5 month old whines alot

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bronson54

Discussion Starter · Jul 6, 2007

i've had bronson since he was 3 months not he is 5.... every since i've had him he whines alot for no reason.... i get paranoid and always think he's sick... he whines in the car, whines when he's laying down, or just walking around... i'm new to the breed so any advice will help thanks

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hbwright

· #2 · Jul 6, 2007

First question would be if he's been to the vet. I'd assume he has been and has tested healthy since you've had him for a couple months already and still needs puppy shots.

If it were behavioral I'd recommend puppy classes. Puppy classes are great and a must for doberman pups (all dogs really should have them). Does he wine when he is away from you, with you, all the time? A lot of dogs whine in the car, whine when they want to go out, etc.

bronson54

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 6, 2007

he is healthy and has had all his shots, he whines alot when he is close to my wife and i, pretty much all the time.... after he whines for about 5 minutes he stops but yes he does whine all the time

tjmom

· #4 · Jul 6, 2007

dobermans are very vocal dogs. My Titus would even "talk" to us. We called it monkey talk and I really think that he thought that we understood him. There were even different variations to his "talk". I could tell when he was just telling me something or when he was telling me off.

Whenever your pup is whining do not reinforce it by petting him or showing any kind of affection. What you should do is when he starts whining do not acknowledge it. When he stops whining is when you can give him praise or affection.

Hope this helps.

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bronson54

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 6, 2007

thanks for the advice.

Julie W

· #6 · Jul 6, 2007

Frequent whining to me is a sign of mental unrest. Doberman puppies can WEAR YOU OUT. I would make sure he gets to free run (in a safe area of course) to his hearts content and that he gets 3-4 short obedience sessions a day to keep him stimulated. Time will calm the whining, but a tired puppy is always a good puppy.

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MaryAndDobes

· #7 · Jul 6, 2007

Julie W said:
Time will calm the whining, but a tired puppy is always a good puppy.

First of all, I can't stand that saying - a tired puppy is a good puppy. A tired puppy is a tired puppy, period. A good puppy is a trained puppy. Tiring them out isn't training them to be any better. It's just providing them with needed exercise. I'm only saying this because a lot of people are always advising novices to exercise the puppy more and more and more, and what they're doing is building a canine athlete who then *needs* more and more and more exercise to get the apparently desired effect of a tired puppy. I don't agree with this. Certainly, I agree that puppies need an appropriate amount of exercise .... BUT they also need to learn how to behave without vast amounts of exercise. They need to be trained, not just exercised until they are tired so that the owner then believes they are good.

I also don't agree that time is going to calm whining. I can't stand a whiny dog, personally. They need to learn a "knock it off" or "enough" command as soon as the behaviour starts. If the puppy starts whining, I'd never pay it any attention whilst doing so. Never reward that behaviour with attention! If the poster is paranoid and believing that the dog is ill, I imagine that there is some degree of coddling going on when the whining starts (what's wrong? are you ok? Poor baby! It's ok ... etc). These are all really wrong things to do - it plays right into giving the puppy attention for a poor behaviour and it tells the puppy it's ok to whine, that he's rightfully whining. When the whining starts, tell him "enough!", move away quickly, maybe that will get him moving and he can forget about whining for a minute (movement tends to do that) and he can be rewarded for NOT whining.

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bean

· #8 · Jul 6, 2007

I also value the "enough" command. Or sometimes in my house it's a sharp "ah!" noise which is my "knock-it-off" noise. Don't forget to give attention when the pup is being quiet. Not over-the-top exciting attenion, but quiet praise and maybe some love.

We have a whiny GSD - also common in the breed. She learned "speak" and "whisper" and then "quiet". It took a lot of patience. For her, I had to ignore, but if she didn't stop whining, I'd correct with the "AH!... quiiiieeet" with the 'quiet' in soft tones. She doesn't get to do anything when she whines. No release to eat dinner until she's quiet, no forward motion to walk unless she's quiet, no attention unless she's quiet. She's come a loooong way. It's a tough one. I can't stand whining myself. Your dog needs to learn that it's not OK to whine, and that he gets more attention for other, positive things. An interesting note - she whines more with my husband who tolerates whining more than I do. She honestly knows now that she has to be quiet to get whatever she wants... (from me LOL)

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lyngr

· #9 · Jul 6, 2007

MaryAndDobes said:
First of all, I can't stand that saying - a tired puppy is a good puppy. A tired puppy is a tired puppy, period. A good puppy is a trained puppy. Tiring them out isn't training them to be any better. It's just providing them with needed exercise. I'm only saying this because a lot of people are always advising novices to exercise the puppy more and more and more, and what they're doing is building a canine athlete who then *needs* more and more and more exercise to get the apparently desired effect of a tired puppy. I don't agree with this. Certainly, I agree that puppies need an appropriate amount of exercise .... BUT they also need to learn how to behave without vast amounts of exercise. They need to be trained, not just exercised until they are tired so that the owner then believes they are good.

I also don't agree that time is going to calm whining. I can't stand a whiny dog, personally. They need to learn a "knock it off" or "enough" command as soon as the behaviour starts. If the puppy starts whining, I'd never pay it any attention whilst doing so. Never reward that behaviour with attention! If the poster is paranoid and believing that the dog is ill, I imagine that there is some degree of coddling going on when the whining starts (what's wrong? are you ok? Poor baby! It's ok ... etc). These are all really wrong things to do - it plays right into giving the puppy attention for a poor behaviour and it tells the puppy it's ok to whine, that he's rightfully whining. When the whining starts, tell him "enough!", move away quickly, maybe that will get him moving and he can forget about whining for a minute (movement tends to do that) and he can be rewarded for NOT whining.

Amen! Excellent advice.

DreamDoby

· #10 · Jul 6, 2007

I have been waiting years for Asher to stop whining. Not going to happen anytime in his lifetime. I am not a huge fan of whiners, especially when he is sitting in front of me whining while I am watching the television. He gets ignored and when he gets real bossy with it (in your face) he gets told to "knock it off". Usually the ignoring works after a few minutes.

Beanie

· #11 · Jul 11, 2007

My dobie whined relentlessly. I thought it had to be due with her breeding. My dad told my that was not normal in dobes. It got better with age but not alot. Beanie did it alot worse to my ex-wife than she did to me.

smokin'honey

· #12 · Jul 12, 2007

Myla is whiney too. She has been worse since my bf moved out, I think she misses her daddy. Most of the time, she just whines when she's talking back. I've summed her up to be a talkative girl, although she is learnin the "enough" command because her high pitched whine is just too much.

Julie W

· #13 · Jul 12, 2007

First of all, I can't stand that saying - a tired puppy is a good puppy. A tired puppy is a tired puppy, period. A good puppy is a trained puppy. Tiring them out isn't training them to be any better

Sure it is. Did you not read the part where I said a lot of exercise PLUS 3 to 4 short obedience sessions a day? Being mentally worked is every bit as good as being physically worked. There is more than one way to tire out a puppy, and mental work is one of them.

CathyandBaron

· #14 · Jul 12, 2007

O wow, I hope my doberman doesn't whine and keep my toddler up at night, that would not be good.

TedMac

· #15 · Jul 12, 2007

MaryAndDobes said:
I'm only saying this because a lot of people are always advising novices to exercise the puppy more and more and more, and what they're doing is building a canine athlete who then *needs* more and more and more exercise to get the apparently desired effect of a tired puppy.

I'm glad that you mention this because i've been having the same exact thoughts on this topic...does the dog need 6 miles a day because he needs it...or because he's been conditioned for it......or something like that....sorry for being a little off topic, but great thread

Okie-dobie

· #16 · Jul 13, 2007 (Edited)

I exercised ******* alot as a puppy. Lot's of free running, hiking, and o.b. training. I loved that she would come home and flop for a couple of hours. I could get alot done when she was sleeping!! She is now 1 year old and I don't find she needs tons of exercise to get her tired, nor does she need to be on the go all the time. I think lot's of exercise is a good thing, both mentally and physically.

Sorry to go off the original threads topic..

Julie W

· #17 · Jul 13, 2007

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I'm glad that you mention this because I've been having the same exact thoughts on this topic...does the dog need 6 miles a day because he needs it...or because he's been conditioned for it......or something like that....sorry for being a little off topic, but great thread

I think I am fairly knowledgeable on this subject considering I race dogs and I condition the CRAP out of them. I believe in well conditioned dogs. Just ask Elaine what kind of shape Cher is in now living with race dogs compared to what condition she was in before I took her home several months ago. She still has a long way to go, and being in season right now will temporarily take away all the muscle we've built up so far, but she'll get it back plus some. None of my dogs act any different on non-exercise days or even in the winter when they have 3 full months off from conditioning. Being well exercised is good for the body and soul and nobody can convince me otherwise.

These are pics of some of my well conditioned dogs that are also complete couch potatoes whether they are getting exercised or not.

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phoenixphyre

· #18 · Jul 14, 2007

My guy only whines when he needs to take a nap. Once he's slept for a few hours, he's fine again.

edanias

· #19 · Sep 20, 2011

Wow I am so glad I found this post, Kaydee is 6 months old now she is driving me up a wall with her whining. I am getting really agitated with her the whining turns into barking. Why is she doing this I do not give into her now hubby will, we get into disagreements about her whining. When hubby isn't home she is whine free. When Gary ignores her she gets worse with the whining then it turns into barking. Any advise please. Thanks!:confused2

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Herb2relax

· #20 · Sep 21, 2011

Thankfully Kyrah hasnt really been a whiner. There are sometimes in the morning after we come home from exercising that she feels I am taking too long to feed her. I want her to cool down first. She will whine very low while I am in my room getting ready for work. I always give her a quick "ah" or "enough" and if she does it again. She goes out my room with the door shut in her face. Poor baby, I feel bad but I surely am not going to spend the next 10-15mins listening to it. She is always laying by the door when I open it. Quiet as can be. But I love when she is talking to me which doesnt happen often. When it does tho I laugh with her and encourage her. Then I will either give her what she is bitching about or I tell her "enough."

Kyrah was starting to whine in the early morning to wake me up and it was becoming a huge bad habit. I became much more firm and told her to go to bed. I believe I put her out the room a couple times. I am so glad she isnt doing that anymore. But my dogs are our alarm clock. They start moving around between 5:30am and 6am. There is no whining just moving around, flapping of ears and ticking of paws as they all get up. Makes me much happier to get up.

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