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My heart hurts for you eighmie...

I'm so sorry.

If you decide to treat her, try giving bone broth right along. I have a friend giving her dog chemo and she's giving him bone broth and his bloodwork has been good so he hadn't had to skip any treatments. Her vet was pleased she was giving bone broth. Of courser, check with her oncologist first jic.

I've been giving it to Parker and it is helping his allergies. :)

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I'm so sorry for the news you received on the tissue diagnosis. Sending positive thoughts and prayers to you and Indy.

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eighmie,

I am so sorry to hear of this. Ktrin was diagnosed with the same. My Vet also sent me to a specialist who confirmed his diagnosis. I really don't want to bring you down anymore than you already are, but be prepared for the sorrow to come.

I was told by the specialist that chemo would only prolong her life, not necessarily give her quality of life. I chose Prednisone (I am sure I spelled that wrong) to ease her time with me, while I collected myself to say Goodbye.

I went to my vet with the final diagnosis from the specialist with my heart broken and he said check off the bad days and good days on a calendar, and when the bad days outnumber the good days, make your decision. I was selfish and waited too long. She crashed the night before her appointment to be euthanized and we had to make a run for the ER Vet (the specialist) in the middle of the night. I hate myself for waiting too long.

I decided to put Axel down before I came home to find him unable to get up outside during winter.

I am so sad for you. I pray everyone is wrong and she will be okay.

Denise

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What a horrid time for you and I am so so sorry.. If it helps at all to know each and every one of us understand what you're going through and to know our thoughts and prayers go out to you.
 

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Thank you all, so much. I will write more personal responses later. I've been meaning to respond all week, but I've also spent most of the week in denial. Well, not denial, maybe just numb is a better word.

Indy has had a really good week, but last night her back legs were really stiff when she would walk and they are still like that today. Her first chemo appointment is at 1:30 today. I have a ton of questions written down and hopefully we get some good info. One major concern is how toxic her urine and feces will be when going through treatment. Now, Roxy and Dexter do not ever eat feces, so I'm not worried about that. But, I guess there is a concern if she has an accident in the house and what we have to do to clean it up, as well as leaving her feces outside for x amount of time before I can clean it up. I could be worrying unnecessarily, but with two other dogs in the house, I just want to know what we're dealing with and how to handle it. If we have to split the back yard in half with temporary fencing, that's what we will do. For daytime, we are planning to use the x-pen that Dexter used to use, then we used for Roxy on her last round of pred. Pretty sure Indy will not love that, as she's had most-of-the-house-access for at least 11 years now.

I made a binder for Indy. So far, all it has is the information from the oncologist, a calendar so we can document how she's doing, what she's eating/drinking, etc. and pages for other notes. I still can't believe this is happening. I'm hoping with everything that I have that the oncologist is right and she does get a good quality of life with her treatments.
 

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I’m so sorry this is happening for you folks. I really have no words for this... but we’ll be thinking of you guys.
 

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My heart hurts for you eighmie...

I'm so sorry.

If you decide to treat her, try giving bone broth right along. I have a friend giving her dog chemo and she's giving him bone broth and his bloodwork has been good so he hadn't had to skip any treatments. Her vet was pleased she was giving bone broth. Of courser, check with her oncologist first jic.

I've been giving it to Parker and it is helping his allergies. :)

Bone Broth For Dogs? Here's Why It's A Great Idea!
Thank you, Linda. I guess the good news is, so far, this has been much worse on us humans than it has been for Indy. Now, regarding the bone broth, do you have advice on what kind of bones to get? I'm a vegan and have zero experience there. Roxy's holistic vet also mentioned bone broth being good for her and her Wobblers, and I didn't even think to ask about what kind of bones or how on earth I'm supposed to make the stuff.

eighmie,

I am so sorry to hear of this. Ktrin was diagnosed with the same. My Vet also sent me to a specialist who confirmed his diagnosis. I really don't want to bring you down anymore than you already are, but be prepared for the sorrow to come.

I was told by the specialist that chemo would only prolong her life, not necessarily give her quality of life. I chose Prednisone (I am sure I spelled that wrong) to ease her time with me, while I collected myself to say Goodbye.

I went to my vet with the final diagnosis from the specialist with my heart broken and he said check off the bad days and good days on a calendar, and when the bad days outnumber the good days, make your decision. I was selfish and waited too long. She crashed the night before her appointment to be euthanized and we had to make a run for the ER Vet (the specialist) in the middle of the night. I hate myself for waiting too long.

I decided to put Axel down before I came home to find him unable to get up outside during winter.

I am so sad for you. I pray everyone is wrong and she will be okay.

Denise

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Thank you, Denise. I know this stuff is so hard to talk about, so I really appreciate everyone who has shared their experiences with me.

We do have a calendar for Indy. I made a binder to keep track of everything. I know it won't stay this way forever, but she is doing so well. That said, her first night of treatment was awful. Her breathing was very bad, she couldn't stay awake, then she'd startle herself with her breathing. It was bad. We stayed on the floor with her until she seemed more comfortable and had more control of her breathing. The next morning, she was bouncing around like you wouldn't believe. She had treatment the next week, and that one was just a pill, and she did great. She's on a lot of pred still, so she's had a few accidents in the house, but not what you'd expect of an old gal on so much pred. Her next treatment is tomorrow and it's the same as week 1. While I'm hoping it won't be the same, we are prepared for a tough night.
 

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Continuing to keep you guys in my thoughts.
 

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I'm so sorry.
 

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Thank you, Linda. I guess the good news is, so far, this has been much worse on us humans than it has been for Indy. Now, regarding the bone broth, do you have advice on what kind of bones to get? I'm a vegan and have zero experience there. Roxy's holistic vet also mentioned bone broth being good for her and her Wobblers, and I didn't even think to ask about what kind of bones or how on earth I'm supposed to make the
I lost my first post, so this one will be shorter.

Read the article I linked. It tells you how to make it and all the benefits it provides. Organic bones from free range animals would be the very best, but you still get good results from regular supermarket bones.

I use pork neckbones because there's a lot of cartilage in them, plus there's much more meat than they look. I want the most glucosamine (from the cartilage) for Parker as I can get. I don't debone only because I use them for filler as I'm trying to take a few pounds off Parker. They offer no nutritional benefit as all the good has been leached out of them by the acv. You could also use chicken backs, chicken or turkey frames and throw in some chicken feet if you can get them, knuckle bones, most any bones.

I have still not had to do one thing for Parker for his allergies this year beyond the sardines and bone broth. This is a dog who had to have foot baths and rinses for interdigital cysts, nor have I had to use the vinegar water spray for yeast and staph breakouts or prevention.
 

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Thank you, Linda. I guess the good news is, so far, this has been much worse on us humans than it has been for Indy. Now, regarding the bone broth, do you have advice on what kind of bones to get? I'm a vegan and have zero experience there. Roxy's holistic vet also mentioned bone broth being good for her and her Wobblers, and I didn't even think to ask about what kind of bones or how on earth I'm supposed to make the
I lost my first post, so this one will be shorter.

Read the article I linked. It tells you how to make it and all the benefits it provides. Organic bones from free range animals would be the very best, but you still get good results from regular supermarket bones.

I use pork neckbones, four to five pounds as that fills my slow cooker, because there's a lot of cartilage in them, plus there's much more meat than they look. I want the most glucosamine (from the cartilage) for Parker as I can get. I don't debone only because I use them for filler as I'm trying to take a few pounds off Parker. They offer no nutritional benefit as all the good has been leached out of them by the acv. You could also use chicken backs, chicken or turkey frames and throw in some chicken feet if you can get them, knuckle bones, most any bones.

I don't know how much to tell you to give, but I give Parker one coffee cup full, which includes meat, with his morning and evening meal. My friend gives her Boston terrier mix a bone broth cube, from ice tray, per meal.

I have still not had to do one thing for Parker for his allergies this year beyond the sardines and bone broth. This is a dog who had to have foot baths and rinses for interdigital cysts, nor have I had to use the vinegar water spray for yeast and staph breakouts or prevention and those sprays were whole body every couple of days, plus daily wipedowns when he came in from outside.

Based on what's going on with Parker, I believe a lot of his problem was leaky gut.
 
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