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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 04-02-2016, 05:15 AM Thread Starter
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Even though I don't "like" the new default much (because 1) it's harder to navigate 2) lost some features I really like-like being able to look at the end of a thread without started at the first post 3) I hate the home page featuring ads with beagles as "the dog" instead of a Dobe--really! on a dedicated Doberman forum? and 4) the first page banner has just four dogs on it for my computer--no puppies, and it's only a very narrow section at the top--I clearly don't see what other people see)

I found switching to a different "skin" (????? skin? what's that mean???) didn't return all of the older features-basically it changed the color of background and other items--so I'm giving up and learning to live with "new"--even though I don't like it much. And it's sure not faster for me--but I usually write stuff like that up to the fact that I'm still dial up and using Internet Explorer. <SIGH>
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I am sticking with the classic.

every once in awhile I try the new look, just do not like it.

really dislike the home page in either one.
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I don't know how to get to the classic.. Not liking this new one all that much... probably just a negative reaction to change and what I'm used to and comfortable with.. will muddle through.
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Lady Kate...........

scroll down to the bottom of this page.

left hand side.

there you can change back to the lovely classic look.
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Classic. I'll check out the new one every so often, but so far, I don't like it at all. Too high contrast for my poor eyes.


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I don't know how to get to the classic.. Not liking this new one all that much... probably just a negative reaction to change and what I'm used to and comfortable with.. will muddle through.
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Go to User CP > Edit Options > scroll to the bottom of he page where it says "Miscellaneous Options" > forum skin drop down menu select Dobermantalk.com classic. You will have the old colors back.

The new colors hurt my eyes
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it does seem to run slower however I am sticking with the new since it appears that is what is here for now.
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Back to the classic look,,,thanks 4 x4.
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Back to the classic look,,,thanks 4 x4.
Thank Iceman. That was copy of a post a few days ago by Iceman.

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You don't even need to go to your CP to change it, just scroll to the bottom of any page on the forum and there's a drop down on the left side.
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I don't know how to get to the classic.. Not liking this new one all that much... probably just a negative reaction to change and what I'm used to and comfortable with.. will muddle through.
^^ Justified negative reaction IMO.

Before retirement, I worked as an Industrial Engineer & was a successful change agent, for almost 3 decades (in a manufacturing auto parts plant).
- I constantly implemented changes that took a great deal of thought/planning/execution, for good ROI/profit margin
Even I went back to the old DT look, just a few minutes ago & cast my vote accordingly.
- original Classic look preferred 1.75-1 ratio... so far, yikes...I'm sure future new members, won't know any different

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I really dislike the homepage now. I liked the old way, where the recent new/active posts were displayed all the way across. Now we have these...ads with the recent posts squished off to the right. Blah, is what I say. Oh and I'm using the classic look, for what it's worth.
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Ugh... I hate seeing my name in invisible yellow. Oh wait.... Easy solution... Don't re-up my Gold Supporting Membership. LOL
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I'm using the default new one, mostly because if there are changes, I'd like to know about them. Plus, I'd feel bad using the classic version when someone spent a lot of time on this one.

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Thank you Darkevs for the instructions on how to go back to the classic! I was avoiding the forum as reading it w/ the red and white contrast was too hard on my eyes. I think the new version would be fine if the colors could be corrected, but is totally unusable for me as it is now.
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On my phone the ads are so big I thought for a minute or two that the forum disappeared and was replaced by those empty urls that only have ads.

I`m glad you made this thread and let me know I had the choice to change back. The classic skin seemed more doberman appropriate. The new skin makes me think of a gamer forum.
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Thank you! Thanks STJ! I was not relaxed in any way, at all, while going through this conversion process. I was on the verge of a panic attack. I felt like I was at work.

No way to relax...

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Ugh... I hate seeing my name in invisible yellow. Oh wait.... Easy solution... Don't re-up my Gold Supporting Membership. LOL
That means you are expendable! LMAO
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I haven't been on in a while, and when I signed in and saw this new "format", it was an affront to my eyes, and my sensibilities. I hate the colors, and it seems cold and harsh. If I can figure out how, I am going back to the classic, elegant original.


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I haven't been on in a while, and when I signed in and saw this new "format", it was an affront to my eyes, and my sensibilities. I hate the colors, and it seems cold and harsh. If I can figure out how, I am going back to the classic, elegant original.
easy...just scroll to the bottom left of the page where you will see a drop down menu which says Doberman Talk Full...
change that to Doberman Talk Classic..

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Good to see you back. I'm still stuck on the classic skin until something changes. I just can't do the white background.
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Wow.

Over 68% prefer the classic look.

I am not overly surprised.

I do wonder if The Petguide team even cares what we think.


Edit to add.... Hey lolonurse, good to see ya girl.

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I hate the new look. Glad to know its easily changed back to the classic.

The new look is really abrasive. It makes this forum look like every other crap pet forum out there and, really that's not how this site started. Better breed knowledge and experience have been through this site than maybe all other pet sites put together. I hate to see it homogenized by a corporation in an attempt to make more money off a broader, less informed public. But I'm guessing that's what it is. They want more site traffic, quality be damned. That's been this forum's problem for a while now. Or, it's at least one problem... (Is anyone even still around who remembers the pinkies? )



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Classic, definitely classic. I was so relieved when someone a while back advised how to change it back!

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