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So we've sent our 6 month old Radar to a 21 day live-in boot camp with a trainer. We chose this trainer - despite him being 3 hrs away because his personal dogs are dobermans. I know that many people think that all training should be between the owner and the dog but we are really glad we made this decision. Radar is basically a good boy. However, he had some problematic behaviors like jumping, "bullying" the children, and his persistant rough play with our other dog. The rough play was becoming a problem as he goes to a doggie daycare while we are at work and two weeks in a row ended up with bite wounds - the last time a day before going to training he needed his cheek stitched. As much as I wanted to think it was the daycare's fault for not supervising better I knew Radar was likely pushing other dogs to the breaking point. I knew I made the right decision after dropping him off at the trainer's house. Despite his socialization at the daycare, he had become more fearful of new people coming to our house and was fearful of entering the trainers house. The trainer right away noticed his insecurity and has been working on confidence which is crucial for a young dobie as lack of confidence leads to negative behaviors. We did work on training and went to puppy classes but we are not professionals and I highly recommmend the investment in a professional trainer at a young age to make sure your dobie is a good ambassador for the breed.
 

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I would seriously reconsider sending your dog away for training. There are too many horror stories of final results and how the dog acts when it returns home.

This is your dog, and therefore you should take responsibility and time to be involved in your the training, even if it requires you giving a few nights a week up to drive to classes, or pay a little extra to have a trainer come to your home and assist you and your puppy.

Dogs are not like children that you send away to boarding school when they misbehave. You need to put in the time with your dog to create a beautiful well mannered Doberman.

Good luck.
 

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I hope your puppy has a good experience and does well, learning what he needs to know to be a happy well adjusted boy. I dont believe in sending a pup away as you are the one who needs to learn how to train. There is nothing wrong with asking for help, but you need to learn also. Hope the trainer helps you. That should be a part of what you are paying for. My half brother had to shoot and kill his young great dane when it was trying to burst thru a sliding glass door to get to him after returning home from one of these training places. Very sad story.
 

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I hope your puppy has a good experience and does well, learning what he needs to know to be a happy well adjusted boy. I dont believe in sending a pup away as you are the one who needs to learn how to train. There is nothing wrong with asking for help, but you need to learn also. Hope the trainer helps you. That should be a part of what you are paying for. My half brother had to shoot and kill his young great dane when it was trying to burst thru a sliding glass door to get to him after returning home from one of these training places. Very sad story.
That's enough for me to never send any dog away for training.
 

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We were considering sending Kaiser away for training, but after talking to our trainer, he said he prefers to do one-on-one and rarely boards dogs to train. He only does when it's a serious problem dog (i.e. extremely and dangerously aggressive), and in those cases, he is usually solicited by a shelter rather than an owner.

We had magnificent results with our training. I would recommend trying to do one-on-one vs. a "boot camp." But that's just my experience. Best of luck.
 

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Owning a dog is being a "dog trainer". If you dont want to do that, you dont need a dog. A doberman really isnt a "pet". Besides, it will mind the new trainer, what makes you think it will mind you when it gets back? You need to know what you are doing and be a fair but firm Pack_Leader! Teaching a doberman is very easy, focus on what you are doing.
 

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The only time I might consider sending a dog away for training is if they had serious issues I could not handle. I still would probably opt to work with a trainer one on one instead of sending away to boot camp.

For me, one of the joys of dog ownership is working together as a team by attending group training classes. We learn together, share in our successes and develop a stronger bond. Training classes have allowed me to connect with other owners for doggie play dates as well.

Again, just my opinion on the subject :)
 

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Jumping is not a problematic behavior and there are many ways to stop it. I am assuming your boxer is a male also and that could be a problem with a male dobe. Doggie daycare I am not going to touch because for me, that could almost rank close to a dog park and questionable dogs with their own bad behavior.
Dumping your problem child off at daycare or trusted in a strangers hands, sends a clear message to the dog, that he is not wanted. Sometimes you have to sacrifice things in life for those you love, even it means going with hardly any sleep, physically tired tending constantly to a pup, supervising in children's presence, etc...
Recently due to a grueling work schedule I survived on combat naps for over a month, so my five month old Nubis could remain on a set schedule/pattern. if i had swayed from what he has learned , I am sure that would have caused me problems.

All the best to your puppy, but don't be surprised if he returns worst than he left because either that trainer will bond with him or beat it into him.
Training a dog is not rocket science, if something doesn't work, you try different methods till it works and resources like DT and the internet bring a vast wealth of experience onboard.
 

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Jumping is not a problematic behavior and there are many ways to stop it. I am assuming your boxer is a male also and that could be a problem with a male dobe. Doggie daycare I am not going to touch because for me, that could almost rank close to a dog park and questionable dogs with their own bad behavior.
Dumping your problem child off at daycare or trusted in a strangers hands, sends a clear message to the dog, that he is not wanted. Sometimes you have to sacrifice things in life for those you love, even it means going with hardly any sleep, physically tired tending constantly to a pup, supervising in children's presence, etc...
Recently due to a grueling work schedule I survived on combat naps for over a month, so my five month old Nubis could remain on a set schedule/pattern. if i had swayed from what he has learned , I am sure that would have caused me problems.

All the best to your puppy, but don't be surprised if he returns worst than he left because either that trainer will bond with him or beat it into him.
Training a dog is not rocket science, if something doesn't work, you try different methods till it works and resources like DT and the internet bring a vast wealth of experience onboard.
I agree the behaviors you described are normal behaviors. I would hope new people reading this would not take this advise. It is better as stated in other posts to make the time, sacrifices, or whatever needs to be done to work with your own pup/dog. I worked for over a yr with Kyrah and her reactivity towards people. I am no professional trainer and after trial and error she is doing GREAT! (yes, even after my post in the training section. We went to petsmart today and she went up to 3 people to be petted!! woohoo!! Well, at first she may have just wanted to see if they had treats. But I'll take it!)
 

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I visit with my Trainer friend every single day to take Toby out with her dogs for a walk. Despite the familiarity Toby listens to me and me alone when we are both training and out and about. Why? Because she is not his human whereas I am, now this to my mind is one good reason (at least as far as I am concerned regarding Toby) why sending ones dog to a Boot Camp is not a good idea. Your dog could well end up thinking of the trainer as his human and you as being mere onlookers.
I do hope it works out well for you however and hope you will keep us informed of his progress.
 

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Half of what the dog knows is.... From what he has learned... and the other half is, how he is being taught and who is teaching him. Im sorry, I just don't believe in sending a dog away for training....Unless, like previously said there was a SERIOUS problem... and even then it would take a lot for me to send her away as I would want to be involved and know how to work through the issue..

I believe that training is mostly for humans, and your dog actually "getting" what you are trying to teach is the least of the battle. MY hardship in training was developing MY leadership skills, learning how to handle a large dog, and how to teach and interact with my dog specifically. If my dog had been sent away, although I would know the "Commands" she learned, I still would have lost that time working WITH her and developing in training together.

I think the huge issue also with sending away is that dogs get accustomed to being handle by one or two people who usually are their "alphas" whom they look up to, respect, and want to please. Your dog could form a really good bond with this trainer potentially, then come back home to you and think "who are you to tell me to do that".

I guess sending dogs away does work for some people in some situations.... So I am not saying it will never work. I just have my beliefs that you should learn on your own how to train your dog, and spend the time bonding with him. If you keep up with training, and spend that little bit of time every day practicing and every week taking him out you'd be surprised how much more attached he would get to you.
 

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I visit with my Trainer friend every single day to take Toby out with her dogs for a walk. Despite the familiarity Toby listens to me and me alone when we are both training and out and about. Why? Because she is not his human whereas I am, now this to my mind is one good reason (at least as far as I am concerned regarding Toby) why sending ones dog to a Boot Camp is not a good idea. Your dog could well end up thinking of the trainer as his human and you as being mere onlookers.
I do hope it works out well for you however and hope you will keep us informed of his progress.
Hmm...I want my dogs to listen to anybody who gives them a command. I've never seen any issues with other people giving my dogs commands. now I haven't sent my dog away either, but other peopel show my dog, work, my dog, etc. As puppies it's also part of their socialization process. They always go for visits with other people and they dang well better listen!
 

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I'm no expert whatsoever in training dogs but i did have my first obedience class this week with my two 9 month old dobermans. My husband couldn't make it to the class because of work so i brought my friend to take one of my dogs for me that way i could have both of them there. The problem i saw was whichever dog i had did amazing but whatever dog my friend had, had a hard time listening to my friend. I traded pups half way through thinking maybe my male was being difficult but nope he did amazing with me and the the female was giving my friend a hard time. Its always been me and my husband training them and with them at home so they have a hard time following command after command from other people. Me and my husband have been working with them and the things i learned at class at home since the class and they do awesome when its me and the husband. For me i couldn't send my dogs off for training because it wouldn't work they need me and the husband (the alpha's of the house) to be the ones in control of them. I hope everything works out for you and your puppy though.
 

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Hmm...I want my dogs to listen to anybody who gives them a command. I've never seen any issues with other people giving my dogs commands. now I haven't sent my dog away either, but other peopel show my dog, work, my dog, etc. As puppies it's also part of their socialization process. They always go for visits with other people and they dang well better listen!
Toby listens, to me, my husband and my son, but to anyone else, that is a different story. Fact is so far and I hope it will stay that way he always looks to me to give him the nod, if I don't nod he doesnt do whatever it is he is being told to do. To my mind whilst it might seem annoying to some it is a good thing. Everyday in Spain hundreds of dogs go missing, taken from their homes, taken whilst they are out on walks and never seen again. There is a theory that they are being stolen, shipped off to Eastern Europe and used as either breeding stock or (and this sickens me to even think about it) as bait dogs for Dog fights. If by not listening to others it means Toby isn't taken, (please lord dont let that happen) then I am more than happy for it to continue.
By the way, I do not work or show Toby and whilst I have tried to socialise him fact is, here in Spain it is nigh on impossible when I have to take him out muzzled to the eyeballs, on a short leash. People take one look at him and run a mile, even though he is a sweet heart fact is we have to comply with the law for fear of him being shot in the street if we dont.
 

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So we've sent our 6 month old Radar to a 21 day live-in boot camp with a trainer. We chose this trainer - despite him being 3 hrs away because his personal dogs are dobermans. I know that many people think that all training should be between the owner and the dog but we are really glad we made this decision. Radar is basically a good boy. However, he had some problematic behaviors like jumping, "bullying" the children, and his persistant rough play with our other dog. The rough play was becoming a problem as he goes to a doggie daycare while we are at work and two weeks in a row ended up with bite wounds - the last time a day before going to training he needed his cheek stitched. As much as I wanted to think it was the daycare's fault for not supervising better I knew Radar was likely pushing other dogs to the breaking point. I knew I made the right decision after dropping him off at the trainer's house. Despite his socialization at the daycare, he had become more fearful of new people coming to our house and was fearful of entering the trainers house. The trainer right away noticed his insecurity and has been working on confidence which is crucial for a young dobie as lack of confidence leads to negative behaviors. We did work on training and went to puppy classes but we are not professionals and I highly recommmend the investment in a professional trainer at a young age to make sure your dobie is a good ambassador for the breed.
In my opinion, "puppy class" is a false sense of training...it is a place where dogs learn to mostly smell butts and stuff, at best.

Since you have the disposible income to use a boarding trainer, private lessons for the entire family, would have benn a far superior approach.

This dog, your next dog, the one after that will likely all show the "Radar behavior" as you have never invested the time in learning and teaching your own dog.
If you invest your own time and energy, with professional help now...this dobe and future ones, will have a huge head start, in life.
35 years ago:
I invested my summer months on excellent & skillful group training lessons and much daily practice...now my new pups are free of issues (as they mature), because I learned much, with my first dobe.

I tend to think, your mind is made up though...Good luck, is all I can say.
 

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Toby listens, to me, my husband and my son, but to anyone else, that is a different story. Fact is so far and I hope it will stay that way he always looks to me to give him the nod, if I don't nod he doesnt do whatever it is he is being told to do. To my mind whilst it might seem annoying to some it is a good thing. Everyday in Spain hundreds of dogs go missing, taken from their homes, taken whilst they are out on walks and never seen again. There is a theory that they are being stolen, shipped off to Eastern Europe and used as either breeding stock or (and this sickens me to even think about it) as bait dogs for Dog fights. If by not listening to others it means Toby isn't taken, (please lord dont let that happen) then I am more than happy for it to continue.
By the way, I do not work or show Toby and whilst I have tried to socialise him fact is, here in Spain it is nigh on impossible when I have to take him out muzzled to the eyeballs, on a short leash. People take one look at him and run a mile, even though he is a sweet heart fact is we have to comply with the law for fear of him being shot in the street if we dont.
I agree. I dont want my dogs listening to just anyone. They all listen to their family and I do not encourage them to listen to anyone else. Tippy is very friendly and will go up to anyone. Cujo, well he is just Cujo in his own little world. Kyrah does the same as Toby in many situations. She looks to me for an ok. Tho Adara I do understand your situation is different.
 

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My problem would be, I don't trust what some trainers would do to my dog to make it obey. When you have been around certain competitive obedience trainers, you see how some of them treat dogs. Its not pretty.
 
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