Lol. Let's nit pick, shall we? Obviously I meant the parents of the pups - as well as grand parents & great grand parents. You may have avoided the upfront expenses of a very expensive breed, but it is very unlikely that you won't run into major health issues down the road. And yeah, I guess pumping out hundreds of "okay" Dobermans that may or may not drop dead at 4 years old is an excellent way to keep the breed from going extinct. I understand that you made a mistake (although you are fighting like crazy to defend it), and I was not chastising you for that mistake. I was simply stating that the prices are clearly listed on her website and they are obscene for an "okay" dog. That was it. I did not insult you or say anything negative about you /at all/. Just that the price that they are asking is way too much.I'm going to assume (correct me if I'm wrong), that pups from your recommended breeder weren't titled and had proper health testing, but that it was the parents. And BTW I didn't pay $2,000 for my dog, but I did get 100% breeder support and a 3 year health guarantee. 🙄 What do you think a pet quality pup from second or third generation champions, where the immediate parents were genetically tested, should cost? Or do you think only first generation of titled Dobermans should exist?I'm just saying that those prices are obscene. I spoke with a highly recommended breeder around here (a lot of people on this forum have dogs from her) and her asking price for a pet quality pup, already cropped, titled, all of the proper health testing, and 100% breeder support was $2500. And the waiting list wasn't crazy either.
When I interact on rescue forums, the response is much different. I've taken in many dogs and cats over 2 decades that would've been put to sleep. This is my first purebred, and I'm being excoriated here because I didn't choose the "right" breeder for a companion dog, and I didn't pay $2500.
Again, if only pups from titled and genetically cleared Dobermans were bred as companion dogs, the breed would be extinct.
And just as a side note, I rescue too. I foster puppies, young dogs, old dogs. I have helped dogs overcome mange and heartworms, extreme neglect, abuse. In fact, none of my (4) dogs have come from a breeder. I also train several dogs for free each year that come straight out of kill shelters and keep them until a home can be found. I do my part. I deal with the heartache that occasionally follows. But fighting to defend a puppy mill in order to save face is not necessary. No body is saying that your dog isn't the greatest dog in the world - to you. It's just that supporting shoddy breeding practices should be avoided the next go round. Nothing more. Nothing less.