Congratulations on your dedication to get her into obedience, that’s quite a drive!!
Head halter was tried on my other dog - when a local one-on-one trainer was available. He’s a thicker build but yes it was terrible anyway.Well...here're a couple of tips that may be helpful.
First of all I'm really glad that the head halter fell apart and you couldn't use it. It's recommended that for dobermans and any other breeds with lovely long attractive necks if they get pulled up by the head halter it's possible for the thing to do some actual damage tweaking that neck. And one of the relatively common issues with Doberman's is injury to the neck causing damage to the neck vertebrae.
When using a prong--especially with a dog who has never been trained on one to keep the prong up where it's supposed to be--I use an a additional collar immediately adjacent to the prong--preferable a flat buckle collar--adjusted so that it doesn't slip down.
And when I am training a dog on a prong while I do use a 6 foot training leash--I watch the dog continuously and and don't ever let them actually start pulling the leash taut--in a pulling match with a Doberman--even a half grown puppy I would lose every time. So before they have a chance to pull the leash tight I give a very quick but firm leash correction which makes the prongs "pinch"--and that's what they get any time they start to pull or do anything that might make me drop the leash.
Eventually even my most blockheaded young males get the message about keeping that leash loose and checking in with me periodically to see what I actually might want them to do.
As far as how much exercise a Doberman actually needs--yes, they need exercise but I have known a number of people who were so determined to make sure they were giving the dog enough exercise they ended up having a dog who needed more and more exercise--made for a very athletic dog and a worn out handler. The is a happy medium in there. And as far as learning the proper way to fit and use a prong--I believe that there are several videos, available on line--I haven't had a chance to look them up again but I'll see if I can find them for you.
Don't give up--but do try to come to some sort of compromise with your girl so that you are not having to deal with only what she wants to do.
Thank you. This looks like it’s right at the bottom of the bump on the neck. ? She did circles well for a short while. I basically gave up having her keep her focus on me enough - just to get her some exercise that didn’t pull my arm off (the front clip harness - still terrible and will demolish me by next year). When I stop, she will stop and look at me, like your video. When she’s on a mission or picks up a pretty exciting scent, I disappear from her attention almost entirely. I can still get her to stop but it requires too much pull against her harness. Mainly this is what I don’t think it’s good for either of us long term. That’s the summary I suppose - I edit my typos too much - but don’t edit my amount of verbiage well. Glad for anyone who can follow my threads!Sissi, as you probably know from your previous training thread, like Anouk our 2 y/o Neo is a problem straight-line walker, wanting to walk very fast and pull if I don't match his pace. When I stop he stops, however when we continue he wants to walk fast again. Here is a short video clip showing gear I use for him on two daily walks. We were switching off to FC for long LLW training. Whenever I see upcoming dogs or new things, I put the lead back on prong. I found that just one prong link makes the difference on effectiveness of collar and keeps higher up on neck. He respects the prong collar but if it's something that really got his guff up, he'll pull against it so we'll divert, circle or reverse course. Neo also wears his prong collar to public parks as we must pass many people, dogs, scooters and bikes on the relatively narrow paved hiking/biking trails. After he meets dogs he knows or compatible dogs, with several past good encounters, I'll switch lead to harness for some close interaction. For his therapy dog evaluation we can only use flat or Martingale collar so I have been training him on the MGale this last month, which most large breed therapy dogs are fitted with. 2nd Video shows our daily pre-walk ritual from Nest cam where you can see Neo is good at crazy walk turns and reversals. He's perfect inside house but outside on driveway there's lots more distractions around!
Neo LLW Flat Collar Switch 5-11-23 (4K GoPro)
Neo FC Pre-Walk Ritual 5-7-23 (Nest HD)
This is what we’ll end up doing. The least interesting place to walk is also the most exciting. Roads and parking lots (blah) adjacent to trails (omg). We will also practice walking around the block. We need to be able to walk next winter without her pulling me over ice. I use my older dog as balance. Anouk - ha. But to still have her trail walks we will use her harness for I don’t know how long. She might be able to use prong practice on trails too.Since then I use a connection to flat collar. Also on walks (still training) I switch between prong and flat (or Martingale) depending on what were doing on that walk and situation.