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· Mom of the Herd
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:boldblue: I have a 4month old Dob that we cannot get to quit biting our hands, or chewing on the other dogs. ( other dogs are all small) She pulls their tails to play. Whats the best way to correct without yelling "NO" all the time. She gets these spurts of high energy, when she's sweet, she's very sweet, when she's in her high mood, watch out.................
 

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When I get a pup, I first train it to "fetch" a tennis ball / once the ball is picked up, I teach the "come" command / when the dog comes back, I sometimes play "tug" with the ball and rotate my bare hand/fingers into the dogs mouth...all in great fun.

If the puppy does not control its jaw muscles, in a "soft bite" manner.
- it will get a very stern & loud "ITCH" of disapproval
Seeing progress, play games as above...will continue...and in a few days, "muzzle/soft bite" training is under control.

10 years later, I can still rotate my fingers or hand into my dobes mouth...without an once of fear.
- when my dog was young, I have her play "fight night" (with Dad) for 3-4 minutes daily when I go to bed and when we both wake up in the morning (on the masters bed)

I have always said, "if you take control of the dogs muzzle strength / you literally have control and respect, of the dog"....so it is an exercise I practice frequently (in the first 1-2 years), without fail.
- so I turn uncontrolled biting into very controlled mouthing / and get a ton of free "eye focus" training in
- using fun & exciting play games...sitting on the living room floor
All win-win "bonding".

Nubis'sDad - thanks for your linked writeup.
 

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10 years later, I can still rotate my fingers or hand into my dobes mouth...without an once of fear.
- when my dog was young, I have her play "fight night" (with Dad) for 3-4 minutes daily when I go to bed and when we both wake up in the morning (on the masters bed)
This is great stuff, I do something similar. I will never end the day on a negative note bcuz dogs remember, even if I have to stay up later.
I just love my Nubis's morning love grunts when I first take him out of his crate in the morning.
 

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Nubis's morning love grunts - too cute.

Little Trevor is my sons YorkiePoo...and we babysit him a few times/month.
Our Amy would sooner have a belly rub in bed now, she will turn 11 y/o in Dec.

I also taught this little dog, my bed game of "fight night".
In the morning he runs over the tops of my legs and take a position right next to my hand.
I give him the "fight night" command and wave my fingers too his mouth.
Then the "soft bite" game is on (on the bed) and I wind-him-up real good, every morning he sleeps over.
Something he really enjoys and it is so funny...No surprise, he listens extremely well to me off-leash.


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OP, our guy just turned 3 mos. and he is a BITER too. When classic redirection didn't work, and Dr Ian Dunbar's methods were only so-so, our breeder told us to get real tough with him. That's working, though we've only been at it less that a week with her methods.
 

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Sometimes you have to be real careful, with getting real tough with them.
My step father was real tough with me and when I got bigger, I faced him.
 
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Sometimes you have to be real careful, with getting real tough with them.
My step father was real tough with me and when I got bigger, I faced him.
I understand. We're not hurting him. But when a pup is regularly drawing blood with his bites to the whole family, won't respond to "ouch", won't be re-directed to chew toys, won't respond to play time is over (time out), and the experienced breeder who knows these lines told us we need to nip this now before he gets his big teeth, well, he's going get grabbed by the scruff of his neck. That is having impact. We would've liked to think that maybe he'd grow out of this, but we can't take that chance. He is a high-spirited smart pup, but he has to learn to use his mouth correctly.
 

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Excellent it has to stop now.
Give my method that I read about, that is getting me great results with my Nubis at 10 weeks. Its actually awesome cuz when he is ramboucous, I use the Settle Down command and his slowly grasping it but when he bites now or nips, immediately he is gently taken down with the settle down command and given a harsh no biting or NO. Like anything it has to be consistent bcuz now in a gentler way you are telling him to stop the misbehaving attitude.
This is excellent lesson for us masters bcuz we have learn to settle the rage within us and show him, our calmness. Kiss and makeup continue play/activity.
As long as initially Alpha, has clearly bonded and shown the dog his role as mother role, there is no confusion with the dog.
I take biting /nipping very serious cuz if he bites one person he will most likely be put down and my heart cannot take that because I failed as the master and now lost my loved dog.
Its like my mother when I was a kid, I ran across the street without looking. She calmly got a hold of me and shook the living crap out of me and put the fear of god in me, and advised me, she would kill me before a car did. Obviously she cried , held me and told me how much she loved me and was watching out for my well being.
Do I look both ways now, you bet I do, and it has save my life\harm many times thanks to my mothers Love.
 
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all i can say is welcome to the world of the Dobie, we are just visitors.....
Agreed, I started a new job right after I got Caesar and I promised them all I wasn't a "cutter" after they saw my hands lol

That being said, they are just babies at this age and consider it playing. With consistent gentle correction this stops. Also, I always had a lot of toys around for him......they are teething
 
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