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It's a red flag when you are screening breeders if they do not include ear cropping in the purchase of your pup, but if you already have your puppy, here are some do's and don'ts to follow when handling ear cropping yourself:

Do: go to an expert DOBERMAN ear crop veterinarian for the procedure. While they are generally few and far between, it is worth the extra drive to go to an expert. After all, you will be looking at the ears for the next 10+ years, and you don't want to later regret going to a lesser vet just because it saved you a few bucks.

You can find a list of doberman ear crop vets here http://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cropping-posting/30612-recommended-vets-who-crop-ears.html
or by contacting your local DPCA chapter club for a recommendation The DPCA | Chapter Clubs

Remember, a good crop job is as much an art as it is a medical procedure. An ear crop done improperly, be it too wide, too much ear leather left towards the tips, or no cleaning up on the bases can give you problems later on when posting the ears and getting them to stand. A poorly done job can make keeping the ear posts in the ears difficult and it can also cause the ears not to stand fully upright when your doberman is an adult.

When you're considering a certain vet, the cost of a crop is not the only thing you should think about--cheaper isn't necessarily better. Ask your vet what kind of crop one does in terms of shape and length. Ask if one crops dobermans often. Other breeds have different shapes and lengths of their crops in order to compliment their heads, so a vet may do a perfectly good crop for another breed but not one that is suited to the doberman's head. Bring in pictures of the kind of crop you like. Ask the vet if one has pictures of crops one's done.

Ask the vet what one does for after care--in particular, how one bandages the newly cropped ears. Take a look at the after-care standards below--a vet who doesn't use the proper techniques for taking care of your puppy's new crop may not be that good at doing the actual procedure either. The more you know about the vet and the more one knows about what you want, the better.

Do: Have the ears cropped when your puppy is 7-9 weeks. Waiting to have the procedure later than this increases the likelihood that the ears will not stand or you will have to post for much longer! Many of these ear crop expert vets are booked way ahead of time, so it's important to call and make an appointment as soon as possible.

Don't: When your puppy comes home after cropping there should be NO tape covering the cut edges of his or her ears. If there is tape over the cut edge of the ears it needs to be removed as soon as possible. The cut edge of the ears should be neatly stitched, free of tape, and the rest of the ears can be taped to a foam cup or left to hang. They can even be taped tip to tip over the top of his head, so long as there is no tape across the cut areas. This allows airflow and will prevent infection while healing. See below as an example:




The ears need to heal with the stitches in for about 7-10 days. Even though some may recommend it, it is not necessary to apply any ointment to the ears. After this time the stitches need to be removed by a veterinarian.

Don't: Put an Elizabethan collar (cone of shame) on your puppy after the ears are cropped. The cone will rub on the edges of the ears and irritate them, as well as lengthen healing time.

After the stitches are removed, the ears will need to heal for another 7-10 days before they can be posted. There should be no raw areas or scabs when the ears are posted for the first time. You'll have plenty of time to post his ears after they have healed. Don't rush the healing process.

Once the ears are fully healed, you may move on to posting the ears. Here are two tutorials that may be good guides for posting your own ears at home and one more for removing the posts.

http://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cro...sting-show-cropped-ears-using-backer-rod.html

http://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cro...ting-directions-photo-tutorial-my-method.html

http://www.dobermantalk.com/ear-cropping-posting/302298-how-gently-remove-ear-posts.html

DO: become familiar with the posting process yourself. While it's fine to have a competent veterinary staff or fellow doberman owner or breeder help you, it's good to know how to do on your own in case you have an ear posting "emergency" and can't get to someone for help in time.
 

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Thanks very much for all of these cropping advise threads. My little girl is schedule for cropping with Dr. McBride in a little over a week from now. While I am confident I will learn to post/tape, these threads with pictures and materials advice are making me feel much more comfortable with the learning process.
 

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TempoStay external ear supports eliminate the need to post in the way you did- or even taping. Translucent when placed-you can have the pets ears up without the horrors associated with traditional methods and can hardly tell its even there.
 

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"Horrors" of traditional methods? Good lord, the PermaStay numpties honestly think using AR language is how to sell their product.
 
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Don't: Put an Elizabethan collar (cone of shame) on your puppy after the ears are cropped. The cone will rub on the edges of the ears and irritate them, as well as lengthen healing time.

No cone, than what would I do about the constant, non-stop scratching?

Puppy just had his ears done, we're on the 3rd day now. Yesterday took the wrapping off and decided to keep it off. I thought it would help better with the healing process and less prone to infection. This is all a first time for me. New mommy to a doberman and ear cropping. Just want to do it right and dont want the lil guy to be in pain or too much discomfort. He hates the cone :(
 

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Yeah- most don't like the cones.
Hang on I am sure more of the professionals in this area of ear stitches will chime in soon ( once they get their butts out of bed)...LOL
Anyway congrats on your new pup.
This is a great forum and plenty of help will come your way real soon.
 

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He's probably scratching because the ears were covered for so long. They really shouldn't be covered after surgery, not for 3 days at least. He will probably scratch and learn that it hurts and quickly stop.
 

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I don't think they should be covered at all until they are entirely healed and ready to be posted. My experience has been that the first or second time a puppy tries to scratch a newly cropped, sutured but not yet healed will pretty promptly stop scratching when he connects with an ear (and really most puppies aren't even coordinated enough to connect most of the time and either scratch air or their shoulder). Recently there has been a big increase of puppies who have been cropped by croppers who cover everything with endless tape and bandaging material which doesn't much help healing and tends to encourage infections starting under all the tape.

The Do's and Don't list for cropped puppies is great and I hope that it got saved as a permanent part of the "puppies/crops" section.

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It's a red flag when you are screening breeders if they do not include ear cropping in the purchase of your pup, but if you already have your puppy, here are some do's and don'ts to follow when handling ear cropping yourself:

Do:
go to an expert DOBERMAN ear crop veterinarian for the procedure. While they are generally few and far between, it is worth the extra drive to go to an expert. After all, you will be looking at the ears for the next 10+ years, and you don't want to later regret going to a lesser vet just because it saved you a few bucks.

You can find a list of doberman ear crop vets here Recommended Vets Who Crop Ears
or by contacting your local DPCA chapter club for a recommendation The DPCA | Chapter Clubs

Remember, a good crop job is as much an art as it is a medical procedure. An ear crop done improperly, be it too wide, too much ear leather left towards the tips, or no cleaning up on the bases can give you problems later on when posting the ears and getting them to stand. A poorly done job can make keeping the ear posts in the ears difficult and it can also cause the ears not to stand fully upright when your doberman is an adult.

When you're considering a certain vet, the cost of a crop is not the only thing you should think about--cheaper isn't necessarily better. Ask your vet what kind of crop one does in terms of shape and length. Ask if one crops dobermans often. Other breeds have different shapes and lengths of their crops in order to compliment their heads, so a vet may do a perfectly good crop for another breed but not one that is suited to the doberman's head. Bring in pictures of the kind of crop you like. Ask the vet if one has pictures of crops one's done.

Ask the vet what one does for after care--in particular, how one bandages the newly cropped ears. Take a look at the after-care standards below--a vet who doesn't use the proper techniques for taking care of your puppy's new crop may not be that good at doing the actual procedure either. The more you know about the vet and the more one knows about what you want, the better.

Do: Have the ears cropped when your puppy is 7-9 weeks. Waiting to have the procedure later than this increases the likelihood that the ears will not stand or you will have to post for much longer! Many of these ear crop expert vets are booked way ahead of time, so it's important to call and make an appointment as soon as possible.

Don't: When your puppy comes home after cropping there should be NO tape covering the cut edges of his or her ears. If there is tape over the cut edge of the ears it needs to be removed as soon as possible. The cut edge of the ears should be neatly stitched, free of tape, and the rest of the ears can be taped to a foam cup or left to hang. They can even be taped tip to tip over the top of his head, so long as there is no tape across the cut areas. This allows airflow and will prevent infection while healing. See below as an example:




The ears need to heal with the stitches in for about 7-10 days. Even though some may recommend it, it is not necessary to apply any ointment to the ears. After this time the stitches need to be removed by a veterinarian.

Don't: Put an Elizabethan collar (cone of shame) on your puppy after the ears are cropped. The cone will rub on the edges of the ears and irritate them, as well as lengthen healing time.

After the stitches are removed, the ears will need to heal for another 7-10 days before they can be posted. There should be no raw areas or scabs when the ears are posted for the first time. You'll have plenty of time to post his ears after they have healed. Don't rush the healing process.

Once the ears are fully healed, you may move on to posting the ears. Here are two tutorials that may be good guides for posting your own ears at home and one more for removing the posts.

How to: Posting Show Cropped Ears Using Backer Rod

Ear Posting Directions--A Photo Tutorial of My Method

How to: Gently Remove Ear Posts

DO: become familiar with the posting process yourself. While it's fine to have a competent veterinary staff or fellow doberman owner or breeder help you, it's good to know how to do on your own in case you have an ear posting "emergency" and can't get to someone for help in time.
My Doberman is post 5 days ear cropping and my older Doberman keeps licking his ears. I have heard dog saliva helps with healing wounds but is this good or bad for my dogs ears? Any advice will help!!!
 

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You need to keep him from licking. If that means keeping them separated until the puppy's ears are healed then that's what you need to do. The puppy's ears should stay dry!
 

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Dogs saliva helps with healing wounds is questionable.
My vet discourages dog saliva more problems than benefits in the area of bacterial infection and causing irritation from excessive licking.
Dogs moths are full of bacteria and can infect an open would quickly.
With dog wounds dry is good.
Leave those scabs alone. No picking things off. No cleaning off dried blood etc.
“Leave it” Human!! LOL
Meanwhile keep pup away from other dogs or they will go after those ears.
Dogs love blood and they will lick them raw if allowed.
If you notice problems with the site maybe a dab (no rubbing) of triple antibiotic ointment on the edges till you get to the vet for a check up.
But leave the ears alone. Ears will get cleaned up when the stiches are removed by your vet.
So are you ready for posting ?
Have you elected the technique that you will use ?

Meanwhile here is an article I found for you:
 

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Thanks very much for all of these cropping advise threads. My little girl is schedule for cropping with Dr. McBride in a little over a week from now. While I am confident I will learn to post/tape, these threads with pictures and materials advice are making me feel much more comfortable with the learning process.
Hi what neck pillow do u recommend they gave me a inflatable neck one
 

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Yep...no worries to be out of a neck pillow.
All collars will eventually bump up against that surgical site and it hurts.
So without any collars .....
If that pupper scratches that ear they will learn real fast ....it hurts.
Smart dogs.
Keep other dogs away from those ears if around others dogs.
Dogs love fresh meat and blood.
 

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Don't: Put an Elizabethan collar (cone of shame) on your puppy after the ears are cropped. The cone will rub on the edges of the ears and irritate them, as well as lengthen healing time.

No cone, than what would I do about the constant, non-stop scratching?

Puppy just had his ears done, we're on the 3rd day now. Yesterday took the wrapping off and decided to keep it off. I thought it would help better with the healing process and less prone to infection. This is all a first time for me. New mommy to a doberman and ear cropping. Just want to do it right and dont want the lil guy to be in pain or too much discomfort. He hates the cone :(
Get an inflatable donut that goes around his neck. It won’t rub on the edges of his ears. Both of my Dobermans did fine with them
 
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