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Frisco and his 7 month old brother Ranger got to go to the dog park today for the 1st time! They had a wonderful time. At first they were alittle cautious around the other dogs and as you can tell they stuck togather the whole time.

This dog park had a big pond for them to play in and acres to run around. There was also several tunnels and various things to jump over.

What kind of dog parks are around everyone else?


Wading in the water!



Don't leave me brother!


Going to pounce on some unexpecting dog!


 

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they are just too cute together! I always thought siamese twins would have to be from the same breed :)

dog parks here suck. not that big, and a lot of poor trained/supervised dogs. I hate the ones I've been to.

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I like the second picture also, and the caption! The dog park here in Aurora, Ontario is pretty boring looking. Not really big but I guess better than nothing. All the fencing was donated by one of the local vet. clinics. I have parked my car and just watched how the dog's interact. Sometimes it's good and sometimes I think certain dogs should just not be there.
I take ******* to a huge woodlot down the street, all the dogs are very friendly and the trails are well maintained. You might not meet up with as many dogs but we get a good workout and I love all the walking. :)
 

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Very cute the way they stuck together!! Loved the second one!!!! You have great kids! We have a dog park near me I've been to twice, hated it. Crappy chicken wire type fencing and only about 60 ft from an (very) active railroad track. Not to mention SMALL, maybe 1/8 of an acre, tops, grass is either very high, like a field, or dead.
 

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They are so cute together. I hate to admit, but we don't have a dog park. The closest one I have is a couple towns over. I don't even know where it is there.
 

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AWWWW that reminds me of Duchess and Coco! haha Coco always tries to act like a dobe. :)
Ranger looks always to be by Frisco's side! even in that last picture when he is a little behind frisco...he's almost like WAIT UP!
 

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Looks like Frisco likes water as much as the Labradors do.

None of the Dog Parks around here have a pond, but at least two I can think of have mud puddles. Hanna, my Yelow Labrador, really likes the mud puddles.

The nicest Dog Park we frequent is the one in Palm Springs. It's big enough (five acres), has nice, short grass, a plastic wading pool, and is scenic too. It has about 20 antique fire hydrants around the perimeter so the male dogs have something to mark besides the tables and chairs. But the best thing is it's right across the street from the Airport so the Dogs can make all the noise they want and no one will care. And there are always a bunch of Dogs, like at least 50, there.

The ones close to home aren't quite so nice. One has grass so tall the poo gets lost in it, and when I do manage to find it it's real hard to pick up. The other one has no shade at all and nothing for the male dogs to mark except the benches. Both are so small I can chuck a tennis ball all the way across and over the fence. But the folks who frequent them are generally responsible, good Dog owners.
 

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The Lewis Morris DP near Morristown, NJ is better than some I've seen. It used to be a parking lot, about 3/4 of it is pavement, 1/4 grass. Lots of trees around because it is part of the Jockey Hollow National Park system. Benches that the humans can share w/ their dogs. Walking trails (on leash) surround the dp. Could use a wading pool or even a hose bib. Plenty of poop bags donated by a local dog agency.

As you know, the problems aren't the dogs, it's the owners. People don't understand that you have to let dogs be dogs - they will work out any hierarchy/pack issues on their own very quickly.

Has anyone else noticed that any 'problems' aren't often created by the 'dominant' breeds? The problems are created either by submissive dogs (doodles seem to be at the top of this list - they walk 20 feet into the park and then fold and expose their bellies) or small dogs who insist on charging (or mounting) large breeds. Then when the large breed turns on the little runt after the 37th time he has tried to mount her, the owners behave as though the action was unprovoked. Makes you want to set these people in front of Cesar Milan's 'Dog Park Etiquette' segment.
 

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Ranger and Frisco were pups together, we rescued Ranger from a shelter when Frisco was 3 months old and they have been inseparable ever since. Doesn't mean that they don't act like little boys sometimes. Always wanting what the other one has even if it is the same bone or toy. But they are starting to learn that there is plenty of toys and bones to go around.

The dog park we go to doesn't have alot of grass or trees. Guess that is what I get for living in Oklahoma, but the weather is usually pretty nice year round.

As for other dogs I have to agree that the small to medium dogs cause most of the problems. Frisco walked over to a small mutt to sniff him and say hello and the dog just went balistic and of course everyone yelled at me and my dog. Funny thing was that Ranger was right beside me and decided he would go over and tell off (bark) at the people that were yelling at Frisco. We decided to go to a different side of the park with the more "civilized" crowd. lol.
 

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Has anyone else noticed that any 'problems' aren't often created by the 'dominant' breeds? The problems are created either by submissive dogs
I also notice some overpowering dogs during introductions...they dont take it slow...and just go right to digging for gold! lol
Duchess loves running and walking and chasing with other dogs...but sometimes the overpowering introductions is enough to not take her anymore...
don't they say that you should walk them around the trail on the leash in heel position first and then allow them to go off leash...I think if owners that had the dogs that just run right up to some dog right away would benefit from that.
but yes little dogs can definately be difficult...when they charge up to dogs and act big lol.
like I said duchess loves the company and enjoys playing and running around...she mostly sticks right by me unless she is running...but she listens when i call her...and I never know if she is at fault for sometimes trying to "tell the dog off" or if it is the overpowering...which just includes whipping her head around...and just trying to chase him off alittle nothing serious...
I know mounting and all that is a normal dog thing...but some dogs do it and some dogs don't ...and i feel if a dog knows how to do its own thing, listen and occassionally play...then it should be the "uncontrollable, charging, overpowering" dog owners at fault...I dont know...
I dont like the ticks...so I just do go to the dog park anymore...even though duchess loved it soooo much...she has friends she can visit and invite over lol.
 

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Sadly our backyard isn't the biggest so the only time frisco really gets to let loose is at the dog park.

I think everyone that doesn't own a Doberman is scared or intemidiated by them and assume that they are aggressive and at fault. My Frisco wouldn't hurt a fly...in fact he is scared of flies!
 

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JavasMom said:
As you know, the problems aren't the dogs, it's the owners. People don't understand that you have to let dogs be dogs - they will work out any hierarchy/pack issues on their own very quickly.
Not true. You would never want to throw certain dogs together and let them "work things out". I can think of many examples when that is NOT suggested and individuals will get hurt or worse.
It is our job to be leaders and protectors, not to sit by passively and see what happens.
It is also our job to know canine behavior at the same time and train our dogs. Many people don't, which also causes problems.
 

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...and I never know if she is at fault for sometimes trying to "tell the dog off" or if it is the overpowering...which just includes whipping her head around...and just trying to chase him off alittle nothing serious...
I know mounting and all that is a normal dog thing...but some dogs do it and some dogs don't ...and i feel if a dog knows how to do its own thing, listen and occassionally play...then it should be the "uncontrollable, charging, overpowering" dog owners at fault...I dont know...
Yes,some dogs are very dominant in "play" and that coupled with uncontrollable and overpowering is not good, some dogs are almost like bullies, and owners think, oh, that is okay, that is just the way he/she plays and it is okay, but it will cause real nasty problems with some that don't take the submissive role as easily as the dominant dog thinks they should.

Mine play pretty dominantly, but also have good doggie manners and are watched closely when they play. We would never go to a dog park though, for many reasons. They have plently of playdates and doggie daycare experience with other dogs that I know and they get lots of exercise every day
 

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Yes,some dogs are very dominant in "play" and that coupled with uncontrollable and overpowering is not good, some dogs are almost like bullies, and owners think, oh, that is okay, that is just the way he/she plays and it is okay, but it will cause real nasty problems with some that don't take the submissive role as easily as the dominant dog thinks they should.
Last night was the first time we've been to a dog park with Abby in about 8months. We used to take her a couple times a week but she became more and more dominant in her play as time went on. She is definitely a bully and no matter how many times we stop this behaviour, she will not play any other way. We took her last night just because it was kind of rainy and we knew hardly anyone would be there. As soon as we saw her starting to get rough, we called it a day. We originally stopped going because I couldn't handle the stress of the situation anymore!

Frisco, glad to see you have success at the dog park - on a good day it sure is great exercise for the dogs.
 
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