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WAE + DPCC National Specialty

Just wondering if anyone is going or planning on going? Since it is in Long Sault this year, I am jumping at the occasion and have Nadia signed up for the WAE on the Monday. But I am thinking of possibly attending both Saturday and Sunday or just Sunday. I believe Sunday will also see the regional specialty for the DPCGM.

I was very tempted to buy a catalogue advert page and very tempted to enter Nadia in a confo class or two but alas I don't have a handler for her and handling her myself would be plain crazy in a CKC breed ring at this point lol.

Would love to see other fellow DTers if anyone is going?
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Just wondering if anyone is going or planning on going? Since it is in Long Sault this year, I am jumping at the occasion and have Nadia signed up for the WAE on the Monday. But I am thinking of possibly attending both Saturday and Sunday or just Sunday. I believe Sunday will also see the regional specialty for the DPCGM.

I was very tempted to buy a catalogue advert page and very tempted to enter Nadia in a confo class or two but alas I don't have a handler for her and handling her myself would be plain crazy in a CKC breed ring at this point lol.

Would love to see other fellow DTers if anyone is going?
Unfortunately, Artemis--I'm about a half a continent away--I love to go to specialties and I love to watch WAE's as well.

If you are going to the National you should go to the Regional as well--it's fun to see what different judges do with pretty much the same dogs and usually you are getting an opportunity to see the best of what is being shown right now in the ring and who lives up to their advertisements and who doesn't..

Dang it all--I'm just plain too far away.

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Unfortunately, Artemis--I'm about a half a continent away--I love to go to specialties and I love to watch WAE's as well.

If you are going to the National you should go to the Regional as well--it's fun to see what different judges do with pretty much the same dogs and usually you are getting an opportunity to see the best of what is being shown right now in the ring and who lives up to their advertisements and who doesn't..

Dang it all--I'm just plain too far away.

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Too far away?? LOL

Call a spade a spade.... Too old and too disabled.

Trust me. I am familiar with the concept!

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We will be there. I plan to do agility with Maverick and Kya will be testing in the WAE and the BH. She will also be showing with a Junior handler as well.
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This information on the WAE was shared on FB and other lists by Eve Auch. Just FYI for anyone planning to enter (quoting below):
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Subject: [Cyberdobes] WAE at the National - long and important

To anyone who wants to enter the WAE at the National in Topeka this year please read carefully.

I just want to give everyone a head’s up. There will be one WAE in Topeka and it will be limited to 25 dogs.

There has been no information regarding this year’s WAE at the National and quite frankly I am getting inundated with questions. I simply do not have time to continually answer all the questions so I am sending this out to a couple of lists and hopefully someone will put this on the Facebook lists.

First I had nothing to do with the decision of the Board. In fact I fought against it as long as I could. The Board did not budge. Apparently they were told by a Board member that more than one WAE at the National would take entries away from Chapter Clubs. And that one WAE would be limited to 25 dogs. That means that the Priority List will kick in for the first time in decades. I argued that for the past several years the two evaluations numbered over 60 dogs and I never saw that any Chapter Club lost entries due to having the two evaluations at the National. In fact I had the numbers to prove that no Chapter Club lost entries due to having two WAEs at the National. No budging from the Board.

I was told initially that only Chapter Clubs that needed compliance could be involved in a second WAE. That is untrue because last year a Chapter Club was allowed to participate and I knew they were in compliance because I had done their WAE the year before. No explanation has ever been given for that change in the rules. In fact neither I (doing the paper work) nor the evaluator (who had contacted with workers for the course) were told that a third club was involved. We both found out when we went to the course that morning to set up. So I’m no longer sure of the rules. Regardless…..

I also pointed out that the National has been held recently in just two locations (with a third one thrown in once) so many people do not have the option of attending the National. I also pointed out that 23 States do not have a Chapter Club. Didn’t matter how I tried, there was going to be one WAE and it would be limited to 25 entries.

So…..

I no longer take the entries. Everything will be done through the link of the DPCA website which is either PayPal or credit card. Once entered and paid for, the entry will be forwarded to me. It is then up to the people entering to send copies of their qualifying titles to me separately. DO NOT send in copies of the titles until you have entered and paid. Your entry number is based on when you pay but will also include when titles are received. Once I have the entry and the matching copies of certificates, I will put a number on them in the order received. That means if you enter on August 15 but you don’t send me copies of your title(s) until September 5, your number will be substantially lower in ranking.

If your dog in not in category 1, it means that you will not be confirmed until after entries close. Only Priority 1 is guaranteed of an entry. And if there happen to be 26 in Priority 1, then the last one entering will not make it. That, of course, is a highly unlikely scenario. You will be notified if your dog made it into the WAE after entries close. That means:

1. All champions WITH qualifying performance title will automatically be considered first….even if their entry isn’t received until the last day before closing and they have sent in copies of their titles.

2. After all Priority 1 dogs are entered, the second part of the Priority List kicks in. That means all dogs with a Championship OR a qualifying performance title will be accepted next. Remember in Priority 2 no title is more important than any other title as long as all titles are qualifying performance titles. Performance titles carry the same weight as championships.

3. Lastly, all other dogs will be considered in the order in which their entries are received. That means you may have been the first person to enter but if there are 25 dogs that fill up the first two Priority Lists, you will be bumped.

If you have a dog with no titles, I would suggest that you go online and get your dog entered immediately. That also includes the dogs in the second Priority list because, as an example, if there are 15 dogs that qualify under Priority 1, and another 20 dogs qualify under Priority 2, only the first 10 will be accepted from Priority 2 and that will be according to the date entered and copies of title(s) provided.

I hope I’ve explained this so everyone knows what I am saying. Please don’t blame me. I am not on the Board. I can only push so hard and believe me, I’ve pushed. If you don’t like the way it is being done this year for the first time in decades, please contact the Board, not me.

I know this is long but it is the only way I can explain it. As I said earlier, I fought a losing battle. It happens. Life goes on. My only suggestion is that you get your entries in as soon as you can. The entry form is on the website under Shows. If you don’t make it, your entry fee will be refunded.

Take care, and hope to see everyone at the National. Permission to forward this to Facebook and any other place where it will get attention is granted.

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Yes, the DPCC has mentioned on the premium and the actual form that the entry will be limited to 25 dogs and the priority will be given to dogs with a CH, then dogs with other performance titles. Pre-entere dogs will have priority over same-day entries, even if the pre-entered don't have titles.

G_R really looking forward to meeting you and your pups! I was a little disappointed when I found out the BH is just the "HB" and not the IGP BH as I would have done that there instead of going to connecticut this weekend for it.

Now I am even more looking forward to attending.
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Yes, the DPCC has mentioned on the premium and the actual form that the entry will be limited to 25 dogs and the priority will be given to dogs with a CH, then dogs with other performance titles. Pre-entere dogs will have priority over same-day entries, even if the pre-entered don't have titles.

G_R really looking forward to meeting you and your pups! I was a little disappointed when I found out the BH is just the "HB" and not the IGP BH as I would have done that there instead of going to connecticut this weekend for it.

Now I am even more looking forward to attending.
Whoa what is the HB? I assumed it was the BH like it has been all of the other years.
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Whoa what is the HB? I assumed it was the BH like it has been all of the other years.
From the secretary:
"There’s open HB which is the old way of doing open and open 18 which is the new way."
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So maybe I'm crazy but some of you are talking about the DPCC specialty in 2 weeks and I think some of you are talking about the DPCA specialty in October ...
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So maybe I'm crazy but some of you are talking about the DPCC specialty in 2 weeks and I think some of you are talking about the DPCA specialty in October ...
I thought I was going crazy but I'm glad I apparently am not the only one who had the impression this was the case!
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Oh, gosh, yes! Sorry, I definitely was reading too quickly and thought it was the DPCA National! Sorry about that, Artemis!


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I ended up not making it to the Saturday and Sunday... but got there on Monday for the WAE after some hair raising adventures lol! Will make a separate post about it, but as a quick update for those curious 11 dogs participated in the WAE and 6 of the earned their WAC - Nadia did so with flying colours
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