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Dry foods may be affected too?

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I just talked with a pet food distributor to discuss switching both Jordan and Summer's foods to both be on Canidae. She told me that she saw a show this morning that it is suspected that dry foods may be affected too and they are investigating to see what plants these dry foods were being processed at????

I'm honestly scared to death. I just lost my precious girl and don't want to think about losing Summer. I'd consider raw but don't see that being realistic for my lifestyle honestly and I don't think I'd stick with it. So I'm talking to my vet about a switch ASAP.

I started Jordan on the Pedigree that the shelter had him on and got him Pro Plan to switch over as I've heard good things about the puppy food and then switching him to adult food at an early age and probably his next supply of food anyway. I want to do this all gradual expecially considering the coccidia. But, with this new information I may not be so willing to switch gradually.

Would the Canidae be a good food for both the active puppy and the sleepy senior?
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Canidae says that their food is for all life stages.
Go to Canidae's web site and read the statement on the home page about all this food recall. www.canidae.com, it will make you feel better about their product. Gaston has been on Canidae his whole life, his mother even ate it when she was pregnant.
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Canidae also make a Canidae "Platinum" food for overweight and senior dogs. I feed All Life Stages to one dog and my senior I feed the "Platinum". I don't know if I really need to feed the Platinum, but I do to be on the safe side cause older dogs can develop kidney problems. The Platinum has lower fat and protein than the All Life Stages.
Here is a quote from Sundolf who is the director of Vet. med. for the FDA.


The apparently melamine-contaminated wheat gluten also was shipped to an unnamed company that manufactures dry pet food. The FDA is attempting to determine if that product, imported from China, was used to make any pet food, Sundlof said.
I just can't believe that some petfood companies would not tests their products before using them.
So Canidae does not contain wheat gluten, is this correct?
So Canidae does not contain wheat gluten, is this correct?
Canidae is Wheat free
I am so glad I switched Isabelle to Innova EVO. It says on the bag in big letters no grain. Checked their website under innova evo dry & canned and no wheat on the ingredients list.
Orson and Phoebe have been on Solid Gold for a while.........also wheat free...Phew!
I heard on the 5:00 news on my way home from work that Hills has recalled some dry cat food.

Peaches was eating dry Iams, but I switched her to Natural Balance. I'm not feeding my dog a food that buys it's ingredients from the same source as Ol Roy does.
Yeah I just heard it on the news as well. The wheat was shipped to a major distributer, and Hills dry cat food was infected also. I never cared for Iams. But I'm not liking Nutro much better right now.
Here's a link to the first recall on Hill's feline dry food. http://www.hillspet.com/menu_foods/Menu_Foods_03302007_en_US.htm There M/D product was just announced yesterday.
Yeah I just heard it on the news as well. The wheat was shipped to a major distributer, and Hills dry cat food was infected also. I never cared for Iams. But I'm not liking Nutro much better right now.
IMO Nutro is not a quality food and it did not make the list on Whole Dog Journals' approved dog food.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis is a great source for researching brands of food
Patches is still over weight feed he Canidae All Life Stages 1/4 cup in the am & pm with a few crumbles of hambuger,ground turkey.turkey sausage,chicken,chicken livers or liver sometimes I just cook it all together or sometimes just one or two together. Wonder if I should put her on the Candie Platinum??? Patches is 13 months old. When I go to Buddy's obedience class going to get Patches a micro pinch collar so I can walk her with Buddy she thinks she is a sled dog on walks makes it harder to control Buddy when she is pulling like a freight train.Thanks for any thoughts oh Patches is a Minnie fat Doxie right now want toget weight off her due to possible back problems in the future.Thanks for any thoughts.
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Patches is still over weight feed he Canidae All Life Stages 1/4 cup in the am & pm with a few crumbles of hambuger,ground turkey.turkey sausage,chicken,chicken livers or liver sometimes I just cook it all together or sometimes just one or two together. Wonder if I should put her on the Candie Platinum??? Patches is 13 months old. When I go to Buddy's obedience class going to get Patches a micro pinch collar so I can walk her with Buddy she thinks she is a sled dog on walks makes it harder to control Buddy when she is pulling like a freight train.Thanks for any thoughts oh Patches is a Minnie fat Doxie right now want toget weight off her due to possible back problems in the future.Thanks for any thoughts.
Patches Mom
Have you tried a doxie site about her weight problems? She is adorable, by the way. You could try the platinum. If that doesn't do it, then cut back on the meats too. I know my older dog, Stormy gained weight on the ALS when I first put her on it. I had to cut way back and was ashamed of the amount I was giving her. Was getting her back in weight and put her on the Platinum cause of her age too. I can feed her a little more of it, so I feel better. Why is it all easy keepers love the eat more than anything in the world?? :confused2
Patches Mom, I would cut out the meat and add salt free green beans instead. Low cal and fills them up. I got Cole down from 104 lbs to 87 lbs by cutting back on his kibble and adding the green beans. Oh how he loved the green beans too!
I heard on the 5:00 news on my way home from work that Hills has recalled some dry cat food.
Hills recalled one and only prescription food. It is MD which would normally be used for diabetic or greatly overweight cats. It is the only food in their prescription line which uses wheat gluten. For a period of two months they bought wheat gluten from the source that has been implicated in the kidney problems in wet food. It is a precautionary measure.

The contaminate found is melamine--this is the base plastic used in a ton of ordinary articles found around your house. If it is actually capable of causing kidney failure we are probably all in trouble. It was the first plastic used to make durable plastic dinner ware. Goes back to before plastic everythings were common. It is a very inert plastic (one of the reasons it's been used so widely.

The FDA has already said that they can't find a reason that melamine would cause kidney failure but are still testing.

And there is evidently now some information out (from the FDA and another health organization--but I don't know which one) that they have not been able to duplicate the findings that there was a rodenticide found in the contaminated wet foods.

Even though I know a lot of people have been bashing the pet food companies who provide the ingredients to Menu foods to make their labeled brands and of Menu foods themselves for not having caught this problem sooner the fact is they did the recalls very promptly--no one--certainly not the guys who make the food wants to see your pets or anyones pets die because of something that is in their food.

Contamination occurs in human food as well--not long ago it was spinach--it caused a fair number of illnesses and a couple of deaths. Before that it was lettuce which wasn't as big a disaster since it was fairly localized to crops from one specific area. Before that it was strawberries.
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The contaminate found is melamine--this is the base plastic used in a ton of ordinary articles found around your house. If it is actually capable of causing kidney failure we are probably all in trouble. It was the first plastic used to make durable plastic dinner ware. Goes back to before plastic everythings were common. It is a very inert plastic (one of the reasons it's been used so widely.

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Dating myself again here-I clearly remember melamine dishes.
And there is evidently now some information out (from the FDA and another health organization--but I don't know which one) that they have not been able to duplicate the findings that there was a rodenticide found in the contaminated wet foods.
Last week they said it was caused from a rodenticide. Can't remember the name of it, but it's one that is banned in the states. The agrigulture dept. held a news conference, but I didn't get to see it.

Then I heard it was from a fertilizer, now plastic.

After talking diets with my boss, (vet, I know you work for one too bug),he talked me onto feeding the Iams. Told me he "knows" where the ingredients come from. He was quite shocked to find out the wheat gluten was imported from China.

Although Peaches did quite well on the Iams, I am not comfortable feeding her a kibble that is produced by a company that buy it's ingredients from whomever is cheapest.
Last week they said it was caused from a rodenticide. Can't remember the name of it, but it's one that is banned in the states. The agrigulture dept. held a news conference, but I didn't get to see it.

Then I heard it was from a fertilizer, now plastic.

After talking diets with my boss, (vet, I know you work for one too bug),he talked me onto feeding the Iams. Told me he "knows" where the ingredients come from. He was quite shocked to find out the wheat gluten was imported from China.

Although Peaches did quite well on the Iams, I am not comfortable feeding her a kibble that is produced by a company that buy it's ingredients from whomever is cheapest.
I read an AP story yesterday that mentoned that something like 60% of the wheat used in both animal and human food is imported.

The NY state dept. of agriculture is the one who said they found aminopterin in the wheat gluten..the FDA and other entities like Cornell and Guelph University are unable to replicate those results. My understanding is while aminopterin can cause kidney failure in both dogs and cats, it would have to be present in much higher concentrations to have that effect than was found in the samples the NY Dept. of Agriculture was working with.

There isn't very much research on the effects of melamine on dogs and cats. so no one really knows what levels would be considered unsafe.

IOW-I think at this point in time no one still has conclusive proof what agent caused all these illnesses and deaths. Clearly it was something in that wheat shipment, but I think that's about all anyone knows.
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