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What a day. We were doing so well, I actually (and foolishly) got my hopes up that the seizures had magically gone away. Soter's last seizure was December 31, 3 months to the day.

My husband was home sick and he called me at work at 4:00, Soter was seizing.
My poor husband was totally frantic, he knew he had to give Soter the Valium but didn't want to leave poor Soter, they were downstairs but the medicine was upstairs. I convinced him to run up and get the medicine, explained how to do it and then he had to hang up.

He actually did it, I'm so proud of him, he actually administered the rectal Valium. Unfortunatly, it was a really bad seizure, my husband gave him two vials but it wasn't enough to stop the seizure although he said it did seem to lessen the thrashing a bit.

I've spoken to the vet and she says to increase the dose to three vials and to give him a fourth if necessary. We're still not medicating as the seizure frequency is quite far apart. I am picking up more Valium and syringes tomorrow so I can keep one set downstairs too.

Since our specialist appointment, I have completely elimininated all chemicals in the house. I clean solely with baking soda and vinigar now and make my own laundry soap and dish soap. The only thing I still use is dishwasher detergent but I've switched to Seventh Generation brand as it seems to be the safest I could find on the market. I wonder if this has anything to do with the decreased frequency of the seizures?

We're supposed to start our Fenzi tracking class tomorrow. I was so excited but now I'm wondering if we should. Our vet says yes but I just worry so much about him. I just want to put him in a bubble and keep him safe. Anyone got a bubble? :(
 

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I wish there was such a thing as a bubble.
I am terribly sorry to hear that he had another seizure, I actually thought that it was all over and never to happen again.
You can go to the class and he it will be good for him because he will enjoy himself, just don't have him over exercised.
The lack of chemicals in the house could help, but not entirely sure if it would be the only cause for its reduction, but carry it on anyway. When I had my dog that seizured, some vets said that some lighting could cause them, over excitment, being too hot...all sorts of things but they were never 100% sure.

I do pray that it was the last one, I feel so sorry for Soter, and for you, it is a terrible situation to be in.
 

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I'd loan you my bubble, but I'm keeping Lexi in it. Lexi is +vWD, I carry a pack with medical supplies. I know I'm overly cautious. I think going for 3 months is wonderful and you've gotten rid of the chemicals. You can only do everything you are doing and hope he doesn't have more. The best to Soter, you and hubby.
 

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I'm so sorry. I am glad they are less frequent, but I can't imagine how hard this is.
 
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We had a pit with seizure issues similar to yours. All you can do is keep the stress low and enjoy life as you normally would. Flashing or strobe type lighting is not a good idea. GREAT that you eliminated chemicals. Keep the valium with you if you go on outings just in case.

It's the kind of thing where the parents worry about it much more than it affects the dog.

I hope the seizures continue to be spaced out and eventually fade. If you get to the point the vet recommends daily medication, it's not so bad. Our dog did very well with daily meds. A friend of mine was luckier in that their dog's seizures faded away altogether.

Good luck and great work on staying so calm and collected during the seizure!
 

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Vibes for you guys, hang in there.

I'm so happy for you that the chemical reduction seems to be working in his favor.

Let him live his life, though, as much as you can.

I know it's hard, believe me I do. But, someday--hopefully very, very far in the future, when you look back on his whole life, you will be glad you let him be himself.

Once again, kudos to you and your husband, for your calm action and for helping him when he is in crisis.
 

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My male Shih Tzu x Maltese has been having seizures for the past three years. They are very spaced out, like one every three or four months or longer. The Vet does not want to put him on any medication because they are so spread out. He did gave me the rectal valium but I have not had to use it yet. When he gave it to me it was when he had three seizures in a row but since then he has only had one seizure and it was his usual one, he just goes stiff and falls over and lies there. A few minutes later he gets up and is back to normal.

I do compete in Agility with him and he has never had one at an Agility trial since his very first seizure when he was four years old. I had considered stopping with the Agility but he loves doing it and it does not seem to bring a seizure on.
 

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Sorry to hear Soter had another seizure, but it's good that the frequency is so low. Maybe wash his dishes with something else. Have you ever used Dr. Bronner's? It's one of those all purpose cleaners but very environmentally friendly and smells great.
Actually Dr. Bronner's Castile soap is what we use for dish soap now. I'll take your advice and start washing their dishes by hand with the Castile soap instead of putting them in the dishwasher though. I'll try anything. thanks :)

:( So wishing you guys could figure this out already!

You could wash the pet dishes in a vinegar solution... this is a nifty little blog, done by a lady whose dog is allergic to like everything, about what she cleans with. Dog Friendly Dish Washing | Kol's NotesKol's Notes
I wish we could figure this out too. For a control freak like me, this is sheer torture. I have a compulsion to make things better and it kills me that I can't fix this for him :(. I'll definitely check out that blog. Thanks!

My male Shih Tzu x Maltese has been having seizures for the past three years. They are very spaced out, like one every three or four months or longer. The Vet does not want to put him on any medication because they are so spread out. He did gave me the rectal valium but I have not had to use it yet. When he gave it to me it was when he had three seizures in a row but since then he has only had one seizure and it was his usual one, he just goes stiff and falls over and lies there. A few minutes later he gets up and is back to normal.

I do compete in Agility with him and he has never had one at an Agility trial since his very first seizure when he was four years old. I had considered stopping with the Agility but he loves doing it and it does not seem to bring a seizure on.
I'm so glad to hear that your guy is doing ok and still competes in Agility. Soter was the same, three seizures in a very short space of time and now a three month time span in between. His seizures are frighteningly long though, like 10 minutes of seizing. He took a much longer time than usual to recover from this one and I freaked out a bit. I ended up calling our vet at home and she explained to me that the Valium was what was making him so larthgic for so long. He's back to normal again today thank God. I'll tell you, yesterday all I could think of was (to quote RFR) "hurray for Rectal Valium!"


Thank you everyone for all your support. Thanks to all of you, we went ahead with the course. Our first lecture was today and hopefully we can start tracking this week. We got the extra Valium doses so I now have a set upstairs, downstairs and a set to keep in our tracking kit just in case. You guys help keep me sane :thanx:
 

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I'm so sorry. I think I would continue with the tracking class though. I might not say put him on an aframe in agility but for now it might be good for both of you.

At what point do they suggest medicating? Hope you don't need it - just curious for my own learning experience.
 
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sorry your boy is still being troubled by seizures.

Hugz to the kids.


maybe do some research on these three, and their thoughts on seizures.

Wendell O. Belfield, D.V.M. - vitamin therapy

Martin Schulman VMD - mineral deficiencies

herbalist John Christopher - B&B Tincture
 

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I'm so sorry. I think I would continue with the tracking class though. I might not say put him on an aframe in agility but for now it might be good for both of you.

At what point do they suggest medicating? Hope you don't need it - just curious for my own learning experience.
Thanks Adara. We will be going ahead with the tracking, if it ever stops raining! Going on 5 straight days :screama:

To answer your question, there are two very different opinions on medication right now. The neurologist wanted to medicate him right away. His reason is the length of the seizures. He said that if the seizures were normal length (approx. 3 min.) then he wouldn't suggest medication unless he was having at least three per month but because he seizes for up to 10 min. the neurologist feels it would be better to stop them altogether.

Our vets and our breeder do not want to medicate him right now. They are concerned about long term effects on his organs. Also, apparently once he is on the medication, he can never stop.

For now, we've all agreed to hold off. If the seizures get worse and/or more frequent then we'll revisit the medication issue. This is one of things I hate most about all of this, there are no cut and dried answers. I pray every day that we're doing the right things for him.

sorry your boy is still being troubled by seizures.

Hugz to the kids.


maybe do some research on these three, and their thoughts on seizures.

Wendell O. Belfield, D.V.M. - vitamin therapy

Martin Schulman VMD - mineral deficiencies

herbalist John Christopher - B&B Tincture
Thanks Darkevs, I will definitely check them out :)
 

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Thanks for the info. Seizures run in our Vizsla breed and they scare me so much.

Have fun tracking! Try anyway. :)
 
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