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Hopefully someone may have come across this behaviour and might be able to help me or if there any dog trainers or behaviour specialist, would much appreciate some suggestions to try.
My 7.5yo desexed female is into her second week at home with me. She is an adopted purebred and absolutely lovely natured dog. I have had 2 dobes before and know they are velcro dogs , but Angie is really over the top. I dont mind at all her following me around and that isnt the problem. Sometimes it is when I fall over her lol. The problem is that she is seeking to be petted continuously and is really in your face and demanding. I feel like my personal space is being invaded a lot. She receives the normal amount of affection as you do, but she just goes on with it. If you are sitting on the lounge she will come up and force her head onto you lap and lick lick lick. I feel like I am having a second bath. She will stare at you and breath right into your face. If you say "enough" and push her away, she will push back even harder back. My husband has got to the point where he cant use his lap top on the coffee table because she is in his face.He puts her out of the room which is a shame as we want her around us like we have always had our other dogs.She has a few little idiosyncracies.She wont sleep in her bed with you if the light is on. She just wont settle till you turn it off. Its just not suitable to turn off the lights for her. Unfortunately her previous owners have never drawn boundaries with her. She used to jump up but have got her out of that. We dont allow her on the beds or lounge and she is pretty good with that.She has 2 beds inside and one outside and lots of toys, bones etc. She is walked daily. Very sociable with other dogs.
I know that she gets anxious with storms and rain. We had a little thunder and rain and she was nervous and wanting to climb onto my lap. I feel sure she will get over the thunder bit because my husband and boys play computer games with thunder sounding noise and she doesnt seem to bad so think she will desensitise to the noise.
I am open to suggestion on how to help this problem with her. She is fine if we go out. We put her outside. All other times she is in with us.
She also has wobblers which I knew about but it is mild. I walk her in a harness. Ive have tried ignoring her when she forces herself onto you but she really pushes harder. Ive tried growling at her and she does stop and look at me but I feel its the tone of voice and I dont really want to use harsh voice as Im not sure of her past and she gets that defeated look about her when you do it.

She is really a sweet girl and thanks for some advice anyone can offer
 

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I wrote this on whining...but constant attention, is the root cause.
- we have learned to walk around our girl, when she is laying in the kitchen...heading to supper time

My Amy is +11 years old, she still whines at times...kind of more an evening thing.
Dad on one laptop, Mom on the other laptop...and both watching TV...she begs for frequent love and attention.

I will ask her to fetch me me a toy stuffy, or walk over to her, and give her a pat on the head or a belly rub (she has a leather loveseat or couch).
Just helps a little, but when she is not sleeping...she gets bored sometimes and always want the human attention.
- her whine comes and goes...we just got use to it, as much as can be possible...and try and pay slightly more attention
- sometimes its just having an extra conversation with her, works for a period
- Amy get a marrow bone , once in a while, placed on a mat...by my feet / she likes to touch me, in some small way...makes her happy & content
Maybe you could train it out / not worth my effort though, Amy would not be an easy sell...and maybe that fault is what I like about dobes most:
- they need us / as much as we need them
 

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I agree with Dobejazz...give her a place to be. Give her things to do while laying down and start with teaching a down stay. You could clicker train her to go to her place. My dogs have a place in every room except the kitchen and if I am going to be in there for a while and can tell they are not content I drag a dog bed in for them. They gladly lay there and wait for me to finish. I have two dog beds in the living room plus they have the couch, love seat and reclyner, two raised beds and one kennel in the dinning room and two kennels in my bedroom. Hubby says I better stop or they will have more furniture than us. LOL
 

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Thanks for the replies. She does have beds in different rooms so she can come in and settle with us. I keep a chew treat for inside only for these times. She does settle with me in my computer room. She doesnt whinge and she doesnt jump all over the place, she just forces herself onto you to be petted. She certainly isnt deprived of affection or time. She just doesnt seem to know when enough is enough. I have physically pushed her away and said enough, and she will look at me in the most forlorn way, and then come back and do it again. Its frustrating. Im thinking that there must be some simple thing I need to be doing to discourage this. I keep thinking that in her past, she has somehow been neglected emotionally and is craving attention. Its the sort of behaviour that a pup might do, but she is 7 yrs old. She is responding well to the basic commands by using food. I taught my other dogs differently during training using a chain, but cannot teach this girl like this as I walk her in a harness due to the wobblers. I dont want to put any sort of trauma on her neck
 

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Like someone once said earlier - all we can do is love them and bake them cookies...their dobes, after all.
- some just need their caregivers, more than others / they are a people dog bread, more than most / with a powerful reasoning brain
 

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Sound s like she is confused since you have only had her a short time as far you growling at her I would not do that nor would I push her away.She may think that is a new way of playing to her.If you have to crate her give her a kong with peanut butter or something really yummy inside.She is trying to learn the ropes at your house it may take 3-6 months for her to know what you want of her.Think I would work some obedience a little every day,teach her a new trick just go slow with her work look up NILF will help teach her what you want of her also. She is confused look at it from her point of view,good luck to you both.
 

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If I were faced with your issue here is what I would try-

Give her lots of affection for a couple minutes, then tell her "that's enough" or whatever command you want to use. Force her to back off. Push her away, growl, get rough or whatever is necessary to get her to back off. As soon as she stays out of your space for even a moment, mark the behavior with a clicker, "yes" or whatever you mark behaviors with and throw an affection party where you practically drown her with love and affection. Over time (don't rush too fast) make her wait longer and longer between the time she backs off and the reward party.

The goal is to make her understand that you are in charge but at the same time make her understand that she is not being rejected outright and that she will get rewarded for following your leadership.

You appear to be describing a very insecure, nervous dog that joined your pack only two weeks ago. Give her time and provide plenty of affection but start setting boundaries.
 

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Is she crate trained? My suggestion would be to attach a very lightweight drag line to her. When she's going overboard, simply take her drag line and walk her to her crate and give her some time off. Be unemotional, don't acknowledge her, just take her to her crate.

I also HIGHLY recommend teaching a "go to your place" command like Dobejazz recommends. That's one of the most useful things a dog can learn. If you need resources for how to teach that I can link some up for you.
 

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that in her past, she has somehow been neglected emotionally and is craving attention.

Don't fall for it!!! My Toula although a rescue has never been deprived and sounds exactly like your girl.

Not the best way but I do use a squirt bottle to get my point across with her when "ENOUGH GO LAY DOWN" isn't working. I don't even have to spray her anymore just pick up the bottle.
 

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Thanks for everyones suggestions. Crates arent something that we use much over in here in Australia , except at shows. Im not really sure why they are used so much in the states. Is that because of apartment living?

Its hard when you dotn have them from pups because as pups ,you can teach them how you want them to behave and draw limitations. I hate to say it ,but some people just shouldnt have Dobes. They mean well but they just dont realise how intelligent these dogs are and you can give them an inch and they may take a mile.......or give them a centimetre and they may take a kilometre lol ;-) They can get set in ways that are hard to break.

Im finding that she is getting a little better with me with this pushy business. If she comes up and does it while Im at the pc, I say "enough", ignore her and put up my leg or arm and create a barrier so she cant get to me.She tries hard to get her head through but I just block her and she gives up after a while and lies on her bed.
 

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I would teach her to go lay down. Teaching her down stay and where would be the begining. When I was taught to teach down stays it was that I made sure I had enough time to make sure the dog could relax to get the point. With Kyrah it was approx 15mins. With Cujo it was more like 30-45 mins. This was in the begining and I did make the time. Which paid off in the long run b/c now when I tell them down stay they arent creeping trying to sneak up (normally they arent perfect) and if its on their spots (pillows in the front) they relax rather quickly. Teach her to like her "spot and laying there" reward her for doing so. If at any point you see her relaxing. Go and reward her.

We just had a simular thing with kyrah trying to be an affection pig. I am sitting on couch with Tippy next to me, Kyrah jumps on other side of Tippy and slowly reaches her head across. I give her a rub, then go back to here and petting Tippy. Then she tries to roll over onto Tippy to get her to move. I tell her "aahh, I am going to make you go lay down." So she leans back the other way. Then shortly afterwards she starts again to move her way in and I told her "off the couch." She is now politely laying on the other couch dozing on and off. Which her reward will be that I am about to make Tippy move and she will get her snuggle time. But this time it will be when I say not her. B/c yes, I am guilty that sometimes when she demands I give in. I try to keep an even balance.
 

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Just a little update on Angie. Thanks to everyone for their replies. She is getting a lot better. I think that I was forgetting that she had been the subject of quite an unsettled life recently.It wasnt her fault that she had a family one minute, and found herself at the pound the next. She has now relaxed a lot more and not so forceful. She is better with me than my husband. She is such a good girl, no problems......apart of reducing my lizard population lol. I think I have a little gem :). I must admit though, dont think I have had a dobe before who loves their food so much :)
 
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