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So I have a 7 week old akc blue doberman puppy I will be getting her ears cropped in about a week and a half. I'm having trouble finding any type of regulations on what the crop has to be in order to show.I am new to dobermans and showing so I was hoping someone who is familiar with shows and accepted show crops could help me out. thanks!!
 

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WOW breeders don't really grade litters for show puppies til 8 weeks. Has the breeder ever shown or had any dogs finish??? I just hate to see you waste your time and money if the puppy is not a good show prospect.

A good show breeder would have definitley done the ears and never taken a chance that they would be messed up. It takes a very experienced vet who knows how to crop show puppies correctly. GoshI just hope you can find a vet that can even do a decent job cropping as they are becoming a real rarity.

I would talk to your breeder and see how she determined that was a show prospect at that age??? and what she revcommends for cropping. A breeder who does it right should always be your first and best resource.

If you post the area you live in however maybe someone here will know someone. We will al be happy to help you but we also don't want to see you greatly disappointed because you did not have a real show prospect.
 

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WOW breeders don't really grade litters for show puppies til 8 weeks. Has the breeder ever shown or had any dogs finish??? I just hate to see you waste your time and money if the puppy is not a good show prospect.

A good show breeder would have definitley done the ears and never taken a chance that they would be messed up. It takes a very experienced vet who knows how to crop show puppies correctly. GoshI just hope you can find a vet that can even do a decent job cropping as they are becoming a real rarity.

I would talk to your breeder and see how she determined that was a show prospect at that age??? and what she revcommends for cropping. A breeder who does it right should always be your first and best resource.

If you post the area you live in however maybe someone here will know someone. We will al be happy to help you but we also don't want to see you greatly disappointed because you did not have a real show prospect.
This. Who is your breeder?
I don't know many show breeders who breed dilutes.
 

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WOW breeders don't really grade litters for show puppies til 8 weeks. Has the breeder ever shown or had any dogs finish??? I just hate to see you waste your time and money if the puppy is not a good show prospect.

A good show breeder would have definitley done the ears and never taken a chance that they would be messed up. It takes a very experienced vet who knows how to crop show puppies correctly. GoshI just hope you can find a vet that can even do a decent job cropping as they are becoming a real rarity.

I would talk to your breeder and see how she determined that was a show prospect at that age??? and what she revcommends for cropping. A breeder who does it right should always be your first and best resource.

If you post the area you live in however maybe someone here will know someone. We will al be happy to help you but we also don't want to see you greatly disappointed because you did not have a real show prospect.
I'm also with this.

A reputable breeder will take care of the crop for you and the chance of getting a legitimate show puppy out of a less than stellar breeder is slim to none. It sounds like you probably have the puppy but if she is not yet in your possession I'd consider passing and looking for a pup from a different breeder if you're really wanting to show.
 

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You will want a "show" crop. Where are you located? Maybe people on here could point you in the direction of a show person to see if your puppy will be up to showing and point you in the direction of a Doberman crop specialist.
 

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She's in Lakeland, FLA--I know there are a couple of good croppers in Florida but I also know it's a big state and I'm on the wrong side of the world to be helpful.

To the OP: There is no regulation on what a show crop looks like. In fact the Doberman does not have to be cropped but very few uncropped Dobermans have ever completed an AKC championship. Four dogs and two bitches I think to date.

Today a show crop is fairly narrow--very clean at the base so that the long lean line of a good head is not deterred by a lot of bell sticking out. Typically the show crop is quite long and has a curve at the back edge of the ear which gives the cropped ear some style.

But I regularly see some terrible crops in the show ring and I see a few finished champions with fairly aweful crops. So as you can tell there isn't agreement on what a show crop should look like.

One of the ways to get an idea is to go to a number of shows and look at the crops on the dogs in the ring--it's easier to see than explain. Florida has several early in the year sets of shows although I think the first of them finished up last weekend.
 

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As far as I know, most of the show people in FL use Dr. Leigh McBride in Wildwood for show crops.

I'm going to have to agree with what many of the others have said, there are so many red flags in what you've told us, that I suspect you didn't buy your puppy from a show breeder. This is a very competitive breed, and it's just not likely a dog who wasn't specifically bred for the show ring is going to be successful in that endeavor. I definitely would get your puppy evaluated by a pro handler or some breeders before I tried to show it, just to make sure it's actually a good show prospect.
 

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Who is your breeder?
I don't know many show breeders who breed dilutes.
Oh come on Sinister! There are a number of very good breeders who have bred dilutes. Granted they didn't necessarily breed them on purpose but it has only been in very recent times that you could gene test for carriers of a dilution gene and breed to avoid producing more dilute dogs.

I have a fawn dog--a champion who finished with 3 majors, a ROM dog with a number of performance titles who will hopefully get more since we still run him in agility and if I ever retire so that I have time to train another tracking dog I plan on seeing if we can't put a TD on him as well. He comes from a very good breeder--who will probably never breed another litter that could have dilutes in it since she now tests for color genetics on any breeding she plans (unless she already knows what their genetic color is).

For anyone who is new to Dobes--the reason that most of the show breeders avoid breedings that could result in dilute dogs is that CDA (color dilution alopeca) is nearly inevitable in dilutes--it is in some way linked to the colors (fawn and blue) themselves but at this point we have no idea how the genetics are linked nor how they affect the hair loss in CDA. All puppies have good coats so you can't judge what the dog may have as an adult. Dilute relative who have retained good coats into maturity will tell you more than testing for CDA--even if the dog if found to have CDA the test never tells you whether this a dog who will have substantial hair loss or only slight hair loss.

I've been lucky, my fawn dog is six and still has a pretty full coat--but he had relatives who I knew retained good coats as 5 and 6 year old dogs. Do I ever regret sweating out the coat issue on a dilute dog who was being shown? No, I don't. Would I do it again? Oh, most likely not--but I got what I asked for--a show quality fawn male who kept his coat until long after he was finished. I told him at the beginning that if he did that much I'd make him as many coats as he wanted thereafter.
 

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I, personally, would be terrified to step into a doberman show ring with a dog that wasn't show quality for a show breeder. The dobe ring is scary even with a good prospect!
 

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OP-- there is a section of this forum dedicated to showing. If you poke around there, you should get an idea of what a dog should look like conformationally as well as aesthetically to make it in the show ring.
 
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