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Hello Everyone!

I just want to greet everyone on this forum and start with a big thank you. The forum has already been very helpful with different subjects.

We have cropped Hera's ears here in Houston. However, her stitches have already popped once (from the bottom part on the left ear) and now the right ear is looking similar to how the left ear looked like when the stitch popped (yellow tint and white meat showing). They charged us 65$ to stitch up the left ear only and it seems like they added an extra stitch on bottom compared to the right ear (which now is looking very bad). We are extremely worried about her. She's our first Dobie girl and this is our first cropping. Everything seems to be going wrong with this procedure. Her ears have also been posted and taped already since day one of the surgery (the tech said that this avoids any ear shrinking and ensures that the ears stand better). I can only imagine that the stitches are having issues not only holding the ear's wound, but now the stitch has to hold the ear together under the pressure of the posts. She's back in her regular cone and has no access to her ears. She's on tranquilizers and sleeps all the time so "head shaking" is out of the question to her stitches popping. Please, if you can provide any feedback, I would greatly appreciate it.
 

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Welcome to DT. Can you post a photo? you should be able to upload it to a site like flickr or imgur or even facebook. Then just copy and paste the link here on DT so we can see. Who cropped the pup's ears? Have you reached out to your breeder or local DPCA chapter club for help?
 

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We don't have a breeder. Give me till the end of the day to figure out how to upload the image. The ears are all taped up and it's extremely hard to see. They use a very sticky Johnson&Johnson tape to wrap her ears. The place is called EarTrim and it had lots of positive reviews.
 

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Unless your vet has given you specific directions for your puppy, having to do with the additional procedures they’ve done, extra stitches, etc. (not general “this is how we always do it” info).....

There should be NO tape over unhealed cut surfaces. The cut areas should be allowed to air-dry.

You can use baby oil to help dissolve the glue on the tape so you can slide it off easier. Then allow her ears to dangle or tape them tip to tip over the top of her head until the cuts have healed completely.

Do you have access to another vet in the area who is familiar with the after-care of cropped ears? It might be worth it to get a second opinion about how to take care of her ears post-surgery.

I wish I could refer you to someone local to talk to, but I’m not familiar with your area....maybe someone else here can. Anyone?
 

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Stitches

Here is a picture of her without the tape. They sent her home with us like this after she had popped the stitch on the bottom of this left ear (Saturday). They asked us to take her back to post her ears the following day (Sunday) because the ears were too inflamed after the stitching process.

Hera's Stitches by Rolando Alvarado, on Flickr
 

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Her ears should not be posted with any tape covering the cut edges until the stitches are removed and they are fully healed. That's 95% of your problem here! They need to air dry and heal on their own. Unwrap them NOW and clean them with warm soapy water. Better yet take her to the vet and have them taken care of it and be sure they do not charge you anything to take care of this. This is completely their fault for giving you the wrong post crop instructions. This vet is incompetent and I wouldn't bring them any more business after this.
 

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Melbrod, will the cone be enough to stop her from getting at her ears if I tape the tips over her head? When we went on Saturday, she was yelping a lot when they ripped the tape off her ears to check the sutures. And she had lots of sticky residue on her ears. They did not use any type of solvent to remove the tape safely. There is no other vet that I know in this area that deals with ear cropping like that clinic. They are supposed to be the best in the Houston area. I will be traveling home to the Rio Grande Valley for Thanksgiving and I know a vet that has done some ear cropping. I will consult with him when I go. If her stitch has popped, will it heal on its own?
 

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Oh dear...I don't think they could have done many more things wrong. The tech is wrong--posting the ear immediately after cropping doesn't prevent shrinkage (ears don't shrink from being cropped) and it doesn't help them stand better in the long run.

Also it seems to me that I've heard something about Ear Trim and their crops and aftercare but I'll have to go an look and see if I can find it.

As Melbrod said--those ears need to come down immediately. Use lots of oil of any kind to get the tape to release--work it loose with a q-tip saturated in oil or you fingers and I'd let those ears just dangle--I wouldn't even try to tape them across the top of her had.

Ears cropped by a vet should be an all inclusive price and the vets I know who crop would NEVER charge extra to take care of a popped stitch. But then the vets I know who crop would never post a newly cropped ear and would not be using Elasticon tape on them.

And I have a question for you--did they say anything about removing the stitches? I'm not sure but the sutures in the ear almost look like dissolvable type material. The suture material is certainly much heavier than anything that I usually see used--I did work on a couple of puppies six or seven years ago where the vet did use dissolvable sutures--NOT common practice.

Do you know the name of the vet who did the actual crop? I found the name of a vet in the Houston area who is a DPCA member--beyond that I know nothing about her. Her name is Melanie Walker DVM, e-mail is [email protected] At least her vet clinic should know something about helping you get those ears down without creating mre problems for the puppy.

The tape that they have used to tape the ear appears to be Elastican tape--not only is it very sticky it's also stretchy and so far from the type of tape that should EVER be used on ears (any ears, not just newly cropped ears) that I can hardly believe anyone who had ever dealt with a cropped ear would use it.

Also in Katy, Texas (my knowledge of Texas geography is unfortunately sketchy) is a very good cropper of Dobermans. Kathy McLemore DVM who might also be of help here.

I wish you the best of luck with this-and I am so sorry your poor puppy has had to go through this. I'd also want to ask another vet about the tranquilizers she's getting--most vets try not go give lots of tranquilizers to puppies nor to give them for extended periods of time. Let us know what happens.
 

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Melbrod, will the cone be enough to stop her from getting at her ears if I tape the tips over her head? When we went on Saturday, she was yelping a lot when they ripped the tape off her ears to check the sutures. And she had lots of sticky residue on her ears. They did not use any type of solvent to remove the tape safely. There is no other vet that I know in this area that deals with ear cropping like that clinic. They are supposed to be the best in the Houston area. I will be traveling home to the Rio Grande Valley for Thanksgiving and I know a vet that has done some ear cropping. I will consult with him when I go. If her stitch has popped, will it heal on its own?
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The yellow discharge would be more of a concern to me than a torn missing stitch. No need for the e-collar either. It would just rub on her already sore ears and make her more miserable.
 

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I am having a hard time interpreting your pic. Would it be possible to take and post a few with your girl sitting or standing?

Thanks and welcome!

John
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Removal of the Sticky tape

Ok, I will get in contact with Dr. Kathy McLemore later today. I am going to attempt to remove the tape and the posts when I get home. I am going to buy baby oil and use q-tips to wedge the oil in-between the tape and the ears. After removing the tape slowly, I will wash the ears with warm/soapy water. I am going to leave the e-collar on since I'm afraid of her doing more damage to her stitches and hurting herself. If I see that the stitch has popped on the right side, I will go tomorrow to EarTrim to demand a restitch on her. I'm sick of seeing my girl in pain. I never thought this was going to be our experience with ear cropping. If I do decide to tape her tips over her head, what tape brand should I use?

Once again, I appreciate all the help you all are providing me.
 

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Also, in concern to the stitches being removed, the stitches were to be removed 10-14 days after the cropping. The stitch removal is going to be 30$
 

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When you put the oil on let it soak into the tape for a few minutes . So sorry you are going through this......Hoss was my first post and oh how insecure I was.... stay on this forum..they will help you.
 

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Most pups won’t need a tranquilizer. They get cropped and are bouncing around like normal the next day or so.

Did she get a shot or pills for pain?

I’d see how she does without the ace.
 

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Most pups won’t need a tranquilizer. They get cropped and are bouncing around like normal the next day or so.

Did she get a shot or pills for pain?

I’d see how she does without the ace.

The tranquilizers were so she wouldn't shake her head since that's why the vet said she was popping her sutures. They weren't for pain. We got a painkiller/anti-inflammatory for her for the first 7 days. These are just to calm her down. I hate seeing her all drowsy, though. I rather just follow everyone's advice and proceed with the removal of the sticky tape from her newly sutured ear.
 

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Wow, that makes me sad.
I am no good offering help in times like these.
 
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