back end on you tube. its not very good because she isnt walking straight but you can see the shortness in her steps.

Ezri Limping - YouTube

Has anyone seen similar symptoms like this before? at this point I dont know which direction to go. Neuro specialist, internist or repro specialist? :confused:
 

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Hope it isn't wobbler's. The fearfulness could be because she feels vulnerable. She is holding her head ok but the weak back legs and loss of bladder control make me think it is spine related. Would your vet you do a neck X-ray?
 

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You have found one observable anomaly (the egg-shaped foggy area), and I would think you would see whoever was in the best position to diagnose that... my first choice would probably be an internist, second would be a repro person.

Do you have access to a specialty clinic which has board-certified veterinarians in different areas?

It may be that you are dealing with multiple concurrent conditions that have nothing to do with each other. This can often make diagnosis more difficult, since it makes sense to look for a single condition that would be responsible for everything with which the dog presents.

Bloodwork was fine? Tick test was negative? Aside from the fearfulness, behavior and attitude are O.K.? Eating and drinking and defecation are normal?

The foggy area would be bothering me, and I think that I would not waste a whole lot of time contemplating the options. Pick someone and go. If that wasn't the right guy or the right specialty, go to the next reasonable choice. If there is the least little chance that there is a uterine infection, you want to stay on top of that. If there is the least chance that something is growing there that shouldn't be, you want it found; I am half wondering if there could be a mass pressing on her bladder.

Please post an update when you have more...
 

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Thanks for the responses, guys. I appreciate it. We are currently waiting for a board certified radiologist to take a look at the X-ray. My vet really wasn't sure what it was, if anything. Unfortunately I have to wait until Monday for those results.

We did not test for ticks as that seems unlikely (CO is such an arid state), but I will keep it in the back of my brain and ask the vet next time I talk to her.

Her behavior has been more subdued (except for when she is having panic attacks or acting hyper vigilant and fearful), eating slower then normal but still eating, drinking more (but she has always drank way more water then most dogs I have encountered.)

poops look perfectly formed and normal if not a tiny bit hard at times. (which I find slightly odd with all the water she is drinking. Also her urine is always very concentrated like around 1.040, which I also find strange... Where is the water going?)

I do live about 5 min from CSU Veterinary teaching hospital and I am debating whether to take her there or to an actual specialty clinic. On one hand, I think a student might be more apt to investigate an odd ball diagnosis, on the other hand they are still students. On the bright side they have pretty much any diagnostic machine we could need.
I will update the thread when we have any new information. Thanks again!
 

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There's always multiple people overseeing the students do don't think that at university you"will have as student handing you're pet" alone. I would take your dog to someone else, whether it be specialist or university. Either way you need answers and not justwait around and what happens. Sound like your vet is taking correct measures but I would go higher if it wetter my dog
 

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I'm not knowledgeable enough to speculate on a diagnosis, though I did wonder about Wobblers (though she's pretty young for that). I'd probably be seeking a specialist at this point. You mentioned an ultrasound that was done. Was that by a vet certified in radiology, or a tech? Did they specifically look at the area that was suspicious on x-ray? It certainly wouldn't hurt to run a panel for tick-borne diseases.

Lots of good vibes for your girl. Certainly if she's feeling bad that might explain the behavioral issues.
 

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You've had many problems with your girl, seems like since day 1. :(

She is beautiful and I hope she will be ok. Are you in contact with her breeder?
 

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You've had many problems with your girl, seems like since day 1. :(

She is beautiful and I hope she will be ok. Are you in contact with her breeder?
Thank you for your kind words. Yes, we have had trouble. This "bladder" issue has been pretty much ongoing her whole life and we keep thinking we have an answer and then it gets worse or we add a new symptom. It just seems like after 6 months of trying to figure this all out and seeing 4 different vets that we would be closer to it, but we just keep running the same tests and coming up with nothing. Poor kiddo, she is such an awesome dog, she doesn't deserve this.

The last time we saw a repro specialist he said since she hadn't gone through heat that he couldn't make a definitive diagnosis on what he found on examination. there was hope that with maturation she would "grow out of" the urinary symptoms (if the immature anatomy was the issue) but since her heat they have just been worse. Our vet did not feel anything abnormal on her vaginal exam, so even if the anatomy corrected itself, I am feeling like it probably isnt the culprit. I sent an email to my vet, tonight so hopefully I will hear back with a referral to a specialist.

I have been in contact with her breeder who also shares my concern for her and checks in with me if I haven't given her an update recently. They were actually considering keeping her because the grand kids loved her so much and with her deafness in one ear, weren't sure if she would be easily placed. Needless to say, she was the "favorite." Of course as soon as I saw her I knew she was my puppy and asked if I could take her instead of the very lovely bitch that was supposed to be mine. The breeder said she has never seen anything like this before and the other pups from this litter are all fine. Honestly if the vet cant help me, I am not sure what more the breeder would know unless there were a dominant genetic issue and if that were the case I think more people would have issues with their kiddos considering the proliferation of certain dogs in almost every pedigree you see, now days.

I digress...

You mentioned an ultrasound that was done. Was that by a vet certified in radiology, or a tech? Did they specifically look at the area that was suspicious on x-ray? It certainly wouldn't hurt to run a panel for tick-borne diseases.
Unfortunately the ultra sound was prior to the x-ray. It was performed by a Veterinarian, though and they were looking in that general area for problems. If the radiologist isnt sure about the spot on the X-ray I am guessing we will do another ultra sound. yippee!
 
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