[RayrayG]

Hi everyone im looking for a good dog breeder so I can get my first doberman, My father has had many growing up and im looking to get one. Its been some time since he has owned one, but where he would go and buy the dogs they know charge around 1,800.00 after shots and ears, now I know for a good dog we have to pay above 800 + ears/shots, im looking for a healthy doberman (black/brown markings) not so much a champion bloodline, I just want to her for my home as a pet to enjoy, but at the sametime i dont want a pup growing up to be timmed also. Can anyone tell me what the right price would be, what to look for when getting a new puppy and maybe where to buy, I do live in illinois and i would travel to some states (within 10-12hours away) DONT want to fly a pup. Looking to bring home around Feb/March.
Any help would be great so I know what to expect and to have fun.
Thanks for your help guys

 

[sam&macksmom]

Welcome to DT. Here's a great thread to use as a checklist: http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/47441-reputable-breeders-new-folks.html

On average, pups cost $1500-2500. Ear cropping should already be done for the buyer, by the breeder's vet, so you don't have to worry about finding a vet to crop.

 

[sam&macksmom]

You can also check out the DPCA's breeder referral list but always do your homework. This list should not be the end all, be all of puppy buying

DPCA | The Doberman | Breeder Referral

 

[RayrayG]

thanks for the update

 

[Darkevs]

Hello and Welcome to Doberman Talk!

if you get the chance, please check out a few Rescue Doberman as well. Thank you.

 

[dax0402]

Hi and welcome to the forum from PA.

 

[MeadowCat]

For a pup from an ethical, reputable breeder you can expect to pay $1500 - $2500. If that's out of your budget, I encourage you to look at rescue dogs, rather than getting a puppy from a backyard breeder. Getting a puppy from a less than stellar breeder is taking a big risk with health and temperament. Plus, you don't want to support those types of breeders.

You may have to be patient to find the right puppy. Great breeders don't always have puppies available and there may be a waiting list. Rescue groups occasionally get puppies, too, and there are great adults, too.

In Illinois, check out Illinois Doberman Rescue: Illinois Doberman Rescue | Doberman Adoption | Rescue Assistance

For breeders: http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/14184-recommended-breeders.html
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/53051-recommended-breeders-indiana-illinois.html

 

[RayrayG]

hey guys thanks for the feed back, after doing some "real reading" im going to go with the euro breed, this seems to be a safer line and less health risks, the fees are not a problem when finding a breed that wont have as many problems and we can enjoy time without issues. I will keep you guys up to date and i think a found a very good breeder from britton farms, (still looking) but i hope to show some pics early next year...
Thanks and please keep up the info

 

[MeadowCat]

hey guys thanks for the feed back, after doing some "real reading" im going to go with the euro breed, this seems to be a safer line and less health risks, the fees are not a problem when finding a breed that wont have as many problems and we can enjoy time without issues. I will keep you guys up to date and i think a found a very good breeder from britton farms, (still looking) but i hope to show some pics early next year...
Thanks and please keep up the info

Euro bred Dobermans are no more healthy than American lines, though the backyard breeders who breed Euro lines would like you to think otherwise. If you are talking about importing a dog, you need to be even more careful as there are certainly European breeders that do not health test their dogs.

I would stay far away from Britton Farms:

http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/13968-britton-farms.html
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/30561-britton-farms.html
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/17361-britton-farms-dogs.html
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/6206-britton-farms.html

 

[RayrayG]

no looking to get in the U.S, what is you option on Britton Farms and y? just asking for best info

 

[RayrayG]

nm i see the links

 

[MeadowCat]

no looking to get in the U.S, what is you option on Britton Farms and y? just asking for best info

Did you read the linked threads? Britton Farms is just another greedy breeder who doesn't breed to the standard (advertising "large" dogs) and does not have dogs worthy of being bred. I see a lot of "International Champions" - don't be fooled into believing that's worth anything. Basically anyone can get that title if you show up and pay your fee. The dogs are not extensively health tested. They are breeding far too many litters a year.

I bought my girl from a poor quality breeder before I knew any better. I believe everything the breeder told me. And I'm paying for that mistake now. It's worth your time and your money to buy from an ethical breeder. You should be looking for dogs with real titles and who have had all the health testing. It's not worth the temperament and health issues to buy from someone like this.

I highly recommend the search function here on DT. If you plug in the name of a breeder you will almost certainly find that they've been discussed here. You can also always check by posting a thread in the "Breeding and Breeders" section with the name of the breeder you are looking at and ask for opinions.

If you want a dog from a bad breeder, get a rescue dog. That's where a fair number of them end up.

 

[RayrayG]

ok I said i was still looking and this is why i joined this site, to make sure im getting the correct breeder, do you know of any good euro stlye dob breeders out there, i like the larger look of them.
Thanks for the help

 

[MeadowCat]

Very glad to see you are wanting to find the right kind of breeder. You may have to travel or ship a pup to get a well-bred pup.

A few threads on Euro breeders for you:
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/57478-looking-euro-dobe-breeder-help.html
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breedin...reeder-euro-bloodlines-pacific-northwest.html

Be aware the well bred dogs of European lines aren't actually any bigger than American, but they do have that "thicker" look to them. What are you looking for in a pup? Just a companion, agility, tracking, conformation, bite sports?

 

[the_discowhore]

And keep in mind Euro lines are no healthier than American lines, so the breeder you buy from should be doing all the necessary health testing regardless of where their dogs are from.

 

[RayrayG]

Very glad to see you are wanting to find the right kind of breeder. You may have to travel or ship a pup to get a well-bred pup.

A few threads on Euro breeders for you:
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/57478-looking-euro-dobe-breeder-help.html
http://www.dobermantalk.com/breedin...reeder-euro-bloodlines-pacific-northwest.html

Be aware the well bred dogs of European lines aren't actually any bigger than American, but they do have that "thicker" look to them. What are you looking for in a pup? Just a companion, agility, tracking, conformation, bite sports?

more or less a companion but I do like the agility as well

 

[RayrayG]

And keep in mind Euro lines are no healthier than American lines, so the breeder you buy from should be doing all the necessary health testing regardless of where their dogs are from.

YES this is amust for me, thanks )

 

[RayrayG]

does Bonnie still breed pups?

 

[MeadowCat]

does Bonnie still breed pups?

You might need to be a little more specific about who you are talking about Is there a kennel name or a last name?

 

[RayrayG]

sorry bonnie wittrock, i have tried to email her but her email is no longer working, any info to see if she still breeds dobermans please, thanks
Wittrock Dobermans ! !