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Forgive me for adding my comments on what is clearly a well discussed topic, imho, it appears to be one of mere cultural differences? THe US dobes are stunningly elegant, and appear more athletic , the 'Euro' dobes appear more solid in build, sometimes blurring the line between dobes and their stocker rottie cousins, however it is purely one of aesthetics and differences in taste.

Just my opinion, both types have their attractions but in essence the are still dobes.
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