[eurocyber]

Look at that progress!!

Wondering why there's a little fold-in on the left edge of his ear though

 

[dobebug]

Look at that progress!! View attachment 155072


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Wondering why there's a little fold-in on the left edge of his ear though

Yes they are much improvedl Are you posting with just a wrap at the base and one at the tip? Sometimes people find that if they aren't using wraps all the way up the ear they get some funny looking edges. It's one of the reasons I use taping that goes all the way up the ear. However I taped ears for someone elses puppy and she didn't want it done that way (even though it made the ear edge kind of bumpy--once his ears were standing and we finally stopping posting altogether after about a month out of posts the ear edge evened out. (He was posted with three places where his ear was taped.)

Maybe that's all it is.

dobebug

 

[eurocyber]

Yes they are much improvedl Are you posting with just a wrap at the base and one at the tip? Sometimes people find that if they aren't using wraps all the way up the ear they get some funny looking edges. It's one of the reasons I use taping that goes all the way up the ear. However I taped ears for someone elses puppy and she didn't want it done that way (even though it made the ear edge kind of bumpy--once his ears were standing and we finally stopping posting altogether after about a month out of posts the ear edge evened out. (He was posted with three places where his ear was taped.)

Maybe that's all it is.

dobebug

Yes, the very very base of the ear is left unwrapped. I guess since the tape starts right were the indent is, it’s pulling in a little. Thank you!

 

[BOOMERsoonerNUT]

Glad your finding some success. Keep at it and keep them posted. Itll get easier on you and the pup.

 

[MeadowCat]

You've made huge progress.

 

[eurocyber]

You've made huge progress.

Thank you!!

 

[eurocyber]

If you watch the video below, you’ll see his ears in airplane mode, relaxed, and the very end of the video shows alert. I guess I’m asking how “severe” the pockets look, because our current posting contraption doesn’t have a bumper:-

Cyber’s ears

youtube.com

 

[dobebug]

From that video I don't think he has pockets at all any more. I would do some full length post to straighten out the very top of the ears--there is a slight tendency for them to curve in--but it's only at the tip so that's not because of a pocket.

They look very good except for the very tip when she is at full attention.

dobebug

 

[MeadowCat]

I agree with Bug - from the video, I don't really see much tipping in, if any. I think his ears are looking quite good, and you're doing an excellent job. Tremendous change, keep up the good work.

 

[MeadowCat]

Oh, and I think you asked somewhere how to know when they are done? There's no easy answer except that you can kind of tell, but it's also just a matter of sort of "testing" when you think they are. Each dog is different in how long their ears take, and it isn't necessarily a matter of how long the crop is. We generally recommend to wait through teething, because it's safer. You can kind of get a sense of how firm the ears look as you are changing posts. If you start to think they really look strong, maybe you leave them down an hour between posts instead of putting them right back up and see if they look any softer. Maybe the next post change if they still seem really firm, you try two hours. But again, this is if you truly think they are standing well. Since you got started a bit late I would personally probably post a bit longer before "testing" because I'd really want to be sure, but that's me.

For reference, Richter's ears were done fairly early - it's been a decade, so I can't really remember, but probably around 7 months, maybe? Sypha's ears took much longer...I was posting one ear until she was a year old, the other ear was done maybe a month earlier. Leon's ears are doing quite well - I'm shocked at how quickly they seem to be finishing up. He was six months this week. I'm leaving them down today to see how they are doing all day ...last week they were down all day with his post change as well and were looking great. I think they are very close if not done.

 

[eurocyber]

Oh, and I think you asked somewhere how to know when they are done? There's no easy answer except that you can kind of tell, but it's also just a matter of sort of "testing" when you think they are. Each dog is different in how long their ears take, and it isn't necessarily a matter of how long the crop is. We generally recommend to wait through teething, because it's safer. You can kind of get a sense of how firm the ears look as you are changing posts. If you start to think they really look strong, maybe you leave them down an hour between posts instead of putting them right back up and see if they look any softer. Maybe the next post change if they still seem really firm, you try two hours. But again, this is if you truly think they are standing well. Since you got started a bit late I would personally probably post a bit longer before "testing" because I'd really want to be sure, but that's me.

For reference, Richter's ears were done fairly early - it's been a decade, so I can't really remember, but probably around 7 months, maybe? Sypha's ears took much longer...I was posting one ear until she was a year old, the other ear was done maybe a month earlier. Leon's ears are doing quite well - I'm shocked at how quickly they seem to be finishing up. He was six months this week. I'm leaving them down today to see how they are doing all day ...last week they were down all day with his post change as well and were looking great. I think they are very close if not done.

Definitely gonna wait longer with Cyber - at least till 7 months, then we’ll start testing. I actually got pretty lucky with how willing Cyber’s ears are to stand. He’s only been REALLY posted for about 8 days, and they already look a lot better. Before this week, he had never been really posted, it was a lot of failed attempts. Since we had a late start we’re willing to post past 7 months - as long as it takes for them to be done. Can we see a pic of Leon I love seeing age milestones that we’ll be reaching soon

 

[MeadowCat]

Of course. This is last week on his day unposted.

(I try to post reasonably regularly on Leon's thread here: Introducing Leon... Protea's Bring It On Home)

 

[eurocyber]

Of course. This is last week on his day unposted.

(I try to post reasonably regularly on Leon's thread here: Introducing Leon... Protea's Bring It On Home)

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He’s so big! Something I always loved about dobermans was their big head - his ears and ear tips look so straight

 

[MeadowCat]

He's a big goof. Sometimes at this age they do something that seems nice and grown up, but most of the time you have to remind yourself they are still such babies, because they LOOK like grown up dogs, but they very much are not.

 

[eurocyber]

He's a big goof. Sometimes at this age they do something that seems nice and grown up, but most of the time you have to remind yourself they are still such babies, because they LOOK like grown up dogs, but they very much are not.

Cyber still has the babiest personality which reminds me
If you don’t play with him immediately he’ll smack you with his paw

 

[eurocyber]

Huuuuge thank you to @ECIN , @MeadowCat , @dobebug , @BOOMERsoonerNUT , @melbrod , @4x4bike ped , @Konagirl -- Don't think Cyber's ears would have ever stood without the info
Everyone in my house just calls him "doberman" now because he finally looks like one and doesnt have the ears folded in over the head
However, I do think the naturally floppy ears are very pretty! But wouldn't want a flopped crop

 

[ECIN]

Keep after them Euro ! LOL

Maybe need to stiffen your posts a little more to take that curl out of the tops OR are you taping them all the way up to the very tip ?

Congrats !

 

[eurocyber]

Keep after them Euro ! LOL

Maybe need to stiffen your posts a little more to take that curl out of the tops OR are you taping them all the way up to the very tip ?

Congrats !

Not currently taping all the way to the tip as our posting method doesn't reach the tips, BUT we have a plan! Gonna attempt some full posts once the bases are more sturdy. Also - has anyone had luck with those breathe right strips?

 

[dobebug]

Not currently taping all the way to the tip as our posting method doesn't reach the tips, BUT we have a plan! Gonna attempt some full posts once the bases are more sturdy. Also - has anyone had luck with those breathe right strips?

Breathe-rite strip work to fix a very tip which is not straight up--but only the very tip--if you try to use them to keep half an ear from bending either in or out the strips will weight that part of the ear down because the cartilage already wasn't strong enough to keep the ear erect all the day to the tip. Ditto for try into use mole foam for anything except the very tip.

How about some pictures of the posting method you are using that only supports the center of the ear? Is that still the rolled up tape?

dobebug

 

[eurocyber]

Breathe-rite strip work to fix a very tip which is not straight up--but only the very tip--if you try to use them to keep half an ear from bending either in or out the strips will weight that part of the ear down because the cartilage already wasn't strong enough to keep the ear erect all the day to the tip. Ditto for try into use mole foam for anything except the very tip.

How about some pictures of the posting method you are using that only supports the center of the ear? Is that still the rolled up tape?

dobebug

Yes we’re still doing the rolled up tape. I’m just wary to switch posting methods after the success of this one. Only the very tip of the ear is left out of posts. Pictures:

Idk why he looks so sad as if he didn’t just devour an entire lick mat