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Farewell Kaiser, you will be missed...

I have been a lurker for 10 years and my first post is in Rainbow Bridge...for which I feel terrible.

Yesterday, I had to put down Kaiser, our beloved Dobe of 10 years (just turned 10 last week). He developed a limp about four weeks ago and the vet thought he may have damaged a disc in his cervical spine. He was placed on steroids and it seemed to help. After about two weeks we dialed back the dosage and all seemed better until about a week or so ago. We took him back in the vet and then upped his dosage. This time, he did not seem to respond to the treatment. His condition slowly seemed to worsen to the point where he had difficulty walking and even standing - the thinking was that the bulging disc (or possible tumor - we did not get an MRI) was pushing up against his spine and causing neurological issues for him. It was heartbreaking to see this, as he was such an active dog. On Monday night I came down stairs to learn he had slept on the first floor, he always slept upstairs with my son. He still managed to get up and eat breakfast and then go outside to relieve himself, albeit it slowly with a slight wobble. That same day when I arrived home, he was standing frozen like a statue in the kitchen and wouldn't move. Had to coax him with a treat to his bed (he still had his appetite). The next morning he again slept downstairs, but now he would/could not get up. We upped his dosage on the steroids, but this seemed to have little effect. We actually had to carry all 100lbs of him outside so he could relieve himself (by the point he had a chest harness on that had a handle above his back - still took both my wife and I to get him outside). We thought for sure this was the end for him and hated to see him suffer like this. I took him to the vet again on Wednesday, thinking this was the end. I cried the whole way, all the while talking to him. The vet and my wife thought we should leave him there overnight so they could try some additional meds too see if they would help. But late afternoon that same day, there was no improvement so I decided to go and get him to bring him home - I did not want him spending his last night in a cage at the vet, all alone. I brought him home and carried him to his bed (the vet did give him a narcotic injection to help with the pain).

By this time, he was no longer eating. He didn't spend a single second alone that night. Everyone got to spend some time with him and say goodbye. I slept downstairs with him. It was a long night, as he would whimper and whine until I pet or touched him and then he would just lay his head down again. I spent most of the night on the floor with him, rather than the couch as I had planned - I wish I could do it all again just have more time with him - but that's me being selfish, as he was obviously so uncomfortable. Twice we carried him outside in hopes he would relieve himself, but he would just fall down after hobbling a few feet. Horrible to watch.

Thursday morning, everyone again got to say goodbye and I then I took him back to the vet. The second day in a row I had to do the "last drive". I spoke to him the whole way, reassuring him that the pain would soon be gone. Once at the vet, we carried him inside. I had brought his bed from home, rather than have him lay on the table slab. They gave him a sedative and left me alone with him. I broke down and just told him how much I/we loved him and how much he was going to be missed - and how good of a dog he was. I was holding his paw and they then placed his other paw on top of my hand...and then he was gone. I want to believe he was reassuring me that everything was going to be OK. I promised him i would take him back home one more time (plan to spread his ashes int he yard that he so loved). Once he was gone, the vet and take again left the room and I balled my eyes out. Understand, I am not known to be overly emotional, but I have cried more in two days than since I was a little kid. I did not want to leave his body behind. After a few minutes I mustered up enough energy and strength to leave.

It has only been a little over 24hrs since Kaiser left us, but it still doesn't feel real. For 10 years he was a part of our family and our kids grew up with him. A massive void now exists in our house. I look forward to receiving his ashes and bringing him home one last time.

I miss you Kaiser.


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Hi CT...

Welcome from the Pacific NW.

Too bad we have to meet under these circumstances.

My condolences for the passing of your beloved Kaiser. Please sick around. Many folks here are Dobe-less.

@KAISER : Run free. Be free. Pain Free....

Lastly, I know that it won't make you feel any better, but 10 years is a nice and desirable life span for a Doberman.

Again... Glad that you are here

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I am so sorry. Reading of your loss brings back the pain we experienced and brought fresh tears for you and your family. Try to think of how privileged to have owned one of these magnificent dogs.
I hope the memories made with him will bring you peace.
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So sorry to hear this - condolences to all of you.

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It's never enough time when you lose something that so vividly loves his life and those around him. My aunt used to compare dobies to meteors, burning so brightly and then disappearing too soon.
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So sorry to hear of this news.....absolutely heartbreaking.
Peace be with you and yours forever.
And Kaiser .........we will all miss you so much and thanks for giving your family that one last paw to signify you were so sorry.. but had to go to be with all of our other pups.
We hear it's a beautiful place......and we are also told we will reunite someday. Many many pokes Kaiser! See you on the other side.

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So , So Sorry , its heart breaking , most of us on here has gone threw it .

Here's a poem that Louis from England sent me a few weeks ago, Run free Big guy and watch out for a gal playing or chewing on lots of balls .

Thank you for taking my pain away,
I know it was a hard decision to make,
Just between me and you,
My body had taken all it could take,
I really hated having to leave you,
My favorite place ever, is by your side,
But as much as I tried to cover it up,
The pain I was in, I couldn't hide,
I know the decision you made was difficult,
But your choice was the right one that day,
It had gotten to where my life wasn't fun,
I didnt want to eat or play,
You gave everything you had for me,
To make my life an amazing place,
The memories I have will be eternal,
Even time could never erase!
I know you struggled with that choice,
It was really the right thing to do,
Please remember I am never far away,
Because my spirit lives inside of you,
If I could leave you with one thought forever,
These words will always ring true,
I promise to live in your heart for eternity,
And I will always love you!

Written by Jerry Wayne Baldwin, author and musician!
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I am sorry for your loss and the pain that you are going through RIP Kaiser
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I am so sorry for your loss. I know your pain well and it brings tears to my eyes for my own old gal, Coco.

Let yourself cry and grieve as you need to. We all know these loveys are not just "dogs". They are our family and leave a huge hole when they go. They love us so much that we love them enough to take their pain and make it our own. And we would do it over and over again because that's how blessed we were to have them in our lives.

Hugs to you and your family. We are all here for you.
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Hello CT - My condolences on the loss of your loved one Kaiser.
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I'm very sorry for your loss, and condolences to you and your family. R.I.P., Kaiser.



She is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are her life, her love, her leader. She will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of her heart. You owe it to her to be worthy of such devotion.
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So very, very sorry for your loss. Sleep softly sweet Kaiser.
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My sympathies to you and your family.
Rest in Peace Kaiser.
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So many white candles have been lit. The memory of all these companions is just heartbreaking. So very sorry for your loss.
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I'm so sorry.

Run free, Kaiser.
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Thanks everyone for the kinds and thoughtful words, really means a lot and my heart goes out to all who have suffered a loss.

While I am still reeling from the void that has now defended on our home, it really helped me to put write my thoughts and emotions down in here, arguably therapeutic. I think once I receive his remains and scatter them throughout the big yard he so loved, it will help bring some closure for me...know that I kept my promise to hime of bringing him "home one last time" and knowing that he will forever be back home where he was so very much loved.

I tried to post two pics of Kaiser, one of when he was happy and healthy and the other which was the last pic taken of him...my holding his paw and his other paw resting top of my hand - but it didn't seem to work and I frankly don't have the energy to figure out why. I will try to share photos of Kaiser at some point.

Again, thank you all for your kind words.

Run free Kaiser, run free...
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I'm sorry I missed this earlier. My own loss is still so fresh, I can't think of a single thing to say except I feel your awful pain. Hugs to you and your family.
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Condolences on the loss of your dobe, Kaiser.
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I'm so sorry for the loss of your Kaiser. I've felt your pain and started crying in the middle of your post. I know there are no amount of words to ease the heartache. Eventually, somewhere down that aching road, the tears come less frequently and for shorter duration. I still cry for Dobe girl after 10 years. Cherish the great love that has brought you to this great pain. Did you good by him. Hugs.
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