Kimbertal lines and dogs 100# plus...I'm a newbie, and even I can see that' social media' isn't the problem here. Thank dog for educated people of integrity willing to help us newbies along!
I cannot agree with you. Different households have different needs, and what works best for you won't necessarily work best for me.Even if this breeder have a good reputation it's better to adopt from the shelter or rescue than buying from any breeders out there.
I volunteer for rescue (getting ready to take in 11 puppies<---CRAZY LADY) and I don't agree with you either. If your option is to purchase from a byb, greeder or puppy mill or choose a rescue, 100% of the time rescue. If your option is to purchase from a rep. breeder or a rescue, then do what you feel is best but chances are much greater for a nicer dog who will have less health issues and live longer with the rep. breeder.Never heard that breeder before! Even if this breeder have a good reputation it's better to adopt from the shelter or rescue than buying from any breeders out there.
While I can appreciate the sentiment, I cannot appreciate the reality. I'm a rescue person, through and through. I've never had a dog that wasn't a rescue of some type, be they picked up as a stray while out and about (like Lucky, Ilka, and Leo) or a private rehome from someone who wasn't taking very good care of them (like Gin and Lily). That said, one of these days, I want to own a well bred dog from a good breeder.Never heard that breeder before! Even if this breeder have a good reputation it's better to adopt from the shelter or rescue than buying from any breeders out there.
I couldn't disagree. Maybe it's just me having bad experiences to breeders. I've lost my trust to them a long time ago, but I would not deny that there are still reputable breeders. It's just that, I can't just sit and watch when a dog needs me. I have been fostering shelter dogs for years and it's the best feeling I know.While I can appreciate the sentiment, I cannot appreciate the reality. I'm a rescue person, through and through. I've never had a dog that wasn't a rescue of some type, be they picked up as a stray while out and about (like Lucky, Ilka, and Leo) or a private rehome from someone who wasn't taking very good care of them (like Gin and Lily). That said, one of these days, I want to own a well bred dog from a good breeder.
Think about this: It is extremely rare to see a dog from a good breeder wind up in a shelter or rescue. Does it happen? Sometimes, yes, despite the breeders best efforts. However, the vast majority of dogs in shelters and rescues are the result of poor breeders (puppymills, greedrs, BYB, careless owners who let their bitch have an "oops litter", and others like them) who don't screen buyers properly, and owners who don't think twice about dumping an animal they no longer want.
This thread http://www.dobermantalk.com/breeding-breeders/218953-charts-different-kinds-breeders-flow-chart-should-i-breed-my-dog.html has a handy breeder comparison chart.
Sorry, just wanted to comment because I found your dog's pedigrees.
Maxim Di altobello
Baron Nike Renewal
Fedor Del Nazi
All three of these dogs are KNOWN to have DCM in their lines. I would seriously think about not breeding the dog who is doubled up with 2 of these dogs in their pedigree (there could be more than one).
Change? This place is breeding specifically for DCM dogs. Look up and down RIO's lines & find me the dogs that made to 7. The dogs they have should not be in a breeding program. He's breeding ultra high risk DCM to more DCM. It's disgusting.Let me throw you a bone of advice.I just found this thread as i am not on social media for this reason. If you are going to spout your "options" all over the World Wide Web make sure you have the facts. Especially those that are touting themselves to be know it alls. We are all entitled to our opinions but opinions are exactly that, not facts. Everything that I have read about Kevlar Dobermans is completely false. But what do I know, they are just my dogs....all of you must know my dogs and business better then I. And to the person asking for advice, social media is the last place to be looking. And if said person has questions about us or our dogs its best to talk directly to us as we will tell you the facts; since we know our dogs best-pedigrees, health testing, temperaments, Etc. -best wishes to you all.
1) It's not the AKC breed standard, it's the DPCA breed standard, since you own the breed you should know that.
2) DCM is the number one killer of Dobermans, if you want to seem credible you need to be holter monitoring proBNP, echoing, and testing troponin.
3) Prove your dog's worthiness by competing in SOME venue, OB, working sport...
4) At the very LEAST post your dogs on dobermanreview.com
5) Stop advertising puppies like they're cars, don't breed until you have a waiting list so your puppies are all spoken for.
6)That looks like a Foxfire dog next to your logo, I'd take that down because that is a copyrighted image and they could shut your entire website down. And I'm getting ready to message Michelle right now so take it down quickly.
7) Those aren't your ribbons and that's false advertising, COME ON! One thing I hate are liars! If you're not going to compete then AT LEAST do all of the proper health testing! If you're going to make a buck off your cash cows at least try to sell the healthiest ones you can! This requires yearly testing of the heart (really it's twice a year)and thyroid, and knowing the dogs in your lines and what you're breeding too.
Best of luck, but if you want some respect on this site and in the Doberman community I'd seriously think about these 7 bones and change your current program.