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Hey all,

Just something I wanted to share with you all over the pond.
As I have mentioned, it is illegal to crop ears and dock tails here in Australia.
Sadly though, this has led to some horrific "accidents" to many Dobe's tails.
My vet has told me how many times he has had a Dobe come in to the surgery who has had an "unfortunate accident" and their tail is so badly damaged that it has to be amputated.
Apparently people slam them in doors, ride over them with mowers, cause some sort of chronic wound leading to necrosis and as many other brutal, inhumane and downright savage ideas that you can think of, in order to take the poor animal to the vet for amputation. Some have actually experienced traumatic amputation at home, and then the vet has to try and clean up the mess.
I asked the vet if there is any recourse open to him to report these so-called "accidents", but unfortunately there is not.
I feel that the government who have bought this law into practice, should also shoulder responsibility for what happens to these poor animals.
To my mind, it is far kinder and safer to the pup to be docked ASAP, than to leave the tail on thereby opening up a whole world of hurt for an innocent little victim.
And how disgusting that people can physically damage their pets in order to achieve a more "acceptable" look.
I think the pro's of tail docking outweigh the con's in this regard.
 

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People like that should lose their animal owning privilege. What disgusting excuses for human beings. If they want to own a docked Doberman so bad they can just import them from New Zealand, it's not that expensive... Probably costs as much as having a tail amputated with a whole lot less cruelty.

I myself will not ever purchase a docked Doberman, I enjoy tails way too much and love seeing Lottie use hers :)
 

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I agree with Disco about people who deliberately damage tails, ...but I also witnessed Zil whack his tail so hard on things like doorframes and table legs sometimes that it obviously hurt him...and there was a distinct "kink" in his tail when I got him from, I suspect, an old injury. I did enjoy watching his different tail carriages...but each time he hurt it, I felt incredibly uncomfortable that he was sufferring "unnecessary" pain.
I would much rather he had been docked as a neonate than suffer multiple injuries and pain and risk amputation at an older age. He had no spatial awareness of his tail...and when he was happy it packed a fair punch.
 

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My regular vet here is anti cropping (I go to a specialist in NJ for crops) However, he has said that he hopes we never lose the right to dock - because he has to amputate so many adult tails of larger breeds due to injuries that won't heal..... these are NOT injuries that are deliberate. I've seen a dog injure its tail by banging it on door frames also - and they are very difficult to wrap and get them to heal.

Docking IMHO saves a large dog from a lot of tail injuries
 

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My regular vet here is anti cropping (I go to a specialist in NJ for crops) However, he has said that he hopes we never lose the right to dock - because he has to amputate so many adult tails of larger breeds due to injuries that won't heal..... these are NOT injuries that are deliberate. I've seen a dog injure its tail by banging it on door frames also - and they are very difficult to wrap and get them to heal.

Docking IMHO saves a large dog from a lot of tail injuries
I agree. On Dane forums, happy tail threads are as common as ear cropping threads for us. Sadly enough, we get plenty of dogs into rescue that are being rehomed because the owner is sick of cleaning blood off their walls. Obviously not the most dedicated of owners, but it is not fun to live with and painful for the dogs.
 

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This is the exact reason that I hope it stay legal in the states. If you are going to do it, do it right with minimal pain. That is just horrible what those people are doing to their pets. I agree with Disco that these people should get their pet ownership taken away.
 
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Personally, I like a dobe with a docked tail, not to short & not to long...enough to cover up the bum...lol...no more hot coffee, knocked off the coffee table.

I grew up on a farm, cows had long tails...they used them all the time to swat pesky flies off their back.
And we had pigs, with a curly little tail...when flies got bad, they wallowed in the mud, to coat their bodies / their short tails, offer no fly defence.

Now since dobes are not standing out in a field 24/7 and they are inside house dogs (most of the time)...the need for a long tail is limited.
- although, the natural dobes look fantastic / the choice should be an individual owners decision, not a goverment legal mandate


Now this thread, got me wondering & curious - What does a wolf, use its tail for ??
- could it help them trudge through deep snow / balance...just a thought
 

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Personally, I like a dobe with a docked tail, not to short & not to long...enough to cover up the bum...lol...no more hot coffee, knocked off the coffee table.

I grew up on a farm, cows had long tails...they used them all the time to swat pesky flies off their back.
And we had pigs, with a curly little tail...when flies got bad, they wallowed in the mud, to coat their bodies / their short tails, offer no fly defence.

Now since dobes are not standing out in a field 24/7 and they are inside house dogs (most of the time)...the need for a long tail is limited.
- although, the natural dobes look fantastic / the choice should be an individual owners decision, not a goverment legal mandate


Now this thread, got me wondering & curious - What does a wolf, use its tail for ??
- could it help them trudge through deep snow / balance...just a thought
if they are swimming it helps them as they use it as a rutter, as does all the working breeds do as well. That is another reason dobes have a hard times swimming is that they can't do that.

wolves main use for their is as a communication tool.
 

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if they are swimming it helps them as they use it as a rutter, as does all the working breeds do as well. That is another reason dobes have a hard times swimming is that they can't do that.

wolves main use for their is as a communication tool.
Running and turning as well, Lottie uses her tail a lot when she is out running in the paddocks, it works as a rudder that way too.
 

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Running and turning as well, Lottie uses her tail a lot when she is out running in the paddocks, it works as a rudder that way too.
lol I thought rutter didn't look right, yes indeed they use it as a "rudder" that way too >.<
 

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Thanks o0 sHaDoWoLf 0o & the_discowhore...for the great input, to my question.
- I know both my dobes only went in the water once...both struggled to stay afloat (I was thinking the big chest, was pulling them down...so the missing tail, was a factor)
 

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Thanks o0 sHaDoWoLf 0o & the_discowhore...for the great input, to my question.
- I know both my dobes only went in the water once...both struggled to stay afloat (I was thinking the big chest, was pulling them down...so the missing tail, was a factor)
I don't think the lack of webbing in most of their feet help :) I've only ever had one that swam - and he was a CHAMP. He would jump off the dock, go for a swim, cool off and come back up on the boat and sun with me some more (we were tied off). He was a hoot. Would jump off anything if we called. The ONLY time you had to worried about being bit by him was if you tried to go on the wave runner w/out him. He would literally bite the life jacket and hang on until he climbed on then he would let go :) 2 weeks before we lost him to hemangio I took him for his last wave runner ride. My mom was having a fit - I said what's it going to do - kill him? He was absolutely thrilled - it was the most he moved in about 2 weeks at that point! And no - he had no tail LOL. The rest of the dobes back ends would sink like a rock. Had to have life jackets on all of them all summer ;)

PS - I have a GSD you can take the tail from :) I spent the last 8 years telling Brando I was going to dock him and make him a real dog :) Made me remember FAST why I like my Dobes docked LOL
 

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meekba - very touching and cute story on the wave runner (thks. for sharing)...they sure like to be involved, in all the human fun.
- yeah, lacking webbed paws, between their toes, is like a dog without having flippers on...he-he
 

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Thanks o0 sHaDoWoLf 0o & the_discowhore...for the great input, to my question.
- I know both my dobes only went in the water once...both struggled to stay afloat (I was thinking the big chest, was pulling them down...so the missing tail, was a factor)
Yeah well while I love the Dobe's natural tail I cannot say that this is true. Miles who has his tail..still can't swim worth a damn.
 

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Yeah well while I love the Dobe's natural tail I cannot say that this is true. Miles who has his tail..still can't swim worth a damn.
Never been able to see if Lottie can swim, she won't go in past her elbows....
 

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im not sure with my little guy yet. We havent been anywhere for him to get the chance I hope he does he likes playing in the bath tube. :)
 

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When Gin was about 10, I shut the door on her tail, and broke it. She did not get it amputated, though. My vet said the only reason to do that would be is the end of her tail died. It didn't, and her tail healed on its own, with just a knot where it had been broken. She lived to almost 15, and once it healed, never had another problem with it.
 
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