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I have an albino doberman. She is the best dog that I have ever had. Loving and gentle. Does anyone else have one?
 

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Hello Mommybratt, I am glad to hear that your dog is so great. I dont have a Albino and I am not sure if anyone else on the forum does, as you are aware they are not the most popular color of Dobermans out there.

If you wouldnt mind maybe you could post some pictures of your dog in the gallery, would love to see her.

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I have an albino doberman. She is the best dog that I have ever had. Loving and gentle. Does anyone else have one?

Mommy I do to... i have a white doberman which is different that albino... and you can tell if your dobe is white or albino by having a genetic DNA test to see if he/she is albino or white... send me a pic... ill send you a pic of prince. he is great... just beware that there are those out there that think bad of them so dont take offense to them but enjoy your baby... email me with a pic... hugs your white baby... :dancing_b :dancing_b :cool2:
 

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White Doberman

Hi All
I am new also.
I have a Beautiful WHITE Doberman named Pearl,
I also Have A red Female Named Ruby which we are having Fun in Agility, ,
I also have one Blue Dobe Pup named Diamond and a Red Dobe Pup named Lucy.
Jody Franklin :)
 

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Agilk9 said:
Hi All
I am new also.
I have a Beautiful WHITE Doberman named Pearl,
I also Have A red Female Named Ruby which we are having Fun in Agility, ,
I also have one Blue Dobe Pup named Diamond and a Red Dobe Pup named Lucy.
Jody Franklin :)
Wow you have quite the Dobe family! You must be a saint. heheheh

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mommybratt said:
I have an albino doberman. She is the best dog that I have ever had. Loving and gentle. Does anyone else have one?
Hi
Is your dobe Albino or White? I have a pair of Whites. They have blue eyes. They are my heart and soul. Plus I have a pair of Black and Rust. Is your baby registered AKC? Sorry about all the questions.
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Have you looked for info on the albinos before? It is not just a dog with red eyes. Any white dobe is called an albino. http://www.dpca.org/albinoinfo1.html That is a good start.

They can be great dogs but they are very prone to helath problems. the one I knew died from cancer very young. There are many unscrupuloue(sp) breedres that are trying to push them as a rare color and it is sickening to anyone who truly loves the breed. Any dobe related to a white should be fixed asap. I have heard some wackos lately on other forums trying to convince others that there is a test(which there isn't) to say the white isn't an albino. The AKC will also never accept them as a color. I don't know where you got yours from but stay away from them in the future! Anyone that would propell a bad trait in a breed we all love is NOT a person to buy from.

Have you had any problems with yours yet? I've heard if you keep them out of the sun from a young age that it greatly reduces some of the cancer risk. It might also be good to find a vet who is knowledgeable about dobes. You may alos want to look into the highest quality food you can get for them. I think the vitamins they reccomend differ from those of the blue but a good vet will be able to help you with that.

here are some more links
http://www.geocities.com/~amazondoc/albinism/
http://www.dpca-breedered.com/albinohistory.htm
http://bakaridobes.westhost.com/publiceducation/PECAlbino.html
http://myweb.cableone.net/kegowland/ALBINO.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/~amazondoc/albinism/
 

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Joce is right about the whole albino thing with dobes, white is considered white.

I have to be clear, I don't think bad of whites, they can't help it that they were bred to be what they are. I'm thankful to people who take them in as rescues, as they are prone to many problems. However, white is a genetic "screw up" (pardon the term). A large percentage of these white have more problems, and it is all owed to (speaking honestsly) irresponsible breeders. It is utimetely a product of in-breeding just to make somthing that was considered to be rare and worth money. Many of these animals suffer daily with their skin and eye problems, it is so unfair that they must....they should never have existed. Many people who seek out and purchase them are only guilty of being uneducated about the facts.

I do apologize for and feelings I have hurt....I can't unfortunetely apologize for the fact of the matter. Once again, bless everyone who has opened their home to a rescue white, if it is in good health, I'm all the happier for you. Never shall I condone breeding or purchasing whites though.
 

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wow, there seems to be alot of white/albino dobes out there. I have never seen one in australia, perhaps because they are an imported breed, the studs brought over here are well researched. If one needed a home because it was dumped I would love it and take it in, however enocuraging breeding them does not seem right (particularly in sunny down under!!)
 

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The white dobes are considered albinos people. Please tell me your not pushing them as a correct color?

not true .... read harvard research... there is a difference... white is white... a dulited gene and alibino well has complete different gene... i wish i could typ the way the genes show up but it is difficult to do that... so ill attempt to do it the mathematical way

White is consider this way on a Genetic Test... D^d large D raised to the little d means dilution which causes white...

Albino genes come up C^c or large C raised to the little c which means Albino... :D had to make quite a few calls and get many websites to find that will see if i still have it saved then post it so you can see the quote.. :D
 

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However, white is a genetic "screw up" (pardon the term). A large percentage of these white have more problems, and it is all owed to (speaking honestsly) irresponsible breeders. .
She is exactly right... due to Irresponsible breeding which causes genetic and health mess ups... and so many people that sell white dobes just sell them... instead of doing the testing like they should before breeding.... well, a breeder that wants white dobes should always offer a genetic gaurantee if they are seriously considering breeding and having white dobes...

This is my opinion... not everyones
 

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She is exactly right... due to Irresponsible breeding which causes genetic and health mess ups... and so many people that sell white dobes just sell them... instead of doing the testing like they should before breeding.... well, a breeder that wants white dobes should always offer a genetic gaurantee if they are seriously considering breeding and having white dobes...
What I don't understand is if you agree that it is a genetic screw up then you must certainly acknowledge the health problems that are associated with said "genetic screw up" and therefore agree that they should not be bred reguardless of whatever testing because we already know that they carry a genetic screw up.
 

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Have you looked for info on the albinos before? It is not just a dog with red eyes. Any white dobe is called an albino. http://www.dpca.org/albinoinfo1.html That is a good start.

They can be great dogs but they are very prone to helath problems. the one I knew died from cancer very young. There are many unscrupuloue(sp) breedres that are trying to push them as a rare color and it is sickening to anyone who truly loves the breed. Any dobe related to a white should be fixed asap. I have heard some wackos lately on other forums trying to convince others that there is a test(which there isn't) to say the white isn't an albino. The AKC will also never accept them as a color. I don't know where you got yours from but stay away from them in the future! Anyone that would propell a bad trait in a breed we all love is NOT a person to buy from.

Have you had any problems with yours yet? I've heard if you keep them out of the sun from a young age that it greatly reduces some of the cancer risk. It might also be good to find a vet who is knowledgeable about dobes. You may alos want to look into the highest quality food you can get for them. I think the vitamins they reccomend differ from those of the blue but a good vet will be able to help you with that.

here are some more links
http://www.geocities.com/~amazondoc/albinism/
http://www.dpca-breedered.com/albinohistory.htm
http://bakaridobes.westhost.com/publiceducation/PECAlbino.html
http://myweb.cableone.net/kegowland/ALBINO.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/~amazondoc/albinism/
No that isnt true. to people with stereotypes against them they are.... My vet has never referred to my dobe as albino nor has anyone that has ever seen him... thank goodness ive had the testing done... see albinos have no pigmentation in the hair eyes and skin... my dobe who is WHITE... you can see where his markings should be in rust because the white is really white where as his actual color is creamy colored.... his genetics test came back a diluted gene not the albino gene... which is quite a misconception... when people pay the money you can tell the difference... it is expensive but it is possible to see ifyour white/albino is either white or albino instead of not knowing... plus my whites eyes are getting darker as he gets older...

Albinos have NO pigmentation... solid white... not dilutions....i actually have a webiste that explains the gene thing but i gotta find it and i dont know where it is today...

but there is misconception... some dobie owners know about it... but some dont nor do they care because all they see is all whites are bad tempered, ill willed, with health problems... but this isnt true... the only thing i have to worry about is a sunburn lol... 60+ SPF works HEHEHEHE... but still do some more studying on genes and how they work... and if you have a white and with the money go ahead get the test and see what happens... :cool2:
 

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What I don't understand is if you agree that it is a genetic screw up then you must certainly acknowledge the health problems that are associated with said "genetic screw up" and therefore agree that they should not be bred reguardless of whatever testing because we already know that they carry a genetic screw up.

im not agreeing with you. i am saying yes people see it as a gene screw up and No there arent always health problems thank goodness... and that isnt true about breeding... people have their prefrences... if you have albino definately NO BREEDING....Whites which are dilution of fawn who is dilution of red are fine healthy... the only thing we have to worry about is carcinoma... but other than that they are different... and they dont always carry that... believe me when i bought my white i got him with agenetic garauntee... that if anything was wrong with his genes at any time i could call my breeder and have some things taken care of...

No i have done my research and continue to do it because there alot of things that people misread or dont read because they think DPCA is actually hiring people to do the tests... No... DPCA does their own testing and they pick and choose... I had havard studies as well as my dobes studies to know the difference. but it isnt to upset you or anyone else because of your beliefs...

You have a right to your opinion but it doesnt mean you or I are correct or anyone can tell either of us that... I have scientific proof and that is the kind of person i am... that is what i require... most people rely on word of mouth... which is okay too :D... each person has their own tastes and preferences.... I actually do breed and will be breeding my white dobe with a blue female in approximately 18 months provide all the tests at that time come out proper...
 

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AKC does accept, ALLOW the WHITE dobermans. the White Doberman and my White Doberman is registered with AKC along with NKC, I have Family and Friends who show thier WHTE doberman in AKC rings , you can NOT show the White Doberman in the conformation Ring of AKC that is where the COLOR WHITE is not allowed but allowed in all other rings. Please do not say that AKC does not allow the white in the ring . along with me My mother has a white Doberman who is currently in AKC Agility and has received his first title in AKC agility, White Dobermans are a COLOR a color that is on my AKC PAPERS for that is what I have a WHITE DOBERMAN,, not an albino, no where on her papers is that word "Albino" please all of you that have a WHITE Doberman don't let anyone tell you have a Unregisterable color or let them tell you that AKC will not register them.. not a true statement.. Whites can be shown and are being shown. just not in Conformation ring. this is where the DPCA has said it is not anaccepted color allowed.. and it does say White not albino, so my girl along with all of the other Beautiful whites can't get in tha ring yet,, so Please show them in AKC Obedience and Rally and agiity and any ohter event that AKC has this is where they belong also. look at babies they are smart healthy and are a Doberman. they are a DOBERMAN! and no one can say other wise.. please check out this site on White Dobermans. I support all FIVE colors,, for that is what is out here, our Blacks and Reds, And Blues and Fawns and Whites, I hope in the future there will be more that do!
www.dpaa.org
Thanks Jody Franklin
Vice President of DPAA
NKC CH Franklin's Sparkling Ruby OA,NAJ. CGC
Franklins Sparkling Pearl
Franklins Sparkilng Diamond
Franklins Sparkling Amber
 

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joce said:
Have you looked for info on the albinos before? It is not just a dog with red eyes. Any white dobe is called an albino. http://www.dpca.org/albinoinfo1.html That is a good start.

They can be great dogs but they are very prone to helath problems. the one I knew died from cancer very young. There are many unscrupuloue(sp) breedres that are trying to push them as a rare color and it is sickening to anyone who truly loves the breed. Any dobe related to a white should be fixed asap. I have heard some wackos lately on other forums trying to convince others that there is a test(which there isn't) to say the white isn't an albino. The AKC will also never accept them as a color. I don't know where you got yours from but stay away from them in the future! Anyone that would propell a bad trait in a breed we all love is NOT a person to buy from.

Have you had any problems with yours yet? I've heard if you keep them out of the sun from a young age that it greatly reduces some of the cancer risk. It might also be good to find a vet who is knowledgeable about dobes. You may alos want to look into the highest quality food you can get for them. I think the vitamins they reccomend differ from those of the blue but a good vet will be able to help you with that.

here are some more links
http://www.geocities.com/~amazondoc/albinism/
http://www.dpca-breedered.com/albinohistory.htm
http://bakaridobes.westhost.com/publiceducation/PECAlbino.html
http://myweb.cableone.net/kegowland/ALBINO.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/~amazondoc/albinism/
whiteandblue is one of those "wackos" trying to convince that she has proof that there is a difference between albino and white. Perhaps she will finally post her findings that were suppose to be faxed to her from 3 universitys.
 
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