[PennyPup]

I think you need to alter your schedule a bit more.



Try this schedule instead:

07:00: Outside to potty.
08:00: Fed breakfast.
08:30: Outside to potty.
12:00: Fed lunch.
12:30: Outside to potty.
16:00: Fed dinner.
16:30: Outside to potty.
20:30: Outside to potty.
22:00: Outside to potty.
04:00: Outside to potty.

Make sure that you play with her when you take her outside. The bowels will move much easier the more she moves. The only one you don't want to play with her on, is the 04:00hrs one. You want her to immediately go back to sleep so play is a no no.

Over time move the 04:00hrs potty break forward by 15 min each week. So next week it would be 04:15 and the week after that 04:30. Over the course of 2 months, you'll be taking her out at 06:00hrs. After 2 weeks it will be at 06:30, the week after just skip to 07:00.
If she wakes up at all before then, just tell her to "shh" softly like you would a baby so she knows you're there but she's not coming out.


She is very much a baby as you know and babies thrive on a set in stone schedule.
I know it's frustrating, but she will grow and her bladder will with her. You just have to be patient and realise this too shall pass.

 

[jhowell]

Be patient. This too shall pass. Enjoy that puppyhood. He is just a baby. Beckham slept through the night from day one. I was soooooooooo blessed because I had to work every day. Thank God my husband works from home most days and he is the one who actually got him into a routine. I wish you luck with your new baby.

 

[Adara]

I used to go out and sleep for my 30 minute lunch the first few months I had my last puppy. He was AWFUL to get to sleep through the night, but better in other areas of puppyhood. It really will pass...eventually.

 

[KevinK]

When we got Dakota, I started waking up early before work, and staying up later than normal as well. Lost lots of sleep. But that's what's involved with a puppy. If your pup is whining, and you're going out, be he's not doing his business, he's learning that if he whines you will take him out. So get as familiar as you can with his schedule, and never take him out of his crate while he's whining.

 

[omikron]

So you know how it feels! LOL! In 7 weeks the trainer will take care of her. Because he is far from my house I have to leave her there so I am going to visit her twice or three times a week. He told me the dog will be a soldier without damaged personality and when I get her back she is gonna be perfekt in the house. So it is not going to last for long this wake up thing, I just don't wanna transfer stress to the dog

 

[Adara]

So you know how it feels! LOL! In 7 weeks the trainer will take care of her. Because he is far from my house I have to leave her there so I am going to visit her twice or three times a week. He told me the dog will be a soldier without damaged personality and when I get her back she is gonna be perfekt in the house. So it is not going to last for long this wake up thing, I just don't wanna transfer stress to the dog

THIS is NOT a good idea at all Best training is for the OWNERS (all of us), not the puppies. And your puppy is still going to need socialization. IF puppy is stuck at trainers, puppy won't be out and about getting socialized. You won't be getting trained, etc. Honestly I'd neer send my dog to a board and train.

 

[KevinK]

So you know how it feels! LOL! In 7 weeks the trainer will take care of her. Because he is far from my house I have to leave her there so I am going to visit her twice or three times a week. He told me the dog will be a soldier without damaged personality and when I get her back she is gonna be perfekt in the house. So it is not going to last for long this wake up thing, I just don't wanna transfer stress to the dog

Yea, it's the same way everyone feels that brings home a puppy lol. I would also not recommend sending your dog out for training, Adara was right when she said you need the training just as much as the dog.

 

[JoshG]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but did you say that your pup is in her crate all the time, except for when she goes out, and only for a brief moment afterwards?
Do you not have her out of the crate to explore her surroundings? Do you not have her out to work on any social manners, obedience, brain teasers, cuddling?

Perhaps your breeder is uneducated, or perhaps there was a miscommunication, but puppies do need a lot of exercise, and a lot of attention. You cannot expect your dog to grow up well-mannered and well-socialized if it has grown up in a crate.

Hip dysplasia is genetic. If your dog has good genes, and good muscle tone (which it will not get from laying in a crate all day), there will not be a concern for hip dysplasia.

Muscular and osteo injuries occur from improper diets (too-high protein, improper calcium-phosphorous ratio, unnecessary supplements), and too-high impact activities (agility training, weight pulling, long-distance running, etc under 1-2 years).
Playing tug with your pup, or hide and seek will not cause damage. Doing basic training, taking your pup to kindergarten, going on 30 minute walks, and playing rough-and-tumble games with her will not cause damage.

Keep the session 30 minutes or less, but definitely provide her with plenty of sessions throughout the day. And when you're done with an activity, why not cuddle together, rather than put her back in the crate? She should sleep happily in your lap as you watch tv, or take a nap yourself.

 

[omikron]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but did you say that your pup is in her crate all the time, except for when she goes out, and only for a brief moment afterwards?
Do you not have her out of the crate to explore her surroundings? Do you not have her out to work on any social manners, obedience, brain teasers, cuddling?

Perhaps your breeder is uneducated, or perhaps there was a miscommunication, but puppies do need a lot of exercise, and a lot of attention. You cannot expect your dog to grow up well-mannered and well-socialized if it has grown up in a crate.

Hip dysplasia is genetic. If your dog has good genes, and good muscle tone (which it will not get from laying in a crate all day), there will not be a concern for hip dysplasia.

Muscular and osteo injuries occur from improper diets (too-high protein, improper calcium-phosphorous ratio, unnecessary supplements), and too-high impact activities (agility training, weight pulling, long-distance running, etc under 1-2 years).
Playing tug with your pup, or hide and seek will not cause damage. Doing basic training, taking your pup to kindergarten, going on 30 minute walks, and playing rough-and-tumble games with her will not cause damage.

Keep the session 30 minutes or less, but definitely provide her with plenty of sessions throughout the day. And when you're done with an activity, why not cuddle together, rather than put her back in the crate? She should sleep happily in your lap as you watch tv, or take a nap yourself.

The breeder who also has the training club specialized only on dobermans, told me to socialize my dog, give her hugs and make sure she sleeps a lot. Her diet is good with vegetables, chicken breast, fish, purina pro plan for sport type puppies, eggs, milk for dogs, etc...
I don't have to train my puppy cause she knows me very well eventhough I have her only since one week. She understands everything and the trainer already knows... so he told me to stop giving her commands or teach her cause mistakes will take time to correct.
Although my puppy has red pedigree with no genetic issues regarding displasia, he told me no to excercise her(avoid stairs, rock climbing, running, etc). Just pee & poo , 15 playtime at home and thats all for the next 7 weeks. Socializing is hard cause everyone is afraid of her on the street so people don't approach ... only the neighbors I force them to touch her lol... so I go near a supermarket I stand there for 15 minutes people are passing around and she is spectating... this is the most I can do now... oh and only dogs are approaching, big and wild ones too, she is really calm for her size and maturity.

 

[KevinK]

The breeder who also has the training club specialized only on dobermans, told me to socialize my dog, give her hugs and make sure she sleeps a lot. Her diet is good with vegetables, chicken breast, fish, purina pro plan for sport type puppies, eggs, milk for dogs, etc...
I don't have to train my puppy cause she knows me very well eventhough I have her only since one week. She understands everything and the trainer already knows... so he told me to stop giving her commands or teach her cause mistakes will take time to correct.
Although my puppy has red pedigree with no genetic issues regarding displasia, he told me no to train her. Just pee & poo , 15 playtime at home and thats all for the next 7 weeks. Socializing is hard cause everyone is afraid of her on the street so people don't approach ... only the neighbors I force them to touch her lol... so I go near a supermarket I stand there for 15 minutes people are passing around and she is spectating... this is the most I can do now... oh and only dogs are approaching, big and wild ones too, she is really calm for her size and maturity.

100%, it is time for a new trainer. If you are relaying the info propperly, this trainer has no clue. Also, are you cooking the vegetables? You're going to do no training for the next 7 weeks? This is one of the most crucial times for you to be training regularly...

 

[KevinK]

Agree. She did her pee only the her first night in the crate after that either outside of the house or in a balkony if not possible to go downstairs. I don't have any problems going out with my dobie , I actually like it. During the day I can handle anything if I get a proper sleep. Also my breeder told me I have to let my puppy inside the crate all the time cause her bones are soft so lot of excercise and games can cause displasia and because she is young she must sleep a lot, puppies grow up while sleeping. So every walk is 10 - 15 min maximum we can play for 10 min after the walk at home and then back to the crate.
Today I will feed her for last time at 17:00 and then at 23 or 24:00 will be the last walk outside. I need the key to 8hours sleep...

This is also pretty bad advice unfortunately... While you want your dog to get used to the crate, leaving your pup in there for extended amounts of time is no good. Your dog needs to be exercised, trained, and needs lots of mental and physical stimulation every day. If you continue doing this, along with no training for the next 7 weeks, you're almost guaranteed to have a problem dog. Not trying to give you a hard time, but I would find some new people to get your info from.

 

[JoshG]

If this is honestly the instructions you were given, your trainer/breeder is uneducated about dogs, regardless of how long he says he has been working with them.

This is precisely why you are having issues with your pup's whining. She is bored out of her mind, and lonely. Would you support leaving a toddler to grow up in a playpen without any social interaction other than changing his or her diaper? Probably not (at least, I hope not).

With proper physical and mental exercise and social time, our pup was sleeping 8+hr nights at 9.5 weeks old. And we didn't withhold water.

I would highly recommend finding a new trainer, and breaking away from these very misguided instructions immediately. Even if you just went around to a few other trainers to ask for second opinions for now, and didn't necessarily change - just go with an open mind to listen to what other professionals have to say.
If you want the socialized, happy, biddable dog I think you want, you're going to need to be doing a whole lot more than what you're doing right now, and now is the most crucial time to be doing it. Set your dog up for success.

 

[omikron]

This is also pretty bad advice unfortunately... While you want your dog to get used to the crate, leaving your pup in there for extended amounts of time is no good. Your dog needs to be exercised, trained, and needs lots of mental and physical stimulation every day. If you continue doing this, along with no training for the next 7 weeks, you're almost guaranteed to have a problem dog. Not trying to give you a hard time, but I would find some new people to get your info from.

I am confused cause of many opinions. But as for the training, why is bad to start training the dog when its 6 month old?

 

[JoshG]

Dogs learn different things are different stages of their lives.
The earliest socialization happens with their litter-mates and dam. Next, they learn about objects and people. Then the most crucial stages of learning are over, and from that point, it is more about refinement of learned behaviours and perspectives.
A dog that is poorly socialized between 7 and 12 weeks will likely grow up to have poor manners and fear issues (whether mild or severe). Any dog can be conditioned over time to be more accepting of certain things, but you will not attain the same level of absolute socialization that you could have achieved when training a young pup.

 

[KevinK]

I am confused cause of many opinions. But as for the training, why is bad to start training the dog when its 6 month old?

It's bad because you're completely skipping over a time when your dog is going to soak things up like a sponge. If you wait until 6 months to start training, it's going to be more problematic than helpful. Training provides structure, obedience, and an outlet for your dogs energy, as well as a way to stimulate him mentally. This is not something you want to wait until your dog is 6 months for. You should start training right away. I would find a different trainer to help you.

 

[sam&macksmom]

IMO, your trainer is setting you up for failure. Early socialization is critical with this breed.

How To Raise A Happy, Healthy, Confident Puppy

 

[StarlightDobe]

Also my breeder told me I have to let my puppy inside the crate all the time cause her bones are soft so lot of excercise and games can cause displasia and because she is young she must sleep a lot, puppies grow up while sleeping. So every walk is 10 - 15 min maximum we can play for 10 min after the walk at home and then back to the crate.

Im pretty sure this breeder doesnt know what they are talking about. You should not leave a puppy in the crate all the time, even most of the BYB out there know that they need to be out around people, other animals and experiencing life.
NORMAL activities, such as walking, playing with toys, romping with littermates, are what all young pups do. And this should continue when a pup goes to a new home. Any breeder who tells a puppy owner to confine a puppy and deny it love, afection, exercise, playtime, and basic training for the first 6 months of its life is an ass. Sorry, but thats my opinion.

The breeder who also has the training club specialized only on dobermans, told me to socialize my dog, give her hugs and make sure she sleeps a lot.

How can you both socialize her alot and give her hugs when she is locked in a crate all the time except to eat and relieve herself?


I don't have to train my puppy cause she knows me very well eventhough I have her only since one week. She understands everything and the trainer already knows... so he told me to stop giving her commands or teach her cause mistakes will take time to correct.

This is about the worst advice I have ever heard from a trainer/breeder. First of all, EVERYONE needs to train their puppy basic obedience commands, regardless of whether or not you are sending her to boot camp or not, which in my personal opinion is a bad move unless she is a police dog, military, or SAR dog. You need to learn how to teach your dog, and she needs to learn how to listen to YOU.

Although my puppy has red pedigree (what on earth is a red pedigree??) with no genetic issues regarding displasia, he told me no to excercise her(avoid stairs, rock climbing, running, etc). Just pee & poo , 15 playtime at home and thats all for the next 7 weeks.( you are setting yourself up to have a neurotic dog, at best if all you are going to give her is 15 minutes of attention a day then lock her back in a crate. She needs to be around you at all times, Dobermans are not the kind of dog you can take out to play with when its convenient for you, they are dogs that require being around their humans all the time, they thrive on affection and attention, not being thrown in a crate and left, no wonder she whines all night.) Socializing is hard cause everyone is afraid of her on the street so people don't approach ... only the neighbors I force them to touch her lol (you force people to pet your dog? add another notch to the neurotic factor .. dogs can tell when people are uncomfortable around them, and you are stressing her by making people pet her who dont want to, she is going to pick up on it and be uncomfortable with it, and stress over that)... so I go near a supermarket I stand there for 15 minutes people are passing around and she is spectating... this is the most I can do now... oh and only dogs are approaching, big and wild ones too, she is really calm for her size and maturity.

(bold above is my comments)

If I were you I would do one of two things ... either find a new and knowledgeable trainer who knows what they are doing, and REALLY knows the breed, or just save yourself the pain of having to take your dog to a rescue later on and find her a home with someone that can give her the kind of upbringing she needs without listening to a breeder and trainer who has no clue what they are doing. Thats my opinion.

 

[OliviaB]

Ok, so somehow I too missed the part about leaving her in her crate most of the time. I agree this is probably why she is so whiney. I keep Gunner BUSY all day!! By the time it's night, he's begging to go to bed lol! Puppies need lots of exercise, training, and socialization. I've never ever heard of raising a puppy like you've been instructed to do, but I can almost guarantee that you will have issues. We had a show doberman at our vet clinic who was essentially raised confined in a crate. He had SEVERE mental issues from it.....he would spin, growl, bark, go nuts if he was confined at all as an adult. I highly suggest getting some other opinions. It will make things easier on yourself in the long run.

 

[omikron]

Im pretty sure this breeder doesnt know what they are talking about. You should not leave a puppy in the crate all the time, even most of the BYB out there know that they need to be out around people, other animals and experiencing life.
NORMAL activities, such as walking, playing with toys, romping with littermates, are what all young pups do. And this should continue when a pup goes to a new home. Any breeder who tells a puppy owner to confine a puppy and deny it love, afection, exercise, playtime, and basic training for the first 6 months of its life is an ass. Sorry, but thats my opinion.


(bold above is my comments)

If I were you I would do one of two things ... either find a new and knowledgeable trainer who knows what they are doing, and REALLY knows the breed, or just save yourself the pain of having to take your dog to a rescue later on and find her a home with someone that can give her the kind of upbringing she needs without listening to a breeder and trainer who has no clue what they are doing. Thats my opinion.

I try to take her in contact with other people besides family members but it is hard, people are afraid of her although she is friendly they say "owh dude, thats a doberman, dont let it bite me" or they cross the street when the see the dog from far away. Thats why we stand 10 minutes in front of a store where many ppl are comming.
We walk and play at the same time for like 10-25 minutes every 4 hours. At home she is playing with anything she finds around me for at least 10min after every walk, don't worry..
Red pedigree receives a dog when both mother and father are champions.
Im researching for the best breeders & trainers since june, for malinois, rotties , german shepherds and dobies. For dobermans all the vets and everyone is suggesting this guy I bought my puppy. His enclosure is top quality. Money was not the issue, only the quality. If he is not good at what he does, then the rest will destroy my puppy... :/ Btw, she is going to take BH, IPO and maybe schutzhund training. So is it relevant with anything of the types you listed before?

 

[Juicec6]

sounds like you don't need a puppy.