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Housebreaking Help

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My puppy is peeing in the house a little more than I thought or had expected since his previous owner told me he was already pretty much housebroken...(NOT!!!!) I was wondering what the best way to get him trained would be? Should I start from square one with paper training? or do I just keep watching him and trying to catch him in the act and tell him outside and take him to the same spot outside to go to the bathroom. These past 2 days I have been doing the catching him in the act routine, Trust me it could be going better. Any other secrets or hints would be great. Thank you all for your help and responses!!!!!!
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How old did you say he is??
The main things I always do with a pup, no matter the age, is to take them outside after they first get up from any sleep, after meals and before bedtime. You really need to take them out probably around every hour till they are about four months old or so just for the peeing. Boys!!!
If you crate your pup for sleep time and at nights it will help immensely.
The rest of the time I just watch them constantly and when they start to go, say "No" loudly, and either pick them up or lease and take them outside, depending on their age. My boy started going to the door one week and one day after I got him at nine and a half weeks old. Now if I didn't see him at the door he would pee so I really had to watch him. Also, don't punish them if they go inside, just say no(you have to catch them in the act to say anything)and swoop them outside.

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I didn't bother using a newspaper on the floor because I wanted our pup to go outside and didn't want to add to any confusion about where her potty spot was. Just to repeat what Linda has said, just automatically take him out after he eats, drinks, sleeps, plays and right before he is put into his crate at night - every hour is about right when he is awake. Praise him like he just won the lottery when he goes outside (no matter how foolish you may think you sound - we've all been there). Eventually he'll get the hang of the schedule.

Baby gates are a life-saver during the housebreaking period, if only to keep puppy where you can see him.
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Baby gates are amazing, keep them in say the kitchen till they can be trusted. My rule of thumb really was, I took him out every hour almost on the hour, he's getting better now, like everyone else says, When they wake up, after they play, I always take him out right before new people come over if friends are coming over, and then again about 15 mins after they arrive, (nothing is more embarrassing then the new pup peeing on someones foot, lol) get the dog on a schedule, and I like using a pee command, everytime I take him outside I say "get busy" till he goes, then lots of good boys when he does and give him a treat for going outside. The first few weeks it seemed like a lot, now it just seems natural and he's getting much better, he just a run and jump at the door when he needs to go out,
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Lots of good advice above. My two are just getting the message. My 6mo is actually starting to stand in front of the door, but my almost 4mo female is a work in progress. I never scold for accidents, but I do tell them a firm "NO". good luck
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Persistence and not letting him be unsupervised is the key. Like with any puppy, at first, you have to decide when they go out to potty. If you leave it up to them, they wait until its too late. When you are with them, take them out at regular intervals at first. I started with every 30 minutes at first, because puppies need to pee after everything they do. Then start to increase the times between potty breaks. If you can not watch them, they should be crated. You really do not want to give then a chance to potty in the house. Accidents do happen though, but repeatedly, it becomes a learned behavior. Make sure you go with them to potty and when they do go potty, praise them like they did the most wonderful thing in the world.



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we haven't used crate training and Bailey at almost 4 months hasn't had an accident in weeks now. He noses the cat flap on the back door when he wants out and will even 'go pee' to order if we need him to go before we take him in the car etc

We were consistent with our toilet training and like Kratty said above took him out always after waking, after 10 minutes of solid playing, every 30 minutes or so and any time when he looked like he needed.

I read somewhere that you can average 1 hour of bladder control for each month of puppy age so for a 3 month old puppy they 'should' have 3 hours bladder control when 'at rest'.

even though Bailey appears to completely house trained we still take him out after playing and after waking - the time spaces are just a bit longer now.


consistence is the key and making sure you take him out often - even when it is a pain
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Crates help SIGNIFICANTLY during house breaking process.
Just gotta be very diligent and patient. I took out my pup almost every hour for atleast a week, then very slowly extended the intervals.

Also, don't forget to get a bottle or two of Nature's Miracle, which is a stain/odor removal when they pee. I used it enough lol..
I remember i was also Extremely tired the first 2 weeks I had my pup. So keep plugging.. The grass is greener on the other side!
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In addition to all the great advice, be sure that you totally remove the smell. Clean immediatly so they won't smell it and go back to the same area. Maybe what Sizzur posted does that, I used Clorox wipes on my wood floors and I bought a spot shampoo thing from Walmart and used the cleaner that removes pet smells. I used all the above advice and crated him when I could not watch him. Sometimes I even kept him on a leash in the house. He was house broke very early but he had a submissive urinating problem for month or so after he was housebroke. He would be playing with the other dogs and it would just come out. You can't scold them for that, it is best to ignore it and clean it quick and completley. I also bell trained him. First I trained him to touch my hand. I would rub a treat on my palm then hold it in front of him, when he touched it would say touch as I saw him coming toward my hand then good touch when his nose hit. After he had that down, I hung a bell by the door and everytime I opended it to take him out I would ring the bell and open the door. I did this for almost a whole day. Then I started holding the bell in front of my hand and saying touch, when he did I would open the door and let him. You have to be prepared though, at first they ring the darn thing every 15 minutes but you have to let them out everytime they ring it at first or it won't stick. I finally started having to take it down when I knew he already went and I just wanted to sit down for a minute. He currently has broken his bell so has resorted to jumping on the door.
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when i trained my pups to go outside i just take them outside knowing that they usually need to go every hour if they're still young under 9 weeks ... after that they usually go after they sleep .. nap .. eat .. play and so on ... take them outside instead of using newspaper... this way there will be no confusion ...
sometimes i'd have to wait with them outside until they go ... but hey i find this most effective
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actually - the one of the best and cheapest ways to clean up is a small amount of biological soap powder in warm water. The enzymes dissolve any proteins in urine & faeces and will the clean & neutralise the area excellently
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First time poster and Doberman owner.......

Just picked up a six week old female.

She has been peeing quite a bit.

Took her outside and peed, but then comes back in and pees 4-5 more times in the next hour.


bladder infection? Too much water? Missing Mommy and Litter mates?
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i'd just buy a big bag of Real Great doggy treats. My pup knew that i wanted him to pee outside, but couldnt care less, UNTILL i baught some great dog cookies, different then the standard ones i use to train him, and he went nuts for them. I started going with him every 2 hours (in the beginning every hour) and now i go four times a day, and he does it perfectly in the grass (not on the boardwalk) so he gets his cookie
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First time poster and Doberman owner.......

Just picked up a six week old female.

She has been peeing quite a bit.

Took her outside and peed, but then comes back in and pees 4-5 more times in the next hour.


bladder infection? Too much water? Missing Mommy and Litter mates?
You need to start your own thread for more responses. She is very little and will need to go out a lot. Once an hour just won't get it. At least every 30 mns minimum and probably more. Don't spank her just say "no" loudly and pick her up and take her out, but you have to catch her in the act to even say anything. Also the "no" shouldn't scare her but get her attention. So just loud enough to do that.
Take her out first thing when she wakes up, after meals and before bedtime, plus all the other times she needs to go out. My boy was 9 1/2 weeks old and he had to go out at least every 20 mins forever.
She is really too little to have left her mom, she should still be at the breeder's home.

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At the top of the page they have a search are type in house breaking you will find allot of good information. Also do you go out with the pup each time? do you say go potty or what ever words you want to use for this training just use the same words each time. Do you have the pup on a 6 ft leash so they will go in the same area each time?
Recent Ice Storm here my sisters Boston terrier will not go poo at the hotel they are staying at they drive him to their house so he can poo in his own back yard. ??? Good training as a pup to train to pee & poo on a leash, you never know when it might come in handy in the future on trips, during disasters other unforeseen problems that may come up in a dogs life time.
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everytime I take him outside I say "get busy" till he goes, then lots of good boys when he does and give him a treat for going outside. ,
I LOVE "get busy"! That's so much better (and less embarrassing when the neighbors are out ) than "Go Potty!" LOL

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I'd avoid using paper to train him. We tried that method with our collie Meg when I was a kid and for several months she believed it was her solemn duty to pee on any paper that hit the floor.
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I LOVE "get busy"! That's so much better (and less embarrassing when the neighbors are out ) than "Go Potty!" LOL

I used "go wee-wees" which I think is cute to say to a little pup but I might look a bit weird when I have to say it to a full grown Doberman!

There's a lot of good advice in this thread so I think we've got it pretty much covered!
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Housebreaking your new puppy need not to break you. with patient, diligence and a calm, authoritative manner, you can teach your dog exactly wherehe should eliminate and where he should not.

1. the key to sucess is simple: timing is everthing.
2. take you puppy outside immediatly after eating,playing, or napping. keepingthis rigid schedule will prevent him from making mistakes in the house.

FACTkeep this number in mind: 15 minutes after your puppy eats or plays vigorously, he will need to eleiminate. As he gets older, he will be able to wait longer. An adult dog eleminates three or four times a day and will learn to hold it, within reason.puppies start to learn to controll their bladder and bowel with around 12 weeks

3.some trainers recommend giving your dog a command, like go potty... at the moment your pup is coreectly doing his business outside.

TIP Always feed your and water your puppy at the same time every day.if he eats at regular intervals, he will relieve himself at regular intervals too.

much like a little boy who daces up and down when he has to go, a puppy's behavior will let you know that he has to go too. look for the signs and take him out.

Tip even if you are in a hurry, don't bring the puppy back inside, soon it went. if you do, he will learn that once he went, the fun walk is over and he'll start to "hold it" for longer periods.

5. Mistakes happens. if you catch your puppy eleimnating in the house- and he will- correct him with a firm NO. take him outside for a walk and praise him lavishly when he does his business outside.

Tip if you find that your dog eliminated in the house when you weren't looking. do not punish him. its to late and he wont know, why he gets pusnished.


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good call i hadn't thought of a special potty outside treat. my 3mo is playing poop in the house just to mess with me he totally knows to do it outside but if he's being a jerk her will all of a sudden "forget" how he's supposed to go outside. we go a week and a half with 0 accidents and then i'm 20 mins late from work and he poops in his crate for 3 days. he doesn't even care about it and lays in it... gross little boy. i'm about to head to the store and buy some bribes
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I know you told someone else to start their own post, but i thought I'd chance it and see if anyone can help me out xD. I hope I don't get shouted at!!

I'm adopting a year old Doberman tomorrow (so excited). He is currently at a rescue group, living in kennels. She's not sure if he is house trained or not. She said that he does wait until he's let out to go to the toilet, but she can't say for certain. Is there anything I should look out for and how hard will it be at this age to housebreak him??

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I know you told someone else to start their own post, but i thought I'd chance it and see if anyone can help me out xD. I hope I don't get shouted at!!

I'm adopting a year old Doberman tomorrow (so excited). He is currently at a rescue group, living in kennels. She's not sure if he is house trained or not. She said that he does wait until he's let out to go to the toilet, but she can't say for certain. Is there anything I should look out for and how hard will it be at this age to housebreak him??

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<G> Well, the start of the thread is years old--if that puppy isn't house trained by now it's probably waay too late.

It's actually easier to deal with older puppies and at a year the Dobe you are adopting is really still a puppy. But he's a male and it's a new house so I'd treat him as if he was a very young puppy.

I'd keep him attached to me with a leash in the house and where I went he'd go--that keeps him under your watchful eye and dogs who need to go out typically get antsy--they sniff, circle and if they are housetrained will sometimes try to drag you to a door. I'd start out by taking him out every hour when you first have him home--and in the first 24 hours I'd lengthen that to two or three hour periods during the day. I would crate him at night and if you were doing something so that you couldn't actually watch him I'd crate him then too. Some young males, neutered or not will mark in a strange house--your best bet in avoiding that is to watch him at all times. They get the idea quite quickly.

Literally I'd make sure he was on probation until I was sure that he knew what the house rules were. Much easier if they don't make mistakes than if you have to go through teaching them that they were mistakes and you want a different behavior.

Good luck--enjoy your new addition.
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I'm thinking about getting a Doberman and have found an excellent breeder. I've seen one of her puppies and the dog is beautiful and has a lovely personality.

I am hesitant, though, for a number of reasons. Let me begin by saying as a 13 year old I owned a Great Dane, trained her for the confirmation show ring and showed her in the breed and junior exhibitor. I learned how to post her ears and although it took a long time they finally stood perfectly. I guess what I'm trying to say is I have experience with large breeds and did really well with my Dane who lived to be almost 11 years old. After my divorce I started a career that involved extensive travel. To accommodate my lifestyle I went from a Great Dane to Shih Tzus. I currently have 2 females. They are trained to go in the house on wee wee pads. I only travel occasionally now for my work - about 2 - 5 trips a year. I really would love to own a large dog again because they connect to you differently than toy dogs. Don't get me wrong, I love my Shih Tzus dearly, it's just a different kind of relationship than the one I had with my large breed.
I have two concerns. First, I would not want my Doberman using the wee wee pads. I would train the dog to relieve itself outside. I can't eliminate the wee pads tho because my Shih Tzus would just relieve themselves where the pads once were. I would, of course, take the Shih Tzus out with the Doberman and that would cut down considerably on inside bathroom behavior for them. Do you think it's possible to housebreak the Doberman to the outside under these circumstances? I've read about some of the housebreaking horror stories on this website and it scares me. My Dane was not easy to housebreak and it is not fun, especially when the living space is small (I live in a townhouse)

I'm also wondering if, when I do have to travel, if the Doberman would take to a sitter in the home? I have to bring someone in to stay over anyway because I have to get a house sitter for my 90 year old mom and my Shih Tzus.
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Try tethering? Keeps both of you honest. Worked for me.
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I LOVE "get busy"! That's so much better (and less embarrassing when the neighbors are out ) than "Go Potty!" LOL

That was a funny exchange! My mind goes everywhere with that!

Axel went to the lakehouse with us. When the spouses were out in the cove fishing in the dark, us women were calling the the dogs back in. The boys heard me calling for A-hole when I was merely calling for Axel. LOL Funny how sound travels!

I am still laughing.

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