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Doberman vs Pekingese

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Hey everyone, I have two female dogs, my Pekingese (mini) 4 years old and a Euro Doberman puppy 4.5 months old. The Pekignese is going nuts when the Dobie is around. Any solutions?
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We're going to need more detail. Is the doberman a new addition to your household? How is the pekinese around other dogs. What do you mean by "going nuts"?
Yeah, the dobie is a new addition since 2 weeks. The Pekignese barks at other dogs on the street but is friendly with some specific dogs, of the same gender too. I am using crates to keep both of them silent at this time. When they are both free the dobie tries to play with her and she is going crazy and tries to find a place to hide to be "safe". If there is no place to hide she is barking fast and screaming. The dobie is completely fearless so she is pushing her even more and sometimes barks at the pekignese.When I walk them together outside they are just ok most of the time...
You need to protect the smaller dog from the dobe pup and teach the pup to respect the smaller dog.
I had 2 yorkies when I brought home my dobe pup and it took time to get the pup to understand that the 2 little dogs are not toys and cannot be playmates. She learned and now I can trust her around them but it took a lot of work and dedication.
You can't expect your smaller dog to be a playmate to the dobe pup and the pup wants to play so it's up to you to supervise at ALL TIMES to avoid injury. Not easy but can be done.
Good luck
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Doberman pups play very rough it is natural for them your Pekignese eyes are going to need protection especially if you Dobe pup slaps with its front feet in play. This is what I did Dobe in crate Dachshund out loose. Then Dachshund in crate Dobe out also did this for outside time. Then also kept a long line on the Dobe he was taught "Leave IT" "She is little be nice" It is your responsibility to protect your Peake she was there first. It takes allot of work but went Buddy my Dobe was about 2 years old they could be loose together when under my supervision.If we leave Buddy is loose in the house he is the Dobe and Patches is crated. Buddy 90# Patches 14# big difference in size, Patches is 4 months older than Buddy. Good Luck
You need to teach the pups some boundaries with the little dog. You say the small dog barks really fast and screams? That sounds like panic. If your not sure what method to use to show the puppy boundaries, or don't know how to apply them, I'm sure there are some qualified trainers in your area that can point you in the right direction :)
Is there any other way without using trainer's help?
Is there any other way without using trainer's help?

As Patches Mom said... train a good, solid leave it and don't allow them out together unless you can keep a 100% eye on them. Also keep the dobe on a lead for a while and pull her away when she starts to get too rough. Not being able to play at all is a much worse punishment than having to play softer so she'll get it eventually.
This is what I am currently doing, maybe it takes more time than expected.
Yes thought I was not going to make it on several occasions I'm a old lady I made it so can you I have faith in you again good luck. You can also check some training books out of the Library read all you can and read some more only do what you are comfortable doing if something does not sound right do not do it use your common sense . Patches Mom
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Totally agree with Patches Mom with regards to the long lead. I use this technique with my Dobe as he is constantly chasing our Min Pin around the house.

You can also try an empty pop can with approx 10 pennies in it. Everytime the Dobe goes after the other dog and is playing too rough just shake the can and use the "leave it" command. This has worked wonders for our Dobe whos prey drive is through the roof.
I would rather negative punishment (removal of something good), than positive punishment (giving something unwanted - scary sounds).
My concern with the use of a shaker can, or any other startle-method, would be that you may create a negative association between the small dog and the scary stimulus. And wouldn't it be a shame to create a negative association for your dobe?
We have a yorkshire terrier and doberman living peacefully in the same house, and have not had to use anything scary, startling, or uncomfortable.

We encouraged Eva to play on the ground (rather than standing, bouncing, and running around) when she wanted to approach Maya (the yorkie). If she got up to bounce around, we simply took her by the collar (gently and calmly), and coaxed her back into her down position. Yes, we needed to repeat this several times throughout the day. It takes time, and calm, consistent responses.
Eva (as most dobes do) has a tendency to want to use her feet to swat and poke other dogs into playing with her (this pretty well never works, as most dogs just get pissed off). With the little one, every time we saw Eva use her feet, we would tell her "no feet", and move her paws away.

Throughout the first several months, the two were not allowed free time together unsupervised (not that we allowed a dober-pup free unsupervised time regardless), and all play was closely monitored. I spent a lot of time on the floor with the dogs at first, then sitting or standing very close by if I needed to interfeer.
If Eva was too riled up, and needed too many corrections, she would be put in a time-out. Time-outs were either 30-45seconds in the bathroom (door closed), behind a baby gate, or on the other end of the room (away from Maya).

After some time, when she was getting much better when interacting with Maya, if she did slip-up, we opted for a time-out, rather than any redirections. At that point, she wasn't being taught what to do anymore, she was being reminded that she didn't follow the rules. Does that make sense?

Large and small dogs need to learn how to interact appropriately with each other. Dobes can learn fairly easily how to play differently with small dogs, but you also need to be thinking about how to approach your little dog so that she can learn how to accept your big dog.
It sounds like they both need lots of positive reinforcement while interacting. Reinforce the dobe for not being obnoxious, and reinforce the peke for being around your dobe and tolerating play (which, if rewarded frequently enough with high-value reinforcement, should go from tolerance to actual enjoyment).

Good luck with the two of them. Just keep the sessions brief and calm, but do not give up on your pups. They can both learn better social manners with your consistency.
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Good luck, I have 2 Pekes and they like to be the boss, I have a 3 mo. old Dob and it's a handfull watching them every minute.
Thats a great post Josh.

I'm having the same problem with my jack russell and dobe puppy. I never thought of making her play on the ground - but I think this might work as the jack seems much more at ease when the dobe is lying down and not towering over him!
I have a senior Yorkie and a 14 week old Doberman.
give the peke a safe place away from the pup (crate, outside, bedroom) once the peke is 'safe' nd the pup is still trying to be a pain, I would pup the pup in its crate.

Luckily, my yorkie puts Juno in her place. I always supervise and 'punish' when needed (time outs)
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