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What a nice head! Boy that handler must be small, Dabney's Phenomenon looks big! Very handsome:) I must say as Lexy swoons!

Another interesting point I noticed they mentioned is that that it is one of only 6 remaining "benched" shows in the country, where dogs must be on display when they aren't competing so people can talk to their owners and learn about the different breeds.
 

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Lexus said:
What a nice head! Boy that handler must be small, Dabney's Phenomenon looks big! Very handsome:) I must say as Lexy swoons!

Another interesting point I noticed they mentioned is that that it is one of only 6 remaining "benched" shows in the country, where dogs must be on display when they aren't competing so people can talk to their owners and learn about the different breeds.
Agador is a very handsome dog..but not overly large. He's more than likely sitting on a podium getting his win pictures taken when that photo was shot.

Yeah, there aren't that many benched shows yet. I believe there's only one benched show left here on the west coast, in San Francisco. It usually pulls a very small doberman entry.

Some people enjoy benched shows..I just wouldn't be willing to put myself through that. I'm all for public education-but not for 8 solid hours at a crack!
 

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Benched means that they have to stay until the show is over. I went last year to Cobo with my blk lab (Bradley). And won both my classes both days. All dogs have to stay all day until the show is over if they leave and they have won ribbons then they are disquifed and it goes to the next person. It is a very long day for them and the potty area is gross.I didn't go thisyears cause it is so expensive. You bring in crates and line them up They already have them signed to you. Dobe's are in one area and Labs are in another area.

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What a nice head! Boy that handler must be small, Dabney's Phenomenon looks big! Very handsome:) I must say as Lexy swoons!

Another interesting point I noticed they mentioned is that that it is one of only 6 remaining "benched" shows in the country, where dogs must be on display when they aren't competing so people can talk to their owners and learn about the different breeds.
 

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He is a nice looking boy - he shows in my area for the most part. I personally like his father better, and very often if the two of them are showing against each other, the father wins. Agador (Ch. Dabney's Phenomenon) is owned and bred by Linda Krukar - she is also a Doberman judge herself. I don't know her peronally - I've just seen her at the shows. He is not oversized at all, just a pretty nice standard guy!

His sires name is Ch. Eastwicks Meadow Monster a/k/a Monty. Monty won BOB at Westminster this year.

Of course, my favorite dog out there is Louise's daddy, but he has not been shown as a special. My second favorite is a dog that he sired. CH Niklby's Black By Popular Demand. His breeder/owner shows him occasionally and also shows in Rally. It is just so expensive to special a dog that some really wonderful examples of the breed never go beyond getting the Championship. I know I could not afford it even if I had the next Indy.
 

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Like Cheryl said, Agador's not a big dog. I was suprised, too. He and Cyrus were in the ring together at the Cleveland shows, and Cyrus is actually a tad bit bigger --- and Cyrus isn't a big dog. Agador is Cy's nephew - he and Monty are half-brothers.

We went to the show at Cobo when Cyrus was a puppy - parking is a nightmare!
 

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Agador is a very handsome dog..but not overly large. He's more than likely sitting on a podium getting his win pictures taken when that photo was shot.

Yeah, there aren't that many benched shows yet. I believe there's only one benched show left here on the west coast, in San Francisco. It usually pulls a very small doberman entry.

Some people enjoy benched shows..I just wouldn't be willing to put myself through that. I'm all for public education-but not for 8 solid hours at a crack!

Ahh, I see.

That is a long time to stay on display, more or less. I used to show horses and I can't imagine basically staying suited up long after my class was over. Makes for an exhausting day I'm sure.
 

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i adore agadors head... and i think he gives good kisses too :)
 

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Like Cheryl said, Agador's not a big dog. I was suprised, too. He and Cyrus were in the ring together at the Cleveland shows, and Cyrus is actually a tad bit bigger --- and Cyrus isn't a big dog. Agador is Cy's nephew - he and Monty are half-brothers.

We went to the show at Cobo when Cyrus was a puppy - parking is a nightmare!
Okay..now I know who Blackdog is, LOL! It never connected with me before.
 

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At least in that photo Agador's head seems to lack underjaw. I went to a dog show last weekend for the first time in years and was talking to a handler about that and about how people are pointing to that kind of head as beautiful. She said that's what the heads look like now, but that those of us who have been around for awhile and remember other more correct heads can't get on that bandwagon.
 

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Ahh, I see.

That is a long time to stay on display, more or less. I used to show horses and I can't imagine basically staying suited up long after my class was over. Makes for an exhausting day I'm sure.
The only benched show I have shown at is the Philadelphia Kennel Club show in November - it is a 2 day benched show. You have to be in the building by a certain time... I think 10 am on Saturday and 11 am on Sunday. On Saturday you cannot leave till 5pm and 3 pm on Sunday. The show is still going on at that point - some groups and Best In Show. They have actual raised benches where you put your crate(s) and they keep the breeds together in long aisles marked with the breeds so that the public can find the breeds they are interested in. You are assigned a spot. All-breed handlers are in a different area and do keep all of their dogs together. I bring a chair, a cooler, and a book, but spend most of my time talking to people: the public and other Dobe people. Many exhibitors do not like talking to the public (some of them are pretty exhausting), but I'm still new enough to enjoy it. The dogs spend most of the time in their crates. I bring a blanket to cover their crate with so that they can snooze. Usually someone would have a Doberman out for people to see. Louise has not been yet, but Velma is so good with people that she does spend a bit of time out for meeting and greeting the public once she is done showing for the day. The shopping is also pretty good!
 

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Murreydobe said:
HI MICKEY!

I don't know why it took me so long to figure out that was you..guess I'm just slow sometimes..
I knew who it was just like I know who Murreydobe is.... I've just never met either of you! Maybe at Fitchburg in 2007 - I know I won't make it to Colorado... Fitchburg looks like it will be my first National. I hope!!

Of course, I don't think Mickey is so far away - Ohio?? But Cheryl (sp?) - are you in California?
 

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IBut Cheryl (sp?) - are you in California?
Yes, I'm in southern CA, about halfway between LA and Palm Springs.

So far I haven't met Mickey, even though I've gone to two different Nationals right on her "home turf". Mickey-are you planning on bringing that handsome guy to any of the upcoming Nationals?

I'll be in Co this year for at least part of the week. My reservation is for the whole time, including the regional before the National. But Andy doesn't show to Tony Dinardo, so I doubt we'll be showing at the regional..and in that case, I'll probably change my reservation to my "usual" Wednesday, day of the futurity arrival. If I'm not showing any dogs, 10 days gets a bit much.

And no doubt, I'll be in Fitchburg next year. It's a really good venue, and my oldest friend lives only a couple of hours from there..so I always visit her for a few days after the National.
 
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