Thanks to you all for welcomes, I am just trying to find my way around the site, that's after clearing the poop of course. It's interesting to read the different points of view from over the pond, especially interested in the pics of cropped Dobes, I've never seen a cropped dog except in pics. My own boy is all natural, though come October we may be seeing many more undocked Dobes as the law is about to change with regards to docking.