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So I just got back from bringing Bruno to the vet. Good news is, his face is looking ALOT better and his eyes are GREAT :) He indeed did NOT have mites. Now, I feel bad because I was giving him treatment for MITES. When it was just a seasonal thing.

Which leads me to this. Today Bruno saw a different vet. One he did not know. She's actually the lady that put my cat to sleep :( Anyway, I did not have a warm welcome from her. Or so it felt. I didn't feel she was trying to get to know Bruno at all. Where the other vet he's seen 2x now. Got down on the floor, got to know him before she did anything. Because he is a nervous dog. She saw this, and she took her time. This lady just wanted to get to the point. She had no interest in getting to know him. Which bothered me. But then she just thought she could come over to him with no problems and feel his stomach. He let out a growl. So she put a mussle on him. Now, I don't see a problem with that. But it bothered me because the other Vet never had to do such a thing. Because she let Bruno know it was okay. And IMO that is what they should do, isn't it? I dunno. She was okay, but I just didn't get a good vibe from her towards Bruno. Sigh.

Lastly Bruno has been favouring his back right paw for about a week now. I touched it all up and down to see if he pulled at any spot or let me know it's sore. BUt nothing. So I was stumped as to what it could be. After she put the mussle on him. She felt all around and this and that. Then she suggested that he be sedated so she can further check him. Because he wasn't relaxed. She thinks he may have torn a legiment. She said it's Cruciate? She said it could have happened while he was running and playing at the beach. And if I wanted to repair it, because it won't heal on it's own. It will cost me 2500$ :eek11: Now, I do want his leg to be fixed obviously. He doesn't seem to be in pain. But I don't wanna risk waiting either in case that makes it worse. Because he's still going for runs and what not (which now I was told to stop....for the time being). But with us just buying a house, and all that goes into it. This price just made my jaw hit the floor. So I'm going to talk with my husband and even get a second opinion. Or go for the xray and see IF that is the problem.

Sorry this is so long. One more thing. I asked them what it would cost to get him fixed as well. That was another almost 400$. They go by weight and my boy is 64.6lbs. But they also include blood work and fluids while sedated. So that's where the extra cost comes from. So need less to say this Vet visit wasn't pleasent to me lol. I dunno if that's expensive to others. But that certainly is for my budget right now. Sigh.

Other then that tho he's healthy and GREAT :) She did tell me to give him some benadryl for his allergies. Because the minute we go outside and he starts to sniff, his nose runs. So she said to keep him on that for 3-4 weeks. See if it helps. He did soooo much better in there too. No fuss to go in. He walked in on his own. Greeted another dog and even the kitty there!! He loves cats. I love the reaction from ppl when he goes and sniffs a kitty and licks it's ears lol. All the girls there too kept telling me how beautiful he was. And as I was leaving the one girl said "Aww I want a Bruno" haha ;)
 

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It is good new that it wasnt mites...I know with coco it is so hard to tell the difference between the two. Yeah that would upset me too if they didnt spend a little time to say hello and get to know the dog...and were not talking about playing ball with them for 15 min. lol just a quick friendly hello and some pets :) I think it is a good idea to get a second opinion...but don't mention anything except for what you mentioned to the other vet...the quick question about his ankle...and see what the new vet says not knowing what the other vet told you.:) well if bruno has no doggies to play with maybe someday Duchess needs to make a trip to canada! my mom goes with my grandpa to fish in june. lol I would love to go but it would get too crowded in the cabin and such.
 

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Where abouts in Canada??

I hear ya about being crowded. It wouldn't be much of a vacation if it was crowded ;)

I think I might do that. Only problem is. The two vet offices around here are owned by the same person. So the vets rotate lol. So I'll have to get someone from that office and see if the other vet is available. I'd kinda like to get an older vets opinion. I know age doesn't matter. But what I mean is a more experienced. These 2 vets are young girls. That I'd say haven't been doing this longer then 5yrs or even less. Sigh. I just want whats best for my Bruno. It's rather frustrating lol. I'm already stressed to the max with other things. This isn't what I wanted to top it off with lol

Oh and yeah, I mean just a few pats or even treats. THe other vet was excellent. She got right down on the floor (on her knees) and was talking to him. She'd get treats for him and she'd wait till HE was ready. Instead of pushing him to when she was ready. This vet didn't do that :(
 

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I havent been to canada with them since I was real young like 9 years old probably...so I never really got to learn exactly where...Ill ask my mom later...cause its my mom, my grandma, grandpa, their little dog, and then if I went it would be me, Duchess, coco, and I would want to bring Matt lol
 

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Luvs my bruno, that sounds like a lot to neuter him but I am sure there are different prices in different parts of the world. It is anywhere from $75 to $95 here to get Nash neutered because he is almost 5 months old so I have been inquiring. So $400 sounds really high to me.

I understand what you mean by a vet coming in and getting to "know" the dog at first, I have been to some that come in, do what they do and leave but the one I have now has always come in and talked to my dogs, petted them and made the dogs and me feel comfortable. It makes a big difference in my opinion , it does show a "care" side of them instead of all business and get in, get out and give me your money!

I would definitely try to get another opinion on the leg, is there anyway you could drive to a near by town for a different one? Even if it is a little bit of a drive it may be well worth it.
 

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Did she not mention pano as a possibility for his sore leg?
Yes...I would do some reading about Pano...correct me if im wrong...but I believe the tip off with pano is that is can change and alternate lameness in legs I believe??? It happens to younger dogs only pretty much right?
 

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Did she not mention pano as a possibility for his sore leg?
No she didn't. She only mentioned it could be a pulled ligament. She wasn't that great IMO.

Where can I read up about Pano?

Oh and he didn't show any signs of hurting himself on any of our runs or outings. Even when I feel his leg to try and find the sore spot. He doesn't show any signs it hurts. However at one spot, which isn't anywhere near his knee (where she suggested it was), it's down on his foot. He starts to lick my hand repeatidly when I touch there. Which I thought was the problem. But according to her, it wasn't. So I dunno.
 

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Im sorry, but 400 sounds high to me also.. to get jack fixed ( he was under 50lbs) it costed 50$.. for over 50lbs it cost 75, blood work is 40, to have an IV drip while under to keep him some what hydrated is 60.. i know its differnet vets but still that does seem a little high. i would check other vets, Also i would also do like LD said, get a second opinon but dont let em know what the other vet says and get there opinon on what it could be.
 

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DobiLove said:
Im sorry, but 400 sounds high to me also.. to get jack fixed ( he was under 50lbs) it costed 50$.. for over 50lbs it cost 75, blood work is 40, to have an IV drip while under to keep him some what hydrated is 60.. i know its differnet vets but still that does seem a little high. i would check other vets, Also i would also do like LD said, get a second opinon but dont let em know what the other vet says and get there opinon on what it could be.
One thing that can add to the expense of any surgery is the anesthetic used..the newer (and much safer) gases can be quite expensive.

I'd say the average price to neuter a 70-80 lb. doberman around here using one of these newer anesthetics is around $150-175. I paid around $400 to neuter the male I have now, but he had an undescended testicle, which requires a far more invasive procedure.
 

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These are also Canadian prices.

Let me tell you what the cost broken down is...

Castration Canine Large $161.89
Pre-Anaesthetic Panel $57.25
intraoperative Fluids $54.90
Vonwilebrands $77.50

Total $351.54
(Price doesn't include the GST)

The Vonwilebrands is obviously optional (as is the other two). But I don't even think it's needed because Bruno has bled before and it stopped fine. But then I get to thinking, if I don't do the optional things. Will he be okay? I hate that feeling.


She also has me paying MORE for his booster. Because they forgot to call me and inform me that he needed his shot (I thought I was going for a follow up from the skin test, until I cancelled last week and made it for today--they said nothing on the phone about what I'm about to say) and that it was to be given 8 weeks after his first one. Well apparently today marked the 8 week and she said that it wouldn't be effective. And she'd recommend that I wait. And go back in 4 weeks (which means I have to pay again for the shot and a visit) so he can get his booster. I just thought that was odd. Because no one even said anything to me about it. Plus she came in the room all miserable and basically making me feel like I didn't know crap and I should have known this. Then trying to tell me I was wrong that they didn't tell me about it @@ I mean, I think I'd remember that. I told her OBVIOUSLY I'd wait and make another appointment, even if I have to pay MORE again. Because it's important to me that Bruno is fully covered.

I was really pleased with the vet last time. But I'm not so sure right now. I'm going to try another towns vet. See if I can get someone better. Or to my liking anyway.
 

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Murreydobe said:
I paid around $400 to neuter the male I have now, but he had an undescended testicle, which requires a far more invasive procedure.
Same here Murreydobe.
Luv_my_bruno if you don't seem to like the new vet and don't feel comfortable around her then don't use her anymore, make appt's with someone else and request the ones you liked. Finding a good vet that you feel comfortable with is very important.
 

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Yeah. I'm going to do that. I'm also going to call around from here to the Toronto area and see if I can find a Vet that is cheaper to do this surgery. I just find it so steep. I can't afford it without question.

I looked into that site Tracy, and I don't know if it's for Canadians as well?? If it is, it's worth a shot. I'm so thankful that there are even organizations that are out there to help with things like this. Thanks agian for posting it. :)
 

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Its about £90 here which is about $150.
 

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I just called around today for quotes. I happened to get a nice lady call me back. She said for their specialist to do this surgery, it would be between 1200-1400$ Which sounds alot more resonable to me.

She also said Bruno sounds a little to young to have to have this surgery. She mentioned it could be something else, I think what maryanddobes mentioned. So what I might do, is bring him in there for a check. They sound like they might be more Doberman friendly also.

I also noticed that Bruno is licking his lower foot more. Above where the padding is. Right at, what I guess would be his "ankle". So I'm even wondering if the injury is up by his knee or actually on his foot??

I'm really stressed out right now. So I"m rambling. I'm sorry lol. I'm just not getting the best of news today with anything :/
 

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Luv_my_Bruno said:
I looked into that site Tracy, and I don't know if it's for Canadians as well??
Special Needs Dobermans does help Canadian Dobermans. I referred a young woman in Ontario to them whose Doberman puppy was suffering from glaucoma, and she couldn't afford the surgery / treatment, and she was helped.
 
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